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Topic: Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! - page 22. (Read 274841 times)

legendary
Activity: 1386
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Ganja <3
guys, I am very worried about one question, since I'm just starting to use gambling.  I'm interested in how dangerous bots can be if you use them to use round sums for gambling?  I believe that by controlling the game personally, you control your expenses.
very dangerous if your start bet is to high or your amount of coins to low Wink there are many threads here or at google about different strategies.

The only strategy that can win big or lose big is Martingale (other strategies IMO can only help you lose slower), within Martingale find a good combination of odd/win chance and multiplier (not too aggressive) after each lose is the way to go. Best setup for you is use Seuntjie's bot, turn of chart, play with its simulation mode carefully (at least 50 millions simulated bets) to see how it going, if you can win simulated mode 90% of the time then it time to go for real coin.

@Spaffin: If you don't mind getting alot of reward for wagering, among 1% house edge casinos, Bitdice.me site IMO is the best choice since it have two major components that can be treated as "fair" to gamblers: speed and minimum bet of 1 satoshi. Don't go for any site that offer too much but constrained in minimum bet (or speed limit on low stake bets) regardless of how low its house edge is. i.e: chance of lose big on 1% edge site with minimum bet of 10000 satoshi is much more (at least few times x3, x4, x5, ....) even bigger than 5% edge site with minimum bet of 1 satoshi. Ignore any excuse of prioritize bigger bets or remove dust bets, these are common excuses of most of the casinos out there, the real reason is: to make you tend to become impatient faster thus play bigger...and lose faster, they ignore the fact that the average stake size per bet is much much more than 1 satoshi due to the nature of Martingale.

perfect said Wink most sites have to low bet speed and to high min start bet thats why u get easy busted with martingale. bitdice have high speed + low bet amount = doubled my coins in 1 week Tongue
jr. member
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guys, I am very worried about one question, since I'm just starting to use gambling.  I'm interested in how dangerous bots can be if you use them to use round sums for gambling?  I believe that by controlling the game personally, you control your expenses.
very dangerous if your start bet is to high or your amount of coins to low Wink there are many threads here or at google about different strategies.

The only strategy that can win big or lose big is Martingale (other strategies IMO can only help you lose slower), within Martingale find a good combination of odd/win chance and multiplier (not too aggressive) after each lose is the way to go. Best setup for you is use Seuntjie's bot, turn of chart, play with its simulation mode carefully (at least 50 millions simulated bets) to see how it going, if you can win simulated mode 90% of the time then it time to go for real coin.

@Spaffin: If you don't mind getting alot of reward for wagering, among 1% house edge casinos, Bitdice.me site IMO is the best choice since it have two major components that can be treated as "fair" to gamblers: speed and minimum bet of 1 satoshi. Don't go for any site that offer too much but constrained in minimum bet (or speed limit on low stake bets) regardless of how low its house edge is. i.e: chance of lose big on 1% edge site with minimum bet of 10000 satoshi is much more (at least few times x3, x4, x5, ....) even bigger than 5% edge site with minimum bet of 1 satoshi. Ignore any excuse of prioritize bigger bets or remove dust bets, these are common excuses of most of the casinos out there, the real reason is: to make you tend to become impatient faster thus play bigger...and lose faster, they ignore the fact that the average stake size per bet is much much more than 1 satoshi due to the nature of Martingale.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1001
Ganja <3
guys, I am very worried about one question, since I'm just starting to use gambling.  I'm interested in how dangerous bots can be if you use them to use round sums for gambling?  I believe that by controlling the game personally, you control your expenses.
very dangerous if your start bet is to high or your amount of coins to low Wink there are many threads here or at google about different strategies.
full member
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guys, I am very worried about one question, since I'm just starting to use gambling.  I'm interested in how dangerous bots can be if you use them to use round sums for gambling?  I believe that by controlling the game personally, you control your expenses.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1001
Ganja <3
i dont know what dice site you are using. try bitdice i have there 10-11 bets/second with this bot Wink

Bitdice is one of them and yes its 10-11 bets/second but lasting not too long, they are upgrading/ transition to new code, hope it is resolved by then. I see that you are in profit, I guess one of the winning strategy on your side there. Mine still going well after 18mil bets but don't have much budget to risk on thus going slow and steady, hope to reach 50 mil bets mark without bursting.



patience is different from being lazy and busy  . bots like this are only good for those lazy person and also to those who are busy and dont have the time to gamble  . 

@HCP  , bots are not designed to give you a magic to start  winning  . you can still be able to loose but it saves your hassel for playing the game and most importantly its not a time waster once you set up and run the bot to play the game  .  lastly you dont need to run the bot for a month in order to see resuts  .  its only up to you if what time/date you prefer to stop  .

