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If used an autocorrect and it suggested Diogo Maradona rather than Diego Maradona I literally have no excuses to not ensure it shows correctly when I submit the post.

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So, the next time you misspell an athletes name, I'll assume your account has been hacked and proceed to red-tag it.  Deal?


The fact that we have a page and half discussing such a tenuous connection is really laughable.  People misspell words all the time.  I think I have a fairly advanced grasp of the English language, and I misspell words, or use the wrong word all together.  Just this morning I noticed that in a post I made after a couple of glasses of wine last night I used the word "reigns" when I meant "reins."  I know the difference, but I made a mistake because I'm human.

Knowing how poorly autocorrect works for native English, I can only imagine the horror for those who aren't native speakers of the language.
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Come on, what's this?

I am greatly shocked to have seen this, seriously!

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Do your investigation with due diligence but, I am nothing like those users neither are we connected in anyway. Thanks for the pm.
You have taken a completely different tone in your posts in this thread whilst in public view in comparison to one you took when you responded to my PM. I am not impressed.


Everyone on the forum is capable of making an error every now and then ~
And you are categorically stating you do not have any other accounts in this forum either past or present?
I can't say I'm not annoyed with the way all this is going and you can understand my annoyance but, I've got to keep my cool. I've not been under this sort of investigation before and I'm sure to be here all the way to clear my user. My annoyance only comes in the fact that, I know my stances on the matter but, I don't know which ever way to prove it as, its just the same claim over again.

I might sound a bit rusty in my recent post but, that's basically based on the way your reading it from your end, especially with the fact that, I brought your user into the picture. I assure you that, I'm not trying to be offensive in anyway and should you have seen things that way, my apologies.

I still stand to object for claims on my user as an alt and would encourage everyone doing some sort of investigation to investigate with due diligence but would find nothing. I'm me and they remain them. Thank you!
Thank you for the response, it is appreciated considering you are annoyed and you have expressed your annoyance therefore thank you.

You mentioned you are not an alt-account, that much is clear but you did not however answer the question directly to the question which was put to you and it is repeated here. I would appreciate a response: And you are categorically stating you do not have any other accounts in this forum either past or present?



We do not have anything conclusive to link these accounts but what is for sure is that no football fan using this forum or any other would misspell iconic players names such as Ronaldo (Portuguese Cristiano or Brazilian el Fenomeno), Maradona, Pele, Cantona, Zidane, Beckham, Henry, Zola, Lampard, Gerrard, Van Basten, Maldini and others including Kevin De Bruyne and blame it on autocorrect or copy and paste. Those are probably seen by the majority as lame excuses trying to get themselves out of a situation they find themselves in.
It's not so uncommon for some names to be misspelt. Good example of that is Laszlo Hanyecz, which many here write as "Lazlo". @jamyr even started the thread about it, asking people to stop writing name of that iconic person from bitcoin history wrong.
You are absolutely right, misspelt names are not uncommon and the example you gave about Laszlo/Lazlo is a good way to articulate your point. Having said that in this particular case it is very difficult to accept that keyboard autocorrect was to blame in two cases. Why did the autocorrect not appear incorrectly throughout their posts? There could be a viable explanation for the two accounts claiming it is fault of the keyboard autocorrect but they seem to be making enough posts with enough character counts to keep on getting paid their signature campaign fee so I am not at all convinced by the explanation given.

Still though, I am open to holding up my hands and saying I got it wrong depending on what reasons are given for the mistakes but I just do not accept the keyboard autocorrect excuse. If used an autocorrect and it suggested Diogo Maradona rather than Diego Maradona I literally have no excuses to not ensure it shows correctly when I submit the post. I know we disagree on that perspective, I cannot prove it conclusively but I think there is a little more going on here with some connected accounts than meets the eye.
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I'm not convinced these accounts are linked, but I'm playing devil's advocate here.

Perhaps it's Kevin or Kelvin but then, it makes no serious difference or should be used as a base for suspicion or connection of accounts.
Kevin and Kelvin are two different names, though obviously there's only one letter of difference.  If you're familiar at all with Kevin Durant as a basketball player and have seen his name before, I'm not sure how you'd make that mistake--much less multiple members making the same mistake.

