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So you think that Suffle.com isn't genuine because it was found by someone who worked at FTX? Is that even a valid reason to create scam accusation against a casino? If you have any proof about their scam then show that otherwise creating such topics is only a sign of envy against a platform or against its owner.
I wonder what the OP is accusing Shuffle of there is evidence or some kind of article linking Noah Dummet to FTX?

I think this is just a theory that the OP is doing without any evidence we don't see this as an accusation or any other unrest, so prove it for everyone to know what the OP is talking about.
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So you think that Suffle.com isn't genuine because it was found by someone who worked at FTX? Is that even a valid reason to create scam accusation against a casino? If you have any proof about their scam then show that otherwise creating such topics is only a sign of envy against a platform or against its owner.
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First, let me clarify that my intention is not to confuse or misuse the quoting function.

Regarding the broader issue of whether any company founded or employing someone with a background in a troublesome company should be questioned, it's important to recognize that due diligence is a crucial part of assessing the trustworthiness and integrity of any new venture. While it's true that "shit happens" and not every individual should be held accountable for the actions of their previous employers, in the case of Noah Dummett and Shuffle.com, there are specific reasons for concern.

Noah Dummett was not a mere employee at FTX; he held a significant position that potentially exposed him to the inner workings and strategic decisions of the company. The collapse of FTX was not a simple case of misfortune; it involved complex financial mismanagement and questionable practices that had far-reaching consequences. Understanding Noah's role and influence within FTX is crucial to assessing whether similar practices could be carried over to Shuffle.com.

It's important to note that during the FTX collapse, multiple employees were involved in the company's operations and strategic decisions. While Noah might not have been directly responsible for the downfall, his involvement in a company with such severe financial mismanagement raises valid concerns about his approach to running Shuffle.com. Transparency about his role and actions during his time at FTX can help alleviate some of these concerns and build trust in his new venture.

Furthermore, Noah's involvement with BitMEX, another controversial company in the crypto space, adds another layer of concern. BitMEX faced significant legal challenges, including charges against its founders for violating anti-money laundering laws. While Noah may not have been directly implicated in these issues, his association with multiple companies that have faced serious legal and ethical challenges cannot be overlooked. It raises questions about the practices he may bring to Shuffle.com and whether there is a pattern of involvement in high-risk ventures without adequate oversight and compliance.

Has he been investigated-and-cleared or proven-guilty by any of the investigating bodies who investigate both companies?

Regarding the use of aliases, while it is common in customer service and other industries to use pseudonyms for various reasons, the context here is different. When key personnel involved in financial operations choose to remain anonymous, it raises questions about accountability and trust. Knowing the real identities of those making critical financial decisions is essential to ensure transparency and prevent potential misuse of power.

I understand the suggestion to contact Noah directly or investigate company registrations for real names. However, gaining proper authority to inquire about such details is not always feasible for individual users. The expectation is not for Noah to doxx his staff but to provide a level of transparency that builds trust and confidence in the operations of Shuffle.com.

In conclusion, the scrutiny is not about holding Noah accountable for his past employment at FTX and BitMEX, but about ensuring that the same problematic practices do not carry over to Shuffle.com. Transparency, accountability, and ethical practices are vital for any financial platform, especially in the volatile world of cryptocurrencies. Continuous vigilance and proactive inquiry are necessary to protect users and ensure the integrity of the platform.

May I perhaps propose another way to prove the reputation of Shuffle? By tracking complaints the players of his platform have on this forum and take a good guesstimate from them? I believe, given your extensive research into him and the very thorough and well written posts, you'll find and notice there is an easy way to accomplish this DD of scam accusations against Shuffle.

Oh, still waiting for that accusation for Cam? I believe it's a serious allegation and would like to pursue and/or get it cleared.
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
While it's true that Noah has been open about his past employment, the concern is not just about his previous jobs but the potential replication of problematic operational practices. Transparency and accountability are crucial, especially given the legal issues surrounding FTX. Comparing this situation to BitMEX doesn't negate the need for scrutiny. It's not about doing a better job than the FBI, but about continuous vigilance and ensuring ongoing transparency in Shuffle.com's operations to prevent similar issues.

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
While privacy is important, the use of aliases by key personnel in a financial service raises red flags. Transparency about the identities of key decision-makers is critical to building trust, especially in the wake of major financial collapses like FTX. Anonymity can be exploited for malicious purposes, and it's in the community's interest to know who is handling their funds.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Operational practices are fundamental to the integrity of any financial platform. If Shuffle.com is using similar systems to those that failed at FTX, it poses a significant risk. Accessing this data might be challenging, but it's essential for stakeholders to push for audits and transparency to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated. Bonus systems and user fund management are critical components that can impact the overall stability and fairness of the platform.