Bots like this or any custom bot will help in favour of player rather than built-in one. i.e: completely random of choosing high or low to bet (rather than single side or zigzag), modified martingale increase, calculate (or simulate) in advance how much is needed for a specific losing streak, etc...

Bot running with a good strategy can help us survive long enough to enjoy the game. Lazy or no time are one of the reasons, for my specific reason it is to play as long as possible in which every morning wake up, I see it is still running and gaining thus satisfy the purpose of gambling.

oh ok great Cheesy yeah im now with 3,2 million bets still no bust with first 49.5% now with 88.3929% chance  Cool its right now a bit slower 8-10 bets/sec. i would be more in profit but i bustet 40-50k doge in blackjack XD
jr. member
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i dont know what dice site you are using. try bitdice i have there 10-11 bets/second with this bot Wink

Bitdice is one of them and yes its 10-11 bets/second but lasting not too long, they are upgrading/ transition to new code, hope it is resolved by then. I see that you are in profit, I guess one of the winning strategy on your side there. Mine still going well after 18mil bets but don't have much budget to risk on thus going slow and steady, hope to reach 50 mil bets mark without bursting.



patience is different from being lazy and busy  . bots like this are only good for those lazy person and also to those who are busy and dont have the time to gamble  . 

@HCP  , bots are not designed to give you a magic to start  winning  . you can still be able to loose but it saves your hassel for playing the game and most importantly its not a time waster once you set up and run the bot to play the game  .  lastly you dont need to run the bot for a month in order to see resuts  .  its only up to you if what time/date you prefer to stop  .

Bots like this or any custom bot will help in favour of player rather than built-in one. i.e: completely random of choosing high or low to bet (rather than single side or zigzag), modified martingale increase, calculate (or simulate) in advance how much is needed for a specific losing streak, etc...

Bot running with a good strategy can help us survive long enough to enjoy the game. Lazy or no time are one of the reasons, for my specific reason it is to play as long as possible in which every morning wake up, I see it is still running and gaining thus satisfy the purpose of gambling.
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1001
Ganja <3
I guess some people just like to reinvent wheels Wink

But full credit to them for going to the effort of creating their own setup... Still seems like a lot of work, for what will still likely result in a loss of money... and time Tongue Not sure I'd have the patience to have a bot running for a month! Shocked Shocked Shocked

That why there is a need of a bot to run 24/7, the patient thing is resolved by bot which it do it job while we are doing other things or sleep. Set and forget is the strategy to eliminate "patience" issue.
Regarding to reinvent wheels, not sure of this statement but there is working strategy from other guy on freebitco.in and I happened to believe it to follow, but i don't have enough budget to play on that site thus creating my own setup on another site with alt coins and it still work exactly the same. There is a burst chance but still wait for it to come, 2 months 24/7 with a speed of 4 bets/second and counting/waiting for the event which 99.99% percent of people are saying "you will lose in the end".

i dont know what dice site you are using. try bitdice i have there 10-11 bets/second with this bot Wink
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full credit to them for going to the effort of creating their own setup... Still seems like a lot of work, for what will still likely result in a loss of money... and time Tongue Not sure I'd have the patience to have a bot running for a month! Shocked Shocked Shocked

That why there is a need of a bot to run 24/7, the patient thing is resolved by bot which it do it job while we are doing other things or sleep. Set and forget is the strategy to eliminate "patience" issue.

patience is different from being lazy and busy  . bots like this are only good for those lazy person and also to those who are busy and dont have the time to gamble  . 

@HCP  , bots are not designed to give you a magic to start  winning  . you can still be able to loose but it saves your hassel for playing the game and most importantly its not a time waster once you set up and run the bot to play the game  .  lastly you dont need to run the bot for a month in order to see resuts  .  its only up to you if what time/date you prefer to stop  .
jr. member
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I guess some people just like to reinvent wheels Wink

But full credit to them for going to the effort of creating their own setup... Still seems like a lot of work, for what will still likely result in a loss of money... and time Tongue Not sure I'd have the patience to have a bot running for a month! Shocked Shocked Shocked

That why there is a need of a bot to run 24/7, the patient thing is resolved by bot which it do it job while we are doing other things or sleep. Set and forget is the strategy to eliminate "patience" issue.
Regarding to reinvent wheels, not sure of this statement but there is working strategy from other guy on freebitco.in and I happened to believe it to follow, but i don't have enough budget to play on that site thus creating my own setup on another site with alt coins and it still work exactly the same. There is a burst chance but still wait for it to come, 2 months 24/7 with a speed of 4 bets/second and counting/waiting for the event which 99.99% percent of people are saying "you will lose in the end".
HCP
legendary
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I guess some people just like to reinvent wheels Wink

But full credit to them for going to the effort of creating their own setup... Still seems like a lot of work, for what will still likely result in a loss of money... and time Tongue Not sure I'd have the patience to have a bot running for a month! Shocked Shocked Shocked
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125

The reason is I need the least memory footprint as possible (constantly 10MB RAM usage is kept after a month or a few months run) in which a console program is best suite. Secondly I need to define some static and dynamic variables in which I am not sure how to keep it right in LUA script and also save that in case of restart or abnormal power outage. Thirdly alot of if and else as well as loop is used and lastly resolving the issues with error from site (HTTP 404/502) in which I let it just wait (in a loop) until the site is back to normal and continue playing without extra babysitting it.

