Topic: Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by FTX Employee) - page 3. (Read 863 times)

Last I check, I shouldn't have any personal interest in defending Shuffle, since I am not involved with them in any degree imaginable. If you have that strong feeling, it's in your head. But let's address that instead of sweeping them under the rug, which part of my post makes you feel such strong feeling?

Moving to cam, this serves as a comment to your last post above about Cam too, I believe you're the one who initially alleges that their staff, pseudonamed Cam, has a serious issue in addressing gambling addiction, perhaps amongst other trait. So, I believe it should be you that proves the accusation is not baseless and completely founded instead of asking me [or anyone else] to prove that your statement is invalid? Do I understand things backwardly?

It's good to hear that Noah took steps to maintain integrity on review platforms. However, it's essential to look at the broader context of his previous high-ranking position and the potential influence of his decisions at FTX. While he may have had positive interactions, it doesn't entirely mitigate the need for transparency and accountability, especially given the significant impact of FTX's collapse.

Regarding the complexity of FTX's operations and the many employees involved, I fully acknowledge that not everyone was part of the fraudulent activities. My concern is focused on ensuring that lessons have been learned and that such practices are not carried over to Shuffle.com. Noah's high position at FTX puts him in a place where his actions and decisions carry significant weight, and it is reasonable to seek assurance that Shuffle.com operates with the highest ethical standards.

It's not about making broad statements but rather about safeguarding the community and ensuring that Shuffle.com is transparent and accountable in its operations. Trust is built through continuous vigilance and a commitment to ethical practices, which should be evident in every aspect of the platform.

Moreover, even if Noah is innocent, he can thank Cam for these allegations. Cam's behavior and apparent disregard for people, particularly those struggling with gambling addiction, have brought these serious concerns to light. His actions and attitude reflect poorly on the entire organization and highlight the need for stringent ethical standards and accountability.

If Noah and the Shuffle team are genuinely committed to this, further transparency and clear communication about their practices and the measures they take to prevent any unethical behavior would be greatly appreciated by the community.

Thank you for your response. I appreciate your willingness to engage in this discussion and your dedication to transparency. However, I have a few points and concerns that I feel need to be addressed:

Past Employment and Current Practices:

While I acknowledge the openness about your work history at BitMEX and FTX, the concern isn't just about past affiliations. It's about ensuring that past mistakes, particularly those that led to significant collapses like FTX, are not repeated. It's encouraging that you’ve learned valuable lessons, but the community needs concrete assurances that Shuffle.com operates differently. His history can either be a testament to your growth or a shadow if not addressed transparently and proactively.

Transparency of the Team:

It’s commendable that Shuffle aims to be one of the most transparent teams in the crypto casino space. However, the issue isn't just about visibility but about accountability and ethical practices. While some team members might prefer privacy, the use of aliases, particularly by key personnel like Cam, raises concerns. Transparency isn’t just about being seen; it’s about being accountable. There are indeed other crypto casinos with public-facing teams, and it’s vital for Shuffle to meet and exceed these standards to build trust.

Operational Integrity:

The suggestion of fraudulent operations is serious, and I understand the need for substantial evidence before making such claims. However, community concerns about ethical practices, particularly regarding how Cam handles issues related to addiction, are significant. The perception that Cam appears to enjoy others' suffering is alarming and warrants a thorough investigation and response from the team.

Community and Ethical Concerns:

I am indeed concerned about the well-being of the community and the ethical operation of platforms within the crypto space. My goal isn't to smear Shuffle's name but to ensure that platforms like Shuffle are held to the highest standards. Addressing these concerns head-on, with transparency and accountability, is crucial for building trust and ensuring that Shuffle.com remains a reputable and ethical player in the industry.

Additionally, considering the many opportunities within the crypto space, it's concerning why Shuffle would choose to operate in one of the most contentious and least regulated areas. This choice inherently brings additional scrutiny and requires an even greater commitment to transparency and ethical practices.

I hope these points clarify my position and the concerns raised. Ensuring the integrity and ethical operation of Shuffle.com is in everyone's best interest, and I appreciate your efforts towards this goal.

I once offered tips to people for posting reviews on TrustPilot, and Noah messaged me, warning that I would be banned if I continued.

Noah is an honest person.

Regarding FTX, remember that it had hundreds of employees. Please consider the complexity before making broad statements.

Hey, I can tell you put some time into writing this so I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you're doing this out of concern for the community and not because you're trying to throw mud on Shuffle's name.

1. As a few people have already mentioned, I am very public about working at both BitMEX and FTX. I'm proud of what I accomplished there, and anyone who interacted with me while I was there should be able to give you a good character reference if you're interested in it. I left in mid-2021, FTX went down in November of 2022; if you're discounting everyone who worked there at any point of FTX's history, you're discounting hundreds of great people who had nothing to do with the fraudulent actions which led to the collapse. To suggest that I'm running Shuffle in the same way that FTX was run is quite disrespectful; at FTX I learnt a lot about how to build a product, and a lot about how not to run a company.