Perhaps I spelt it wrong but, you did knew whom I was referring and that's the point. Why stressing!
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You've spoken quite well, if i should sound like an African elder (chief). I'm satisfied with what you've said though, this is one tight spot I didn't bargain for or hoped to have come my way which eventually did this day and I so much didn't enjoy. Its a good thing you guys are doing out here in trying to catch the cheater and the scam. I support that a big deal and appreciate the time put in to scrutinies issue but, it was just a name spelt wrong.

I'm not a basketball fan for sure. You could go through my posts and you won't find a basketball thread post so, the name Kevin Durant as you guys have it here doesn't ring a bell to me. And yeah, you can be sure I'm watching my keys now for 'Kevin'.
I am a football fan, though not addicted and I do okay.
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I'm not convinced these accounts are linked, but I'm playing devil's advocate here.

Perhaps it's Kevin or Kelvin but then, it makes no serious difference or should be used as a base for suspicion or connection of accounts.
Well, it does make a difference if you don't want to look ignorant and care (and also know something) about what you're writing.  Kevin and Kelvin are two different names, though obviously there's only one letter of difference.  If you're familiar at all with Kevin Durant as a basketball player and have seen his name before, I'm not sure how you'd make that mistake--much less multiple members making the same mistake.

Perhaps I spelt it wrong but, you did knew whom I was referring and that's the point. Why stressing!
You're missing the point by OP entirely.  JollyGood knew exactly who you and the other accounts were talking about.  He's suspicious that such a spelling mistake in addition to other similarities in writing style might be evidence that you're all the same person.  It may not be true, but given how many alt accounts there are abusing bounties and engaging in other crap, you can't blame him for making the connection.
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We do not have anything conclusive to link these accounts but what is for sure is that no football fan using this forum or any other would misspell iconic players names such as Ronaldo (Portuguese Cristiano or Brazilian el Fenomeno), Maradona, Pele, Cantona, Zidane, Beckham, Henry, Zola, Lampard, Gerrard, Van Basten, Maldini and others including Kevin De Bruyne and blame it on autocorrect or copy and paste. Those are probably seen by the majority as lame excuses trying to get themselves out of a situation they find themselves in.
It's not so uncommon for some names to be misspelt. Good example of that is Laszlo Hanyecz, which many here write as "Lazlo". @jamyr even started the thread about it, asking people to stop writing name of that iconic person from bitcoin history wrong.


If I were to reply to a post where the name of a player was misspelt I would make sure it was correct when I replied and I am sure others would just as can be seen by many subsequent posts where Kevin was mentioned as Kelvin. Since when do members need to copy and paste a reply? The rest of us usually click on the 'Quote' button and type and why would I then need to type the misspelt name myself?
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There are examples when someone writes "Lazlo" and the other person replying to that post makes the same mistake even though he probably knows that the correct name is "Laszlo". So I guess it all depends on the person.


Your case would be stronger if for example they regularly exchange merit among themselves, which from what I could see is not the case here. Forum does have very capable investigators so if there is something to be found here they probably will, and if it turns out that you were right and that one person is behind all those accounts, he did helluva job.

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Come on, what's this?

I am greatly shocked to have seen this, seriously!

~

Do your investigation with due diligence but, I am nothing like those users neither are we connected in anyway. Thanks for the pm.
You have taken a completely different tone in your posts in this thread whilst in public view in comparison to one you took when you responded to my PM. I am not impressed.


Everyone on the forum is capable of making an error every now and then ~
And you are categorically stating you do not have any other accounts in this forum either past or present?
I can't say I'm not annoyed with the way all this is going and you can understand my annoyance but, I've got to keep my cool. I've not been under this sort of investigation before and I'm sure to be here all the way to clear my user. My annoyance only comes in the fact that, I know my stances on the matter but, I don't know which ever way to prove it as, its just the same claim over again.

I might sound a bit rusty in my recent post but, that's basically based on the way your reading it from your end, especially with the fact that, I brought your user into the picture. I assure you that, I'm not trying to be offensive in anyway and should you have seen things that way, my apologies.

I still stand to object for claims on my user as an alt and would encourage everyone doing some sort of investigation to investigate with due diligence but would find nothing. I'm me and they remain them. Thank you!
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Come on, what's this?

