Topic: Several Accounts Misspelling Manchester City Footballer "Kelvin De Bruyne" (Read 1206 times)

Yes that drama surrounding that particular banned member and his known alt-accounts as well as the backing he was given by various members (and a campaign manager) was an eye opener. For example, that banned member used an alt-account posting about other forum members that had alt-accounts therefore was a hypocrite and that was just one issue related to him.

I believe he had other alt-accounts that were not caught out by members. but if it were not for the vigilance of several members (as you pointed out with the link), none of the associated alt-accounts would have been exposed.

My friend The Sceptical Chymist was right when he stated: If you're really looking to catch alt accounts for whatever reason, it's these little quirks of writing that give them away sometimes.

OH! MY! GOD!  On a forum that's used by hundreds of thousands of people a day, three accounts misspelled a word similarly?!?!?

We need to discuss this in at least two threads, maybe three!

While I do not know how to feel exactly on using this kind of evidence to connect accounts, I cannot argue about how it was been effectively used in the past to catch certain person.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hello-world-welcome-back-again-5416864

Still, I assume that when anyone does this kind of thing they also apply some personal filters at their own discretion, for example, if I also committed such typo in a regular basis, I would probably appear among the alleged alt accounts as well, however it would be up to the OP to consider other things, like the fact I participate in the Spanish board and other patterns.

Anyways, interesting to see people's attention to detail while investigating accounts.

Yes FatFork linked the "idea" with "ideal" and it seems to broadly correlate to some of the names already being mentioned as linked to the martyns farmed account. That was a good catch by him

There have been some posts already reported by members that seem to have some sort of AI involved and they have been discussed. It is definitely a frightening prospect as we approach a new frontier in technology, things are only going to get more complicated not only in the forum but of course in every day life as the technology is implemented in our regular day to day lives.

Whooop!  That was a damn good catch by FatFork--and when I opened this thread I thought it was a new one with an accusation that I'd heard before.  But nope, it was the same one and was also a very good catch.  If you're really looking to catch alt accounts for whatever reason, it's these little quirks of writing that give them away sometimes.

And now when I think of AI-generated posts and such, I wonder if all that's going to change (or if it's already started).  Frightening prospect, no?

In light of a post in a different that recently mentioned the way a particular word was misspelt by a few accounts, I am linking the post here:

Changed language in history. Bought? Hacked?

Near 1 year later I think we all need to know about one ALT account holder among above users. This is why I am giving updates here.

JollyGood, Your thinking of revising feedback was okay with your own judgement but I don't know how many messages you already got from this user: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cryptocurencyking-2701506

I got continious DM on my Telegram from this guy and every time he requested to lift the negative feedback from his account. Even he sent multiple messages to my forum account. I don't know who advised him to lift the negative feedback in such aggressive manner. I believe his intention of getting mercy is not genuine and I am not gonna remove my tag from this user. Trust always gain through honest work and contribution, Never through drama or forcefully. 

I cannot anything to that and agree with it  


You are right and I have to add credit where credit is due...

If there is significant change in any account over a period of time all members could and probably should revise their feedback as long as members are contributing positively to the forum. Posting one thing in the public threads and another thing in PMs really does not help. I will be happy to revisit this in future and I have on several occasions tagged in error then apologised and corrected myself, I have also tagged red and revised to neutral in the past too.

Sorry for being unable to post here sooner but I have many time constraints right now.

I also received a PM from CryptocurencyKing. And this is probably not his last message. Although, sending unsolicited PMs is also considered a violation. CryptocurencyKing, track your answers to your alternate account question. You have confidently denied your affiliation. Then you said that you gave your wallet to a friend. You now acknowledge that this is your account, after all. But in this case, you violated the bounty conditions and participated with two accounts. I gave examples above. JollyGood left you a tag for lying. Is this unfair? You answered confidently enough that you were an honest person, but the facts show otherwise. Can I continue to believe you? You just have to negotiate with the one who left you the tags. Although I've rarely seen JollyGood change his mind. But there was one recent case, yes.

