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Artur5551555

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I am a simple person, my income for the month is $ 300 (salary).
I want to earn not a lot of money on that site.
I can offer you% of what I win there.

veleten

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Quote from: Artur5551555 on April 04, 2018, 04:20:24 AM

I ask to add a site yobit.net

adding sites costs money
it is not a charity and this wonderful exchange would have to pay to get Seunjie's bot support added
since their main thing is getting money for adding crap coins and trying to win a Guiness book nomination
for the longest support team response among all of the exchanges
I highly doubt Yobit would pay for it

Artur5551555

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I ask to add a site yobit.net

seuntjie

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Quote from: BreachOfEuphoria on April 03, 2018, 03:44:46 PM

Okay, thanks. If you want to spend the time, i'm thankfull. If it's too much work then i am still very gratefull for your awesome bot.
Can i ask you, out of pure curiosity; Did you code the bot on purpose like that ? Leaving out the irrelevant zeroes.

I didn't add any formatting to that field as far as I can remember. The default formatting that .net does was good enough for me (because it usually drops irrelevant zeros but shows the relevant decimal points), BUT, the formatting kind of depends on the data that I get from the site. The string that is parsed into a number eventually affects the format, so some sites might show 8 decimals while others might only show the relevant zeros. Some might go up to 12 or 13 decimals while others are capped to 8. If I guessed, I will probably set it to have a minimum of 8 decimals and allow it to go up to 15 or something.

BreachOfEuphoria

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Quote from: seuntjie on April 03, 2018, 03:44:21 AM

Quote from: BreachOfEuphoria on March 31, 2018, 04:00:49 PM

Hi seuntjie !

Thank you making this bot. I have allready thanked you twice but i guess it never hurts.
I will donate to you if i make any money.

I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es).
Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ?
I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll

I've tried different versions and it does it in all versions.
It does not show the 0 if the bet ends in 0. It DOES show all other zeroes.

I made a screenshot to show you what i'm talking about:

https://ibb.co/c3Avpn

I'll take a look at a few formatting options, but I'm not promising anything.

Okay, thanks. If you want to spend the time, i'm thankfull. If it's too much work then i am still very gratefull for your awesome bot.
Can i ask you, out of pure curiosity; Did you code the bot on purpose like that ? Leaving out the irrelevant zeroes.

houseworx

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Quote from: seuntjie on April 03, 2018, 03:44:21 AM

Quote from: BreachOfEuphoria on March 31, 2018, 04:00:49 PM

Hi seuntjie !

Thank you making this bot. I have allready thanked you twice but i guess it never hurts.
I will donate to you if i make any money.

I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es).
Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ?
I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll

I've tried different versions and it does it in all versions.
It does not show the 0 if the bet ends in 0. It DOES show all other zeroes.

I made a screenshot to show you what i'm talking about:

https://ibb.co/c3Avpn

I'll take a look at a few formatting options, but I'm not promising anything.

Quote from: houseworx on April 02, 2018, 12:12:23 PM

roll any winning chance and watch and think why your "luck" number will be near 100% correct, after some time(rolls) (how much? depends from win percentage.) if every bet was been 100% independent, then you can get even on 98% chance 50% luck on 50 000 rolls, but you can't

yes you can get 1500 even little bit more on ~1% chance, say it was 1800 after that kind of streak your luck number will be ~5%? i think something like that, what does that means? after several time(rolls) your luck will be back on 100%, it can be that next 2000 rolls you will have ~36-37(19-20 from this last 2000 what you deserve, and that 16-17 from last 1800 what are in "indebtedness") wins and you will be around 100% luck, thats how rng works. (but ofc on 1% chance it can be even 50 000-70 000 rolls to get 100% luck +/- 1% its hard)

p.s why you thinks that i dont trust about your 27reds on 2x payout? its realistic, till 30 i can trust and i dont care, but i never see any fixed proof of 30+ streak

That's how RNG works over an infinite amount of rolls, not over a finite amount. Over any finite amount of rolls, your luck can end up being 1% or 1000%. These are obviously extreme examples, but it is not
unlikely that your luck will have a variance of at least 5% over millions of rolls.

