Seuntjies DiceBot -Multi-Site, multi-strategy betting bot for dice. With Charts! - page 36.

seuntjie

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Quote from: winters03 on June 18, 2018, 03:24:50 PM

Quote from: seuntjie on May 17, 2018, 03:51:19 AM

I'm curious about something. On provably fair sites (particularly bitsler), does the time since the last bet effect the roll?

I'm thinking about using the manual betting option to compensate when the balance dries up. I.e. deposit more and then manually continue the betting sequence (my pattern increases bet on loss). But this might happen a few hours after the bot stopped, which is why I ask.

Time is never a factor in any provably fair game, because it is too easy to manipulate. The site could receive the bet, calculate the outcome and if it's not what they want, recalculate the bet for 1 millisecond later until it's the outcome they want and there would be no way to prove they cheated.

For nonce based sites, like bitsler, the moment you set your client seed and server seed, your rolls are determined until you reset your seed again. This does not give the site power to cheat at all. In fact it takes the power away from them, because they have no idea if you will be betting high or low, big or small, at which chance or for how many bets with that seed pair.

With per bet based sites, like 999dice, your roll is set the moment you decide on a client seed. Again, this removes control from the site, because the site can only pick a server seed and wait for your client seed (which is usually sent with the bet). They cannot change the server seed once they've received the bet, otherwise the hashes will differ. Again, the value of the client seed depends completely on the user or client and is not dependent on the time between bets.

seuntjie

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Quote from: jackg on June 18, 2018, 03:18:47 PM

Quote from: seuntjie on June 17, 2018, 07:43:25 AM

Quote from: jackg on June 17, 2018, 07:38:25 AM

@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?

I have not looked into tor support at all. I'm not familiar with the technical details of how tor works. You can try to use your tor node as a proxy server and see if it works but I can't give any guarantees. Note that not all sites in DiceBot has proxy support.

Thanks for the help anyway seuntjie!

Quote from: winters03 on June 18, 2018, 03:12:20 PM

Quote from: jackg on June 17, 2018, 07:38:25 AM

@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?

Tor's 9050 port is just a SOCKS5 proxy. If the bot supports SOCKS5, then it does. However, connection reliability is less on tor than on the normal internet.

It's not much different. I have a fast enough itnernet for it to not have too much of an effect, maybe double the time for the data to go through but not much.

Then tor should work for any site that I have implemented proxy support for in DiceBot, as long as you configure the proxy in DiceBot before trying to log in. I don't really have a list of sites that has proxy support, I'll try to make a list at some point.

BetKing.io

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the bot should work OK on betking.io now

winters03

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According to bitsler this is their dice game's rng method. I don't see anything relating to the time, so that answers my question.

'luckyNumber' is the roll, and is between [0 - 99.999]. This version seems to be PHP.

Code:

$seed = $serverSeed.'-'.$clientSeed.'-'.$nonce;
do {
$seed = sha1($seed);
$lucky = hexdec(substr($seed,0,8));
} while ($lucky > 4294960000);

$luckyNumber = ($lucky % 10000) / 100;

if ($luckyNumber < 0)
$luckyNumber = -$luckyNumber;

echo $luckyNumber;

Source: When logged in, go to bottom of the page and click 'verification'.

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: winters03 on June 18, 2018, 03:36:21 PM

I'm using bitsler if that helps.

@jackg thanks for the info

Look at how their provably fairness works (I can't access the site without making an account).
Most likely it's a few seeds that they use to get the number for your dice roll.

winters03

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I'm using bitsler if that helps.

@jackg thanks for the info

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: winters03 on June 18, 2018, 03:24:50 PM

Quote from: seuntjie on May 17, 2018, 03:51:19 AM

I'm curious about something. On provably fair sites, does the time since the last bet effect the roll?

I'm thinking about using the manual betting option to compensate when the balance dries up. I.e. deposit more and then manually continue the betting sequence (my pattern increases bet on loss). But this might happen a few hours after the bot stopped, which is why I ask.

I think it depends on the site that you're using, but there were a lot of issues with using timings on provably fair sites (who's time do you use for example and what if it's out by a few milliseconds and someone picks you up on it as a site owner and demands their bet back)?

Though the stats vary from site to site.

winters03

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Quote from: seuntjie on May 17, 2018, 03:51:19 AM

I'm curious about something. On provably fair sites (particularly bitsler), does the time since the last bet effect the roll?

I'm thinking about using the manual betting option to compensate when the balance dries up. I.e. deposit more and then manually continue the betting sequence (my pattern increases bet on loss). But this might happen a few hours after the bot stopped, which is why I ask.

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

Quote from: seuntjie on June 17, 2018, 07:43:25 AM

Quote from: jackg on June 17, 2018, 07:38:25 AM

@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?

I have not looked into tor support at all. I'm not familiar with the technical details of how tor works. You can try to use your tor node as a proxy server and see if it works but I can't give any guarantees. Note that not all sites in DiceBot has proxy support.

Thanks for the help anyway seuntjie!