Here you say that the Coinprenuer account is not your alt:


And here you say that the Coinprenuer account will "never see the light of day."


If it's not your alt, how can you be so certain that the Coinprenuer account won't be used again?

I agree with you that you've shown some initiative in building your account over the last year and a half.  Maybe you can convince those who tagged to consider revising their tags to neutral, but if you're being dishonest about your connection the Coinprenuer account, that won't help you in that endeavor.

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You nerver agreeed to teh deal, so I haben't bean checkking.

I don't stand to deny my affiliation with that account, no, not at all. Like I said here:
I had some serious bounty hunting past because, I never knew any better but, my affiliation with the account in question @Coinprenuer ended over a year ago. You can verify that by checking when last the account was active, its been over a year and it is an account that can never come to light. I was a newbie who knew apparently nothing except to bounty hunt as that was what I was taught by the one who introduced me to the forum but, my moment of change came by a comment from mk4 on my very first thread.
(https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54745078)
This highlights when I got concerned and really interested in what goes on within the forum. Ever since then, its been just me, Cryptocurencyking playing by the rules, making my contributions and being a concerned forum user.
I am banking on the fact that, the said Coinprenuer account is an account that has been inactive for over a year and some months, an account that is never to see the light of day as all ties with that account has been cut off. That, the negation on my account be reconsidered, that's all I plead!

I recently got a PM by CryptocurrencyKing asking me to help get his negative trust removed, but of course I told him the truth: I can't do anything for him.  And frankly, I never read into what his neg was all about since I wasn't involved in any of this drama.  After reading this, though, I seriously doubt Coinprenuer isn't his alt account.  I mean, come on--who comes here to participate in bounties and uses someone else's address to get paid?  And it doesn't sound like the supposed two individuals were well acquainted or that there was a level of trust between the two that would make such a situation (wallet sharing) plausible. 


I'd be very interested to know the details of how the earnings were divvied up between you two, assuming you're telling the truth (which I don't think you are).

Of course I got a neutral tag for it from Marlboroza which I heartily accept. At least, you've got to get some punishment for your miss doings and that was it and it is clearly displaced on my user.
[/quote]If Coinprenuer isn't your alt account, why in the world would you "heartily accept" any feedback linking you to that account?  That just doesn't ring true to me.

After having all these information I don't think anyone need to wait little more extra time to get actually what happened. marlboroza have detected his activity long time ago and in result tagged the account but that wasn't the end of drama. Thank you for sharing all these information here which will definitely help others to take individual actions from their side.

Its nothing but another self-made explanation. Huh,,,One account=> Multiple user=> Account Connected

Little more indications here,






@JollyGood, no doubt that you have already spent a good amount of time to find out the connection. Actually it was hard to take the spelling mistake as strong evidence on this case but finally it worked. Keep it up.

Account tagged from my end.

I do not believe that excuse. What you said about two (or more) people using the same wallet addresses has been said many times before by others when they get caught out.

I am tired of this already but, just to clarify things is the reason I'm yet to sepond to this aligations towards my user. I'm just glad your getting to spot some differences between I and the said Coinprenuer. Its never been any alt of mine and I've got no alt. I can't go back trying to trace all that transpired in my early days of cryptos with regards to my association with the said user Coinprenuer.

For sure I'm familiar with that user and ain't going to be laying any blame on any bot. How does that even happen? Anyway, Coinprenuer was some user that got introduced to crypto alongside myself by the same user. My association with the said user was just that, known newbies though, I was much more enthusiast than him I suppose. In that particular instance of we having same wallet address, it was of no coincidence. I was ignorant of the fact that it could pose some trouble so, I gave him my wallet address to apply and collect payment in that particular instant due to the fact that, I had mine set-up by the one who introduced us and he was yet to set-up his and that was it. When I aged a little on the forum and got really acquinted with the rules, you can't find me making such errors. Of course I got a neutral tag for it from Marlboroza which I heartily accept. At least, you've got to get some punishment for your miss doings and that was it and it is clearly displaced on my user.