Here's some concrete proof on a 30 winning streak and a 32 losing streak: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7060900

variance on higher winning chances is not so much "sick" and are good place to think what to do with it Wink

seuntjie

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Quote from: BreachOfEuphoria on March 31, 2018, 04:00:49 PM

Hi seuntjie !

Thank you making this bot. I have allready thanked you twice but i guess it never hurts.
I will donate to you if i make any money.

I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es).
Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ?
I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll

I've tried different versions and it does it in all versions.
It does not show the 0 if the bet ends in 0. It DOES show all other zeroes.

I made a screenshot to show you what i'm talking about:

https://ibb.co/c3Avpn

I'll take a look at a few formatting options, but I'm not promising anything.

Quote from: houseworx on April 02, 2018, 12:12:23 PM

roll any winning chance and watch and think why your "luck" number will be near 100% correct, after some time(rolls) (how much? depends from win percentage.) if every bet was been 100% independent, then you can get even on 98% chance 50% luck on 50 000 rolls, but you can't

yes you can get 1500 even little bit more on ~1% chance, say it was 1800 after that kind of streak your luck number will be ~5%? i think something like that, what does that means? after several time(rolls) your luck will be back on 100%, it can be that next 2000 rolls you will have ~36-37(19-20 from this last 2000 what you deserve, and that 16-17 from last 1800 what are in "indebtedness") wins and you will be around 100% luck, thats how rng works. (but ofc on 1% chance it can be even 50 000-70 000 rolls to get 100% luck +/- 1% its hard)

p.s why you thinks that i dont trust about your 27reds on 2x payout? its realistic, till 30 i can trust and i dont care, but i never see any fixed proof of 30+ streak

That's how RNG works over an infinite amount of rolls, not over a finite amount. Over any finite amount of rolls, your luck can end up being 1% or 1000%. These are obviously extreme examples, but it is not
unlikely that your luck will have a variance of at least 5% over millions of rolls.

Here's some concrete proof on a 30 winning streak and a 32 losing streak: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7060900

houseworx

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Quote from: veleten on April 02, 2018, 11:39:48 AM

Quote from: houseworx on March 31, 2018, 03:44:23 AM

Quote from: HCP on March 30, 2018, 08:40:29 PM

Quote from: houseworx on March 30, 2018, 02:26:25 PM

maximum what you can ~~get~~ expect in row on 49.50%(2x payout with 1% HE) is something around +/- 35

There... fixed that for you.

Theoretically, the maximum number of losses in a row that you can get is infinite. Given each "roll" is independent from any prior rolls... your chance is still 49.5% every roll. I'm sure there will be someone that will one day break all known "records" and get some ridiculous run of like 50 losses.

RNG have "memory" thats why you have near 100% correct "luck" numbers after X bets on X fixed winning chance %. each play percentage has own maximum possibility deviations from the norm.

thats why you can't get 100 reds in row on 49.50%, but can get 1500 reds in row on 1%

how long time dice game is in industry? 4-5 years? (i dont know) ask yourself why there is no fixed proof about someone who was get 35+ streak on that 2x payout(with 1% HE and trusted site) after that kind of time? because no one had it.

i can write every forum, and tell that i was get 60reds in row, and from this moment all will trust that is a "Record"? I even can make screenshot in photoshop, and? its stupid to trust every thing what you can read somewhere Wink

RNG have memory how?
every roll is independent,at least if the provably fair implmentation is correct and the game is not rigged
theoretically if a million monkeys type on million pc's for infinite time,you can get 100 reds in a row,no problem,the only thing is when
also you can get much more than 1500 reds on 1%,I use the rule of 13x thumbs to simplify
its 13x your multiplier,starting from 2x to determine the minimum amount of reds you should be able to cover with your bank for a relatively safe martingale
p.s. I had 27 reds on 2x,but you won't trust me of course

roll any winning chance and watch and think why your "luck" number will be near 100% correct, after some time(rolls) (how much? depends from win percentage.) if every bet was been 100% independent, then you can get even on 98% chance 50% luck on 50 000 rolls, but you can't

yes you can get 1500 even little bit more on ~1% chance, say it was 1800 after that kind of streak your luck number will be ~5%? i think something like that, what does that means? after several time(rolls) your luck will be back on 100%, it can be that next 2000 rolls you will have ~36-37(19-20 from this last 2000 what you deserve, and that 16-17 from last 1800 what are in "indebtedness") wins and you will be around 100% luck, thats how rng works. (but ofc on 1% chance it can be even 50 000-70 000 rolls to get 100% luck +/- 1% its hard)

p.s why you thinks that i dont trust about your 27reds on 2x payout? its realistic, till 30 i can trust and i dont care, but i never see any fixed proof of 30+ streak