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Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders
Stakeholders include anyone who has a vested interest in the platform, including users and token holders. Demanding transparency is not only reasonable but necessary to ensure the integrity of the platform. While privacy is important, it should not come at the expense of accountability. Balancing privacy with transparency is key, and there are ways to protect sensitive information while still providing the community with the assurances they need about the platform's operations and the people running it.


OP, please learn to quote properly, or drop the act of not knowing how to quote, it's confusing. I somehow have a feeling that this is a disposable account and you have an existing account here.

Addressing your post as a whole, by the same logic, any company which founded by and/or employ someone who has previously worked in a troublesome company, are worth questioning. Here's a fun fact of life, in case you're lucky and privileged enough to never experienced it first hand: shit happens and mother nature is a bitch.

I don't think it's fair to hold Noah for something that happened on his past employment, is it? Especially as he contributes nothing to the downfall of it?

And anonymous staff, I'll repeat what I said on previous post, I suggest you to PM Noah and see if he'll be kind enough to tell you who work on what and all their background [this is a sarcasm]. Otherwise, gain proper authority and inquire an investigation to their company registration, I believe some name are listed there, real name.

Oh, further, about key personnel in financial services using alias... how sure are you when you call your bank and a customer service answered your call and introduce herself as "Samantha", that's her real name? Or when their financial or loan staff do a telemarketing and offers a loan, the "hi, this is Robert from Barclays" is a real Robert instead of a Nathan Edwardson by birth?

I want to add another issue regarding Shuffle.com, specifically related to Cam, one of the key figures operating under an alias. It's come to light that Cam's handling of people, particularly those struggling with gambling addiction, is not only disrespectful but downright harmful.

[...]

Previously, all of your post is about a discussion and speculation, of which I address with similar manner, but with this above... I'll appreciate a concrete evidence to back up this claim, if you have any. This is a serious allegation, and last I check, this thread is on scam accusations board. We run on evidence here.


First, let me clarify that my intention is not to confuse or misuse the quoting function.

Regarding the broader issue of whether any company founded or employing someone with a background in a troublesome company should be questioned, it's important to recognize that due diligence is a crucial part of assessing the trustworthiness and integrity of any new venture. While it's true that "shit happens" and not every individual should be held accountable for the actions of their previous employers, in the case of Noah Dummett and Shuffle.com, there are specific reasons for concern.

Noah Dummett was not a mere employee at FTX; he held a significant position that potentially exposed him to the inner workings and strategic decisions of the company. The collapse of FTX was not a simple case of misfortune; it involved complex financial mismanagement and questionable practices that had far-reaching consequences. Understanding Noah's role and influence within FTX is crucial to assessing whether similar practices could be carried over to Shuffle.com.

It's important to note that during the FTX collapse, multiple employees were involved in the company's operations and strategic decisions. While Noah might not have been directly responsible for the downfall, his involvement in a company with such severe financial mismanagement raises valid concerns about his approach to running Shuffle.com. Transparency about his role and actions during his time at FTX can help alleviate some of these concerns and build trust in his new venture.

Furthermore, Noah's involvement with BitMEX, another controversial company in the crypto space, adds another layer of concern. BitMEX faced significant legal challenges, including charges against its founders for violating anti-money laundering laws. While Noah may not have been directly implicated in these issues, his association with multiple companies that have faced serious legal and ethical challenges cannot be overlooked. It raises questions about the practices he may bring to Shuffle.com and whether there is a pattern of involvement in high-risk ventures without adequate oversight and compliance.

Regarding the use of aliases, while it is common in customer service and other industries to use pseudonyms for various reasons, the context here is different. When key personnel involved in financial operations choose to remain anonymous, it raises questions about accountability and trust. Knowing the real identities of those making critical financial decisions is essential to ensure transparency and prevent potential misuse of power.

I understand the suggestion to contact Noah directly or investigate company registrations for real names. However, gaining proper authority to inquire about such details is not always feasible for individual users. The expectation is not for Noah to doxx his staff but to provide a level of transparency that builds trust and confidence in the operations of Shuffle.com.