Quote from: winters03 on June 18, 2018, 03:12:20 PM

Quote from: jackg on June 17, 2018, 07:38:25 AM

@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?

Tor's 9050 port is just a SOCKS5 proxy. If the bot supports SOCKS5, then it does. However, connection reliability is less on tor than on the normal internet.

It's not much different. I have a fast enough itnernet for it to not have too much of an effect, maybe double the time for the data to go through but not much.

winters03

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Quote from: jackg on June 17, 2018, 07:38:25 AM

@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?

Tor's 9050 port is just a SOCKS5 proxy. If the bot supports SOCKS5, then it does. However, connection reliability is less on tor than on the normal internet.

seuntjie

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Quote from: jackg on June 17, 2018, 07:38:25 AM

@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?

I have not looked into tor support at all. I'm not familiar with the technical details of how tor works. You can try to use your tor node as a proxy server and see if it works but I can't give any guarantees. Note that not all sites in DiceBot has proxy support.

jackg

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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory

@Seuntjies, can I connect to this bot through tor? /Do I just use https://127.0.0.1:9050 with tor open in the background or is this not possible?

BetKing.io

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Quote from: seuntjie on May 17, 2018, 03:51:19 AM

Quote from: BetKing.io on May 16, 2018, 12:10:15 PM

Hi
We just launched a new site and our api has changed (it's simpler now). Is it possible for you to update DiceBot to support BetKing.io?

Hi Dean

Do you have any API docs available?

If you give me a list the api requests you normally need to make I can get you docs for them

Thanks

seuntjie

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Quote from: BetKing.io on May 16, 2018, 12:10:15 PM

Hi
We just launched a new site and our api has changed (it's simpler now). Is it possible for you to update DiceBot to support BetKing.io?

Hi Dean

Do you have any API docs available?

BetKing.io

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Hi
We just launched a new site and our api has changed (it's simpler now). Is it possible for you to update DiceBot to support BetKing.io?

N.i.a.P

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bitsler just added stratis and neo to their site.

i hope for a dicebot update soon Wink

BreachOfEuphoria

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Quote from: seuntjie on April 03, 2018, 04:17:35 PM

Quote from: BreachOfEuphoria on April 03, 2018, 03:44:46 PM

Okay, thanks. If you want to spend the time, i'm thankfull. If it's too much work then i am still very gratefull for your awesome bot.
Can i ask you, out of pure curiosity; Did you code the bot on purpose like that ? Leaving out the irrelevant zeroes.

I didn't add any formatting to that field as far as I can remember. The default formatting that .net does was good enough for me (because it usually drops irrelevant zeros but shows the relevant decimal points), BUT, the formatting kind of depends on the data that I get from the site. The string that is parsed into a number eventually affects the format, so some sites might show 8 decimals while others might only show the relevant zeros. Some might go up to 12 or 13 decimals while others are capped to 8. If I guessed, I will probably set it to have a minimum of 8 decimals and allow it to go up to 15 or something.

I understand. Thank you for your reply

HCP

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Quote from: Artur5551555 on April 04, 2018, 07:24:22 AM

I am a simple person, my income for the month is $ 300 (salary).

You do not sound like you have the discretionary income to be gambling on dice sites. Undecided

As always, one should never gamble with money they cannot afford to lose. You do not sound like you can afford to lose anything if you are only making $300 a month! Shocked

I think you need to reevaluate your gambling before getting into serious financial trouble.

Quote from: Luchi100 on April 04, 2018, 07:30:41 AM

this sites is earning? haw i can earn? here is some video tutorial?

I'll tell you right now... There are no "tricks" or "techniques" or "eBooks" or "systems" or "video tutorials" that will be able to guarantee the ability to "earn" money from gambling... unless the place you're gambling at is fundamentally broken and/or there is some way to cheat the system.

Gambling should be treated as "entertainment"... it most definitely is NOT a way to make a living... unless you actually own or work at a Casino! Tongue

I'm fairly sure there is a joke that goes something like "How do you make a small fortune by gambling?... Start with a LARGE fortune!" Tongue

Trust me on this, I work at a real life casino. I have access to all the numbers and statistics... they do NOT make good reading for the players.

seuntjie

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Quote from: Artur5551555 on April 04, 2018, 07:24:22 AM

I am a simple person, my income for the month is $ 300 (salary).
I want to earn not a lot of money on that site.
I can offer you% of what I win there.

Yobit is not provably fair. Even if they did approach me and offer to pay for it, I would not add them to the bot.

My recommendation to you would be to take the time and money you spend on gambling and use it for something constructive, like learning a new skill so that you can find a better job, with a better salary and improve your quality of life. gambling is never going to do this for you, it will only suck up any time and money you put into it.

Quote from: Luchi100 on April 04, 2018, 07:30:41 AM

this sites is earning?

haw i can earn? here is some video tutorial?

DiceBot is not meant to earn you money, it's meant to make the game of dice more fun and interesting.

Luchi100

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this sites is earning?

haw i can earn? here is some video tutorial?

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