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Quote from: veleten on April 02, 2018, 11:39:48 AM

RNG have memory how?
every roll is independent,at least if the provably fair implmentation is correct and the game is not rigged

It is funny how Gambler's fallacy refuses to die. RNGs are technically different to provably fair systems, but neither can remember what the last roll was any more than the coin you flip can. Cheesy

veleten

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Quote from: houseworx on March 31, 2018, 03:44:23 AM

Quote from: HCP on March 30, 2018, 08:40:29 PM

Quote from: houseworx on March 30, 2018, 02:26:25 PM

maximum what you can ~~get~~ expect in row on 49.50%(2x payout with 1% HE) is something around +/- 35

There... fixed that for you.

Theoretically, the maximum number of losses in a row that you can get is infinite. Given each "roll" is independent from any prior rolls... your chance is still 49.5% every roll. I'm sure there will be someone that will one day break all known "records" and get some ridiculous run of like 50 losses.

RNG have "memory" thats why you have near 100% correct "luck" numbers after X bets on X fixed winning chance %. each play percentage has own maximum possibility deviations from the norm.

thats why you can't get 100 reds in row on 49.50%, but can get 1500 reds in row on 1%

how long time dice game is in industry? 4-5 years? (i dont know) ask yourself why there is no fixed proof about someone who was get 35+ streak on that 2x payout(with 1% HE and trusted site) after that kind of time? because no one had it.

i can write every forum, and tell that i was get 60reds in row, and from this moment all will trust that is a "Record"? I even can make screenshot in photoshop, and? its stupid to trust every thing what you can read somewhere Wink

RNG have memory how?
every roll is independent,at least if the provably fair implmentation is correct and the game is not rigged
theoretically if a million monkeys type on million pc's for infinite time,you can get 100 reds in a row,no problem,the only thing is when
also you can get much more than 1500 reds on 1%,I use the rule of 13x thumbs to simplify
its 13x your multiplier,starting from 2x to determine the minimum amount of reds you should be able to cover with your bank for a relatively safe martingale
p.s. I had 27 reds on 2x,but you won't trust me of course

HCP

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Quote from: BreachOfEuphoria on March 31, 2018, 04:00:49 PM

I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es).
Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ?
I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll

It's not a bug... it's like you said, the bot doesn't show the "irrelevant" zeros.

There isn't a way to change this behaviour without modifying the code to display to a specific number of decimal places... but the trick there is that not ALL currencies use 8 decimal places like BTC... and not all betting sites actually allow you to bet that small anyway.

BreachOfEuphoria

newbie

Activity: 39

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Hi seuntjie !

Thank you making this bot. I have allready thanked you twice but i guess it never hurts.
I will donate to you if i make any money.

I have had this bug where bets made does not show the last zero(es).
Maybe it's not a bug and the zeroes are left out because they are irrelevant ?
I'm making this post because my brain needs to take a 160 satoshi bet more serious than a 16 satoshi bet. Exponential growth is no joke and if running wild it will bust my bankroll

I've tried different versions and it does it in all versions.
It does not show the 0 if the bet ends in 0. It DOES show all other zeroes.

I made a screenshot to show you what i'm talking about:

https://ibb.co/c3Avpn

houseworx

full member

Activity: 319

Merit: 100

Quote from: HCP on March 30, 2018, 08:40:29 PM

Quote from: houseworx on March 30, 2018, 02:26:25 PM

maximum what you can ~~get~~ expect in row on 49.50%(2x payout with 1% HE) is something around +/- 35

There... fixed that for you.

Theoretically, the maximum number of losses in a row that you can get is infinite. Given each "roll" is independent from any prior rolls... your chance is still 49.5% every roll. I'm sure there will be someone that will one day break all known "records" and get some ridiculous run of like 50 losses.