I am greatly shocked to have seen this, seriously!

~

Do your investigation with due diligence but, I am nothing like those users neither are we connected in anyway. Thanks for the pm.
You have taken a completely different tone in your posts in this thread whilst in public view in comparison to one you took when you responded to my PM. I am not impressed.


Everyone on the forum is capable of making an error every now and then ~
And you are categorically stating you do not have any other accounts in this forum either past or present?
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By the way, the account https://bpip.org/Profile?id=23095 was recently blocked, and another of his alt is also blocked
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=219801, consonant nickname with
CryptocurencyKing, isn't it?
I agree with Rikafip with all my hands, as I carefully looked at the style of their publication, but this or this person is cunning, and I think he has long since deleted all matches on social networks or wallet numbers.
I just don't get you on this one. It's nothing really, nothing. I'm sure to have come across a few users with similar users and still, it doesn't mean they are the same person. Let's take the user Laudanum for example, does consonant make the user same as Lauda? Or again, should you see a user with the user Lovesjunefamilis or Luvsmayfamilis does that make the user same as Lovesmayfamilis ?
Whats the whole back and forth thing n trying to make a link between myself and all these other guys. Comparing us as a distinct pair and as a single individual even when the claims isn't binding!

Everyone on the forum is capable of making an error every now and then. That some other person makes the same mistakes like you doesn't make you them. It's a fine job you guys are doing here, trying to get a logical conclusion on your claims but in this particular instance, I'm 100% sure your wrong!
You have a valid point, it is not time consuming to deactivate or even ignore the incorrect spelling option and just type the correct word/name.
What helps in one instance can also create some problems in others. Why must I deactivate because of some few spellings only to activate later?
Mind you, the autocorrect feature isn't just used for correction on words but it also helps for easy and fast typing. There is virtually zero point to this. You state the fact being autocorrect @JollyGood  and then you try to obliterate it and make it seem as though that isn't it. Don't do that, its wrong!
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You have a valid point, it is not time consuming to deactivate or even ignore the incorrect spelling option and just type the correct word/name.

As for the incorrect autocorrect being used because a member is used to using incorrect words/names even though they know they are incorrect, there does not seem to be too much of an issue with incorrect autocorrect with other words - Kevin/Kelvin seems to an issue.

I would like the other two accounts mentioned in the OP to share their views on this matter, it would make interesting reading.

Nice theory, Lol!

I don't know any of the users above but you're entitled to your opinion... If the spelling "Kevin" as "Kelvin" is your only basis of connection, then I don't know what could have been more ridiculous... JSYK I only spell it has Kelvin for two reasons, I'm never used to spelling "Kevin" perhaps due to my origin, and "Kevin" would always be autocorrected in my keyboard.
If it gets autocorrected then why not turn off your autocorrect or at the least delete the autocorrect suggestion to type the appropriate name, I do this and it's not that time consuming so I don't get why you're too lazy to do that.
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what is for sure is that no football fan using this forum or any other would misspell iconic players names such as Ronaldo (Portuguese Cristiano or Brazilian el Fenomeno), Maradona, Pele, Cantona, Zidane, Beckham, Henry, Zola, Lampard, Gerrard, Van Basten, Maldini and others including Kevin De Bruyne and blame it on autocorrect or copy and paste. Those are probably seen by the majority as lame excuses trying to get themselves out of a situation they find themselves in.

I strongly disagree with you on this, of all the iconic names listed above, you only included De Bruyne's full name... There are certain names that always different, I'm not so sure if you're anymore involved or interested in football or NBA than I am, but what I've come to learn is that especially with first names of British or English origin, there is always difference and you occasionally find the wrong ones even in big articles, we all might know De Boer, Ribery, Muller and Lampard, Kessie... Some are "Franck" and some are "Frank", some are Gerrard, some are Gerard... You might want to even check these kind of names to even see how many users have made this same mistakes.

EDIT: I most definitely wouldn't have misspelt their common in these cases, but I'm not sure I would have been consistent in writing their first names, it doesn't mean I'm in any manner less interested these sports or just posting to get any so called signature "Quota".