In conclusion, the scrutiny is not about holding Noah accountable for his past employment at FTX and BitMEX, but about ensuring that the same problematic practices do not carry over to Shuffle.com. Transparency, accountability, and ethical practices are vital for any financial platform, especially in the volatile world of cryptocurrencies. Continuous vigilance and proactive inquiry are necessary to protect users and ensure the integrity of the platform.
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
While it's true that Noah has been open about his past employment, the concern is not just about his previous jobs but the potential replication of problematic operational practices. Transparency and accountability are crucial, especially given the legal issues surrounding FTX. Comparing this situation to BitMEX doesn't negate the need for scrutiny. It's not about doing a better job than the FBI, but about continuous vigilance and ensuring ongoing transparency in Shuffle.com's operations to prevent similar issues.

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
While privacy is important, the use of aliases by key personnel in a financial service raises red flags. Transparency about the identities of key decision-makers is critical to building trust, especially in the wake of major financial collapses like FTX. Anonymity can be exploited for malicious purposes, and it's in the community's interest to know who is handling their funds.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Operational practices are fundamental to the integrity of any financial platform. If Shuffle.com is using similar systems to those that failed at FTX, it poses a significant risk. Accessing this data might be challenging, but it's essential for stakeholders to push for audits and transparency to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated. Bonus systems and user fund management are critical components that can impact the overall stability and fairness of the platform.

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Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders
Stakeholders include anyone who has a vested interest in the platform, including users and token holders. Demanding transparency is not only reasonable but necessary to ensure the integrity of the platform. While privacy is important, it should not come at the expense of accountability. Balancing privacy with transparency is key, and there are ways to protect sensitive information while still providing the community with the assurances they need about the platform's operations and the people running it.


OP, please learn to quote properly, or drop the act of not knowing how to quote, it's confusing. I somehow have a feeling that this is a disposable account and you have an existing account here.

Addressing your post as a whole, by the same logic, any company which founded by and/or employ someone who has previously worked in a troublesome company, are worth questioning. Here's a fun fact of life, in case you're lucky and privileged enough to never experienced it first hand: shit happens and mother nature is a bitch.

I don't think it's fair to hold Noah for something that happened on his past employment, is it? Especially as he contributes nothing to the downfall of it?

And anonymous staff, I'll repeat what I said on previous post, I suggest you to PM Noah and see if he'll be kind enough to tell you who work on what and all their background [this is a sarcasm]. Otherwise, gain proper authority and inquire an investigation to their company registration, I believe some name are listed there, real name.

Oh, further, about key personnel in financial services using alias... how sure are you when you call your bank and a customer service answered your call and introduce herself as "Samantha", that's her real name? Or when their financial or loan staff do a telemarketing and offers a loan, the "hi, this is Robert from Barclays" is a real Robert instead of a Nathan Edwardson by birth?

I want to add another issue regarding Shuffle.com, specifically related to Cam, one of the key figures operating under an alias. It's come to light that Cam's handling of people, particularly those struggling with gambling addiction, is not only disrespectful but downright harmful.

[...]

Previously, all of your post is about a discussion and speculation, of which I address with similar manner, but with this above... I'll appreciate a concrete evidence to back up this claim, if you have any. This is a serious allegation, and last I check, this thread is on scam accusations board. We run on evidence here.
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Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
While it's true that Noah has been open about his past employment, the concern is not just about his previous jobs but the potential replication of problematic operational practices. Transparency and accountability are crucial, especially given the legal issues surrounding FTX. Comparing this situation to BitMEX doesn't negate the need for scrutiny. It's not about doing a better job than the FBI, but about continuous vigilance and ensuring ongoing transparency in Shuffle.com's operations to prevent similar issues.

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
While privacy is important, the use of aliases by key personnel in a financial service raises red flags. Transparency about the identities of key decision-makers is critical to building trust, especially in the wake of major financial collapses like FTX. Anonymity can be exploited for malicious purposes, and it's in the community's interest to know who is handling their funds.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Operational practices are fundamental to the integrity of any financial platform. If Shuffle.com is using similar systems to those that failed at FTX, it poses a significant risk. Accessing this data might be challenging, but it's essential for stakeholders to push for audits and transparency to ensure that the same mistakes are not repeated. Bonus systems and user fund management are critical components that can impact the overall stability and fairness of the platform.