Unlike many others, I had a rough start with some serious bounty days. I thought that was all there is as at then until I learnt otherwise. When a user commented 'Goodluck ranking up with all your bounty posts', not sure I recall that comment exactly but, that was it. Then, I knew bounty wasn't getting me anywhere and as such, I had to look out for a fresh start by deleting all my bounty posts and turned a new live. The new me is what you have now.

I am here trying to clarify things because, a good name or my reputation is of importance to me and taking people for their words. Initially it was misspelt name, now its explaining my neutral tag! I'm exhausted already as this already took the whole of my yesterday. I really hope for today not to go down this drain. Other than this, I've got nothing to recount.

Thank you for giving me an opportunity to explain myself, I am and still remain, your one and only Cryptocurencyking.

Peace

Our proud friend has a violation of the bounty program rules. That is the participation of alternative accounts in one bounty of the company.
It is difficult to call it an accident. And he surprisingly escaped the negative tag. Both wallet addresses belong to him, and the account's telegram contacts.
Therefore, the statement that he is the only one on the forum is a lie. Although he does not use his account, it is likely from the fact that he was caught by marlboroza earlier.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oF6vA71id2xDp8GTxY7xBMNz67ZpbwVDAzhDeIXtnzo/edit#gid=1187103448

Also, if he refers to the usual copying of his post by some bot, it will not be true, since the wallet data in this table is different. They still belong to CryptocurencyKing

somewhere it is simply mispronounced. i have seen many users write camping instead of a campaign. it's probably pronounced that way with them (I didn't follow where they were from) but I don’t think they are all alts of one person. In my speaking area, it is read exactly as it is written, which can lead to mistypes like this when you write what you hear.
with things like this, I always remember this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EY_uqDyGhw

You played the advocate of the devil well, The Pharmysist....

I know you are not convinced the accounts are linked, I might have some doubt too but seriously though is it believable that typing the letter K automatically brings up Kelvin on their keyboard? Or typing K and E brings up Kelvin? How difficult would it be to type KEV? That would eliminate the Kelvin issue altogether.

There is a possibility that I have it wrong, I am keeping an open mind on it and I can accept that and move on if need be.

I hope I did not misspell anything in my post. Did I?  



It was me that thanked you for the reply, I never asked you to thank me, you misread what I wrote or you are deliberately trying to misdirect.

Your Trust Summary

What to do have to say about the image below?



This link shows your connection to Coinprenuer: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.56065925

I presume you will claim you are unconnected to that account. I look forward to you explaining why you stated you do not have any alt-accounts but somehow through such and such circumstances you ended up using the same wallet address as another person.


Maybe you are right, it is possible there is nothing to see in this case. Thank you for your comments  

Well, about the "tagging" as far as I can recall I never mentioned anywhere in this thread I would tag any account yet you are the second person to mention it.

I can understand your point about people far away from Europe who do not speak or type English well, I would tend to agree with you it is possible but the written English of the protagonists is to an excellent level. I just do not feel that is happening in this case but I cannot prove it conclusively, ah well.

Not everybody is as clued up on European football as us, JollyGood. A lot of guys here are from the far reaches of the world & probably don’t speak/type English well.
I spell stuff wrong all the time to be fair

I can see why you might try & link all those accounts but I don’t think we can start making serious accusations & tagging people etc without proper evidence, like using the same addresses on the blockchain etc.
You always have good intentions JG my friend but maybe there’s nothing to see in this case.

Peace.

'I have expressed my annoyance and therefore I should thank you', really? Please don't sound this way, it's not so cool to me. More than  anything, you have to accept it fa t that, I'm human, just like you. I suppose for anyone to have been subjected to some false aligations despite his or her effort to clear his or her user, the user would be most likely to flip. I have seen some sarcastic statement in cause of this scrutiny and it wasn't taken to heart. I've got nothing on my mind as well and I hope it's all cool with everyone too.

I am not an alt neither do I have any other account or alt on the forum. I am and would always remain the original Cryptocurencyking. Thank you.