2. Shuffle is one of the most transparent teams in the crypto casino space. You can do a quick search and find a lot of background on me, and a very large portion of our management team. We do livestreams every week with different members of our team, and most team members have their full name as their usernames on various social media platforms - we make no effort to hide ourselves because we have nothing to hide. Of course, there are risks and safety concerns to doing this, and I respect that not all members of the team are as keen as I to be public-facing. This is the case with plenty of companies in finance, crypto, and wagering. A question to you; can you name 3 crypto casinos that have a more public team than ours?

3. If you have any instances of this please let me know, but it's in quite bad faith to make a suggestion that we're operating fraudulently with nothing to point to that would suggest that.

All of your suggestions are good suggestions, and you should be doing this to anyone you trust your money with, including all other crypto casinos. If you have concerns about anyone's responsible gambling commitments, I would encourage you to follow that up, because it's a serious matter. Again, I'm hopeful that you are a genuinely concerned observer and not someone who may be trying to smear the Shuffle brand - hopefully this helps clarify for you.

I wonder what the OP is accusing Shuffle of there is evidence or some kind of article linking Noah Dummet to FTX?

I think this is just a theory that the OP is doing without any evidence we don't see this as an accusation or any other unrest, so prove it for everyone to know what the OP is talking about.

So you think that Suffle.com isn't genuine because it was found by someone who worked at FTX? Is that even a valid reason to create scam accusation against a casino? If you have any proof about their scam then show that otherwise creating such topics is only a sign of envy against a platform or against its owner.

Has he been investigated-and-cleared or proven-guilty by any of the investigating bodies who investigate both companies?


May I perhaps propose another way to prove the reputation of Shuffle? By tracking complaints the players of his platform have on this forum and take a good guesstimate from them? I believe, given your extensive research into him and the very thorough and well written posts, you'll find and notice there is an easy way to accomplish this DD of scam accusations against Shuffle.

Oh, still waiting for that accusation for Cam? I believe it's a serious allegation and would like to pursue and/or get it cleared.

First, let me clarify that my intention is not to confuse or misuse the quoting function.

Regarding the broader issue of whether any company founded or employing someone with a background in a troublesome company should be questioned, it's important to recognize that due diligence is a crucial part of assessing the trustworthiness and integrity of any new venture. While it's true that "shit happens" and not every individual should be held accountable for the actions of their previous employers, in the case of Noah Dummett and Shuffle.com, there are specific reasons for concern.

Noah Dummett was not a mere employee at FTX; he held a significant position that potentially exposed him to the inner workings and strategic decisions of the company. The collapse of FTX was not a simple case of misfortune; it involved complex financial mismanagement and questionable practices that had far-reaching consequences. Understanding Noah's role and influence within FTX is crucial to assessing whether similar practices could be carried over to Shuffle.com.

It's important to note that during the FTX collapse, multiple employees were involved in the company's operations and strategic decisions. While Noah might not have been directly responsible for the downfall, his involvement in a company with such severe financial mismanagement raises valid concerns about his approach to running Shuffle.com. Transparency about his role and actions during his time at FTX can help alleviate some of these concerns and build trust in his new venture.

Furthermore, Noah's involvement with BitMEX, another controversial company in the crypto space, adds another layer of concern. BitMEX faced significant legal challenges, including charges against its founders for violating anti-money laundering laws. While Noah may not have been directly implicated in these issues, his association with multiple companies that have faced serious legal and ethical challenges cannot be overlooked. It raises questions about the practices he may bring to Shuffle.com and whether there is a pattern of involvement in high-risk ventures without adequate oversight and compliance.

Regarding the use of aliases, while it is common in customer service and other industries to use pseudonyms for various reasons, the context here is different. When key personnel involved in financial operations choose to remain anonymous, it raises questions about accountability and trust. Knowing the real identities of those making critical financial decisions is essential to ensure transparency and prevent potential misuse of power.

I understand the suggestion to contact Noah directly or investigate company registrations for real names. However, gaining proper authority to inquire about such details is not always feasible for individual users. The expectation is not for Noah to doxx his staff but to provide a level of transparency that builds trust and confidence in the operations of Shuffle.com.

In conclusion, the scrutiny is not about holding Noah accountable for his past employment at FTX and BitMEX, but about ensuring that the same problematic practices do not carry over to Shuffle.com. Transparency, accountability, and ethical practices are vital for any financial platform, especially in the volatile world of cryptocurrencies. Continuous vigilance and proactive inquiry are necessary to protect users and ensure the integrity of the platform.

OP, please learn to quote properly, or drop the act of not knowing how to quote, it's confusing. I somehow have a feeling that this is a disposable account and you have an existing account here.

Addressing your post as a whole, by the same logic, any company which founded by and/or employ someone who has previously worked in a troublesome company, are worth questioning. Here's a fun fact of life, in case you're lucky and privileged enough to never experienced it first hand: shit happens and mother nature is a bitch.

I don't think it's fair to hold Noah for something that happened on his past employment, is it? Especially as he contributes nothing to the downfall of it?

And anonymous staff, I'll repeat what I said on previous post, I suggest you to PM Noah and see if he'll be kind enough to tell you who work on what and all their background [this is a sarcasm]. Otherwise, gain proper authority and inquire an investigation to their company registration, I believe some name are listed there, real name.