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Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders
Stakeholders include anyone who has a vested interest in the platform, including users and token holders. Demanding transparency is not only reasonable but necessary to ensure the integrity of the platform. While privacy is important, it should not come at the expense of accountability. Balancing privacy with transparency is key, and there are ways to protect sensitive information while still providing the community with the assurances they need about the platform's operations and the people running it.
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Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)
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1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
1: Noah have been open about this, and spoken about this in his interviews. There's no other "connection" then working for them. And he has worked for bitmex as well, or is that less shady? Their CEO got jailed too. Do you really think that FTX employees haven't already been investigated during the aftermath of the fall? How are we going to do a better job then FBI on this?

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2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
Shuffle a private company, and i am pretty sure that they don't need to give names of their employees for the public. It's a matter of security and privacy. You might be able to dig them from some public payroll record, but i don't know how that works in overseas.

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3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
Not sure how this would even matter, or how would we get access to this data. And i don't think that any "bonus systems" had anything to do with the fall of ftx.

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Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders
What do you mean by stakeholders? Just because we play in there or own $shfl, we aren't stakeholders. But by all means, we can demand a lot and transparency never hurt anyone. Just keep in mind that we also need to accept some limits on that, because with companies that are responsible for god knows how big amounts of customers crypto, there has to be ton of privacy and that means less ways to have an access to their "key" employees by social engineering.
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I am not sure how deep should previous employment record affect one's future career. Is he heavily involved and one of the key person in the decision making behind FTX downfall?

Regarding alias [anonymous key personnel], I am somewhat sure that username like "bob" or "alice" from many platform is not their real name either. Representative of casinos on this forum uses "aliases", they operate under the username of the casino they work for [BC.Game Support, FortuneJack, Sportsbet.io, Rollbit Razer], and even when I get in touch personally with them and they signed their correspondencies with me with a name, I can't be 100% sure that's their real name or just a persona they choose to be used on their career, just like I am extremely sure the name "holydarkness" is not the real name of someone I personally and intimately know.

If you need to know the real identity of people behind shuffle, I think you can inquire to ndumm, see if he'll be a bit lenient and will doxx his own staff for you. Or perhaps do some digging and look into their company registries, I believe some real name will be listed there.

So far, though, I rely on the reputation of each and every casino to determine whether a casino should be approached with a degree of caution or not, and Shuffle is yet to show any yellow flag.
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Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)

Hello everyone,

I wanted to bring up some serious concerns regarding Shuffle.com, a new platform launched by Noah Dummett, a former employee of FTX. Here are some key points that need your attention, and I’m curious if anyone else has noticed these issues or has additional information:

Background Concerns

1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
   - Noah Dummett, who previously worked at FTX, is behind the launch of Shuffle.com. Given the collapse of FTX and the legal issues surrounding its operations, does anyone else feel uneasy about the integrity and transparency of Shuffle.com?

2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
   - There are key individuals at Shuffle.com using aliases, such as "Cam" and "Brett." It’s been suggested that "Cam" knows Noah from earlier days, and both he and "Brett" are operating under false names. Has anyone else encountered these individuals or have any insight into why they might be using pseudonyms?

3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
   - Given Noah’s history with FTX, it’s crucial to consider whether Shuffle.com might be employing similar operational strategies that led to FTX’s downfall. Has anyone observed any concerning patterns in Shuffle.com's financial transactions, bonus systems, or user fund management practices?

Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders

1. Demand Transparency:
   - Should we as a community demand full transparency about the identities of the key personnel at Shuffle.com and their roles within the company?

2. Investigate Transaction Patterns:
   - Are there any blockchain experts here who can help analyze Shuffle.com's transaction history for unusual or suspicious activities, such as repeated small transfers or large sums being moved without clear purpose?

3. Cross-Reference Known Issues:
   - Can anyone help cross-reference Shuffle.com's practices and personnel with known issues and individuals from the FTX collapse? Reviewing public records, legal filings, and other sources of information could be crucial.

4. Engage Regulatory Bodies:
   - Should we report any suspicious activities or findings to relevant regulatory authorities to ensure a thorough investigation is conducted?

5. Community Vigilance:
   - Is everyone willing to stay vigilant and share any suspicious findings with the community? Collective awareness and action can help prevent potential fraud and protect users.

Conclusion

Given the questionable background of its founder, Noah Dummett, and the use of aliases by key personnel, there are serious concerns about the legitimacy of Shuffle.com. It is crucial for the community and stakeholders to demand transparency, thoroughly investigate transaction patterns, and report any suspicious activities to regulatory bodies.

If anyone has additional information or insights into the operations of Shuffle.com, please share them here. Ensuring transparency and protecting users is our collective responsibility.

Thank you!
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