RNG have "memory" thats why you have near 100% correct "luck" numbers after X bets on X fixed winning chance %. each play percentage has own maximum possibility deviations from the norm.

thats why you can't get 100 reds in row on 49.50%, but can get 1500 reds in row on 1%

how long time dice game is in industry? 4-5 years? (i dont know) ask yourself why there is no fixed proof about someone who was get 35+ streak on that 2x payout(with 1% HE and trusted site) after that kind of time? because no one had it.

i can write every forum, and tell that i was get 60reds in row, and from this moment all will trust that is a "Record"? I even can make screenshot in photoshop, and? its stupid to trust every thing what you can read somewhere Wink

HCP

legendary

Activity: 2086

Merit: 4363

Quote from: houseworx on March 30, 2018, 02:26:25 PM

maximum what you can ~~get~~ expect in row on 49.50%(2x payout with 1% HE) is something around +/- 35

There... fixed that for you.

Theoretically, the maximum number of losses in a row that you can get is infinite. Given each "roll" is independent from any prior rolls... your chance is still 49.5% every roll. I'm sure there will be someone that will one day break all known "records" and get some ridiculous run of like 50 losses.

houseworx

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Quote from: selffish on March 29, 2018, 04:28:13 AM

anybody know the worst loosing streak? Is there more then 32?`thx for help

maximum what you can get in row on 49.50%(2x payout with 1% HE) is something around +/- 35

but heard only about same 32-33!

B_UN1T

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Quote from: seuntjie on March 23, 2018, 03:06:27 PM

Quote from: B_UN1T on March 23, 2018, 01:53:49 PM

After Version 3.3.5 i miss this feature on statspage

http://prntscr.com/ivgas7

It's not accurate, in many cases, impossible to calculate and not worth looking at.

I wish you can bring this number back even its not accuarte you get a small feeling for it

Quote from: seuntjie on March 29, 2018, 10:32:20 AM

Quote from: selffish on March 29, 2018, 04:28:13 AM

anybody know the worst loosing streak? Is there more then 32?`thx for help

Longest losing streak that I know of at x2 was 32 or 33. There was a winning streak at x2 of 34 I think. But know that when you're dealing with random numbers, there is no maximum losing streak. You CAN lose all of your bets you ever place at x2. Don't bargain on a losing streak of 34 ending in a win.

Maybe you take a look on a old thread from me here
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14362394

seuntjie

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Quote from: selffish on March 29, 2018, 04:28:13 AM

anybody know the worst loosing streak? Is there more then 32?`thx for help

Longest losing streak that I know of at x2 was 32 or 33. There was a winning streak at x2 of 34 I think. But know that when you're dealing with random numbers, there is no maximum losing streak. You CAN lose all of your bets you ever place at x2. Don't bargain on a losing streak of 34 ending in a win.

B4RF

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Quote from: selffish on March 29, 2018, 04:28:13 AM

anybody know the worst loosing streak? Is there more then 32?`thx for help

There were some competitions like this one for winning streaks which is almost the same if you are going for 2x bets.
The mentioned competition has been won with a streak of 21 and has only been run for a week.

So much longer loosing streaks should be common and that being said any loosing streak can happen so you wont be save after x losses.

selffish

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anybody know the worst loosing streak? Is there more then 32?`thx for help

HCP

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Quote from: kowmar on March 28, 2018, 04:51:34 PM

Thanks for the reply. I think it would be a good decision to restore this function. At least make a check mark that can be turned on or off, which will or will not give change data during the game.

As Seuntjie already said:

Quote from: seuntjie on March 28, 2018, 04:42:31 PM

... I would like to have an option to allow/deny the user to change the options while it's running, but wit hthe way v3 of the is designed, It's very difficult to implement...

Quote from: seuntjie on March 28, 2018, 04:42:31 PM

My suggestion would be to be careful where you focus your mouse while the bot is running (It's a dick thing to say, I know)

Personally, I think that's a fair comment. I see it as similar to operating a chainsaw... the operator needs to take adequate precautions or "Bad Things"™ will happen Tongue

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