Oh, further, about key personnel in financial services using alias... how sure are you when you call your bank and a customer service answered your call and introduce herself as "Samantha", that's her real name? Or when their financial or loan staff do a telemarketing and offers a loan, the "hi, this is Robert from Barclays" is a real Robert instead of a Nathan Edwardson by birth?


Previously, all of your post is about a discussion and speculation, of which I address with similar manner, but with this above... I'll appreciate a concrete evidence to back up this claim, if you have any. This is a serious allegation, and last I check, this thread is on scam accusations board. We run on evidence here.

1: Noah have been open about this, and spoken about this in his interviews. There's no other "connection" then working for them. And he has worked for bitmex as well, or is that less shady? Their CEO got jailed too. Do you really think that FTX employees haven't already been investigated during the aftermath of the fall? How are we going to do a better job then FBI on this?

Shuffle a private company, and i am pretty sure that they don't need to give names of their employees for the public. It's a matter of security and privacy. You might be able to dig them from some public payroll record, but i don't know how that works in overseas.

Not sure how this would even matter, or how would we get access to this data. And i don't think that any "bonus systems" had anything to do with the fall of ftx.

What do you mean by stakeholders? Just because we play in there or own $shfl, we aren't stakeholders. But by all means, we can demand a lot and transparency never hurt anyone. Just keep in mind that we also need to accept some limits on that, because with companies that are responsible for god knows how big amounts of customers crypto, there has to be ton of privacy and that means less ways to have an access to their "key" employees by social engineering.

I am not sure how deep should previous employment record affect one's future career. Is he heavily involved and one of the key person in the decision making behind FTX downfall?

Regarding alias [anonymous key personnel], I am somewhat sure that username like "bob" or "alice" from many platform is not their real name either. Representative of casinos on this forum uses "aliases", they operate under the username of the casino they work for [BC.Game Support, FortuneJack, Sportsbet.io, Rollbit Razer], and even when I get in touch personally with them and they signed their correspondencies with me with a name, I can't be 100% sure that's their real name or just a persona they choose to be used on their career, just like I am extremely sure the name "holydarkness" is not the real name of someone I personally and intimately know.

If you need to know the real identity of people behind shuffle, I think you can inquire to ndumm, see if he'll be a bit lenient and will doxx his own staff for you. Or perhaps do some digging and look into their company registries, I believe some real name will be listed there.

So far, though, I rely on the reputation of each and every casino to determine whether a casino should be approached with a degree of caution or not, and Shuffle is yet to show any yellow flag.

Serious Questions About Shuffle.com (Launched by Former FTX Employee)

Hello everyone,

I wanted to bring up some serious concerns regarding Shuffle.com, a new platform launched by Noah Dummett, a former employee of FTX. Here are some key points that need your attention, and I’m curious if anyone else has noticed these issues or has additional information:

Background Concerns

1. Noah Dummett's FTX Connection:
   - Noah Dummett, who previously worked at FTX, is behind the launch of Shuffle.com. Given the collapse of FTX and the legal issues surrounding its operations, does anyone else feel uneasy about the integrity and transparency of Shuffle.com?

2. Anonymous Key Personnel:
   - There are key individuals at Shuffle.com using aliases, such as "Cam" and "Brett." It’s been suggested that "Cam" knows Noah from earlier days, and both he and "Brett" are operating under false names. Has anyone else encountered these individuals or have any insight into why they might be using pseudonyms?

3. Potential Operational Similarities to FTX:
   - Given Noah’s history with FTX, it’s crucial to consider whether Shuffle.com might be employing similar operational strategies that led to FTX’s downfall. Has anyone observed any concerning patterns in Shuffle.com's financial transactions, bonus systems, or user fund management practices?

Immediate Actions for Community and Stakeholders

1. Demand Transparency:
   - Should we as a community demand full transparency about the identities of the key personnel at Shuffle.com and their roles within the company?

2. Investigate Transaction Patterns:
   - Are there any blockchain experts here who can help analyze Shuffle.com's transaction history for unusual or suspicious activities, such as repeated small transfers or large sums being moved without clear purpose?

3. Cross-Reference Known Issues:
   - Can anyone help cross-reference Shuffle.com's practices and personnel with known issues and individuals from the FTX collapse? Reviewing public records, legal filings, and other sources of information could be crucial.

4. Engage Regulatory Bodies:
   - Should we report any suspicious activities or findings to relevant regulatory authorities to ensure a thorough investigation is conducted?

5. Community Vigilance:
   - Is everyone willing to stay vigilant and share any suspicious findings with the community? Collective awareness and action can help prevent potential fraud and protect users.

Conclusion

Given the questionable background of its founder, Noah Dummett, and the use of aliases by key personnel, there are serious concerns about the legitimacy of Shuffle.com. It is crucial for the community and stakeholders to demand transparency, thoroughly investigate transaction patterns, and report any suspicious activities to regulatory bodies.

If anyone has additional information or insights into the operations of Shuffle.com, please share them here. Ensuring transparency and protecting users is our collective responsibility.

Thank you!