Memory: Fair enough, though in my experience, DiceBot doesn't really increase the amount of memory it uses once it's running and the chart and bet log are at their maximums (Which can be decreased in the settings tab).
Variables: Variables can just be defined as in any other language and you can use lua io library to save them to a file or read them from a file.
If-else/loops: this is the same for any programming language and shouldn't dissuade you from using one or another
Error from site: DiceBot automatically retries the most recent bet every 30 seconds if there is an error, and with the way freebitco.in works, it should just resume betting even after several hours of downtime or maintenance.

legendary
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thanks iam using your bot on just-dice to enable auto roll there.
Is there any plans to make it for Linux OS ?


regards

This is planned for v4 of the bot but is not guaranteed and I do not have an ETA.

iam still hot for a linux application XD
I hope you have enough time for v4 soon.

kind regards
jr. member
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And btw: I am not betting with this bot but my private one (with credit to Seuntjie in which i copied his code specifically the login & send bet command/ syntax to talk with the site and implement my own logics).



If you're only using the login and bet functionality, why not just use the bot's programmer mode to write your own logic? then you don't need to maintain any other code to ensure compatibility with the site and you can switch to any number of sites without having to change your code.

The reason is I need the least memory footprint as possible (constantly 10MB RAM usage is kept after a month or a few months run) in which a console program is best suite. Secondly I need to define some static and dynamic variables in which I am not sure how to keep it right in LUA script and also save that in case of restart or abnormal power outage. Thirdly alot of if and else as well as loop is used and lastly resolving the issues with error from site (HTTP 404/502) in which I let it just wait (in a loop) until the site is back to normal and continue playing without extra babysitting it.
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
And btw: I am not betting with this bot but my private one (with credit to Seuntjie in which i copied his code specifically the login & send bet command/ syntax to talk with the site and implement my own logics).



If you're only using the login and bet functionality, why not just use the bot's programmer mode to write your own logic? then you don't need to maintain any other code to ensure compatibility with the site and you can switch to any number of sites without having to change your code.
jr. member
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Yeah... I suspect you might be confused by the 4.95% == 0.0495...

In this formula, you need to use a "decimal percentage"... This is basically the percentage you are using / 100. All the values should end up between 0 and 1.

So, if you are using a percentage of 1%, the decimal value is (1 / 100) => 0.01

0.495% => 0.495 / 100 => 0.00495
4.95% => 4.95 / 100 => 0.0495
10% => 10 / 100 => 0.1
56.7% => 56.7 / 100 => 0.567
100% => 100 / 100 => 1

Because the start percentage is for "wins" and we're after "losses"... we then use (1-p) to get the loss percentage... so the formula, for 4.95% should look something like:

=abs(ln(4166576)/ln(1-0.0495))

What site are you using that is given you these 1700-1900 loss streaks? Huh


Yes I am a bit confused in displaying percentage number in decimal. It is 0.495% aka 0.00495, =abs(ln(4166576)/ln(1-0.00495)) = 3071.68 (by the use of formula). And actual result as mentioned 1700-1900 are easy to see, above 2000 is "rare" in which i withness 3 or 4 time at 2000+ and once at 2367 (the biggest I've seen).

For sites: anysite would yield the same thing as long as they have "provably fair" but I've played on Freebitco.in and Bitdice.me. You can check for my profit on Bitdice since it can show profiles.
And btw: I am not betting with this bot but my private one (with credit to Seuntjie in which i copied his code specifically the login & send bet command/ syntax to talk with the site and implement my own logics).

legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
Hi,
Is anyway to keep history only 24h so the bot won't need save days behind?

No

The bot reads the profit wrong when the time pass after 24 hours.

Can you elaborate?
jr. member
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Is your primedice nick seuntjies ?


Just Seuntjie. The same as my forum username.

When I will be in green again sure I will tip you Smiley anyway thanks for this great app.
jr. member
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The bot reads the profit wrong when the time pass after 24 hours.
jr. member
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Hi,
Is anyway to keep history only 24h so the bot won't need save days behind?
legendary
Activity: 1717
Merit: 1125
Is your primedice nick seuntjies ?


Just Seuntjie. The same as my forum username.
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