You might even want to check here in the forum for the popular: Vieri, Pavon, Tello, Eriksen and Romero, all of who are either "Christian or Cristian" for consistency.
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We do not have anything conclusive to link these accounts but what is for sure is that no football fan using this forum or any other would misspell iconic players names such as Ronaldo (Portuguese Cristiano or Brazilian el Fenomeno), Maradona, Pele, Cantona, Zidane, Beckham, Henry, Zola, Lampard, Gerrard, Van Basten, Maldini and others including Kevin De Bruyne and blame it on autocorrect or copy and paste. Those are probably seen by the majority as lame excuses trying to get themselves out of a situation they find themselves in.

If I were to reply to a post where the name of a player was misspelt I would make sure it was correct when I replied and I am sure others would just as can be seen by many subsequent posts where Kevin was mentioned as Kelvin. Since when do members need to copy and paste a reply? The rest of us usually click on the 'Quote' button and type and why would I then need to type the misspelt name myself?

Maybe you are right, maybe these accounts are not operated by one person. Maybe you are wrong and they are part of a FOMA style group of accounts operated by one person.


I agree with Rikafip with all my hands, as I carefully looked at the style of their publication, but this or this person is cunning, and I think he has long since deleted all matches on social networks or wallet numbers.

Or maybe there's no connection at all?

It's common for people on the gambling threads to mindlessly copy words that other posters are writing without using a spell checker (usually to meet sig campaign quota). With this logic, you can pencil-draw a connection with most posters there with each other.
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Nice theory, Lol!

I don't know any of the users above but you're entitled to your opinion... If the spelling "Kevin" as "Kelvin" is your only basis of connection, then I don't know what could have been more ridiculous... JSYK I only spell it has Kelvin for two reasons, I'm never used to spelling "Kevin" perhaps due to my origin, and "Kevin" would always be autocorrected in my keyboard.
If it gets autocorrected then why not turn off your autocorrect or at the least delete the autocorrect suggestion to type the appropriate name, I do this and it's not that time consuming so I don't get why you're too lazy to do that.
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I agree with Rikafip with all my hands, as I carefully looked at the style of their publication, but this or this person is cunning, and I think he has long since deleted all matches on social networks or wallet numbers.

Or maybe there's no connection at all?

It's common for people on the gambling threads to mindlessly copy words that other posters are writing without using a spell checker (usually to meet sig campaign quota). With this logic, you can pencil-draw a connection with most posters there with each other.

Where you see what I wrote, there is definitely a connection. But in the meantime, one of the specified OP, caught by me, had an alternative account. And if you look closely, his second account is also blocked, and he also wrote beautifully on the topic of gambling. Why, after I have found a connection, should I not doubt the rest?
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I agree with Rikafip with all my hands, as I carefully looked at the style of their publication, but this or this person is cunning, and I think he has long since deleted all matches on social networks or wallet numbers.

Or maybe there's no connection at all?

It's common for people on the gambling threads to mindlessly copy words that other posters are writing without using a spell checker (usually to meet sig campaign quota). With this logic, you can pencil-draw a connection with most posters there with each other.
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OP, I don't think you should count on these accounts to tell you the truth. If they are really alternative accounts, then there is no benefit for them to admit it. By the way, the account https://bpip.org/Profile?id=23095 was recently blocked, and another of his alt is also blocked
https://bpip.org/Profile?id=219801, consonant nickname with
CryptocurencyKing, isn't it?
I agree with Rikafip with all my hands, as I carefully looked at the style of their publication, but this or this person is cunning, and I think he has long since deleted all matches on social networks or wallet numbers.
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I'll be blunt and say I don't see why it matters. By itself, it isn't even anecdotal evidence for a solid account connection.
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Without really judging either way as to whether these accounts are connected (as much chance either way that they are or aren't imo), here's is a little data for you. This is based on a bit of "rough statistics". Searches for "Kevin De Bruyne" bring up 12.6 million results on google, whereas "Kelvin De Bruyne" brings up 75,600. That means 0.6% of individuals referencing Kevin are likely to spell his first name wrong (1 in every 166). Probably a bit less given the number of people actually named Kelvin De Bruyne however.

Given there are 5 users who have mispelt his name, if there are 830 users who have mentioned Kevin on this forum, then this would be the "rough estimate" of the number of users you'd expect to misspell his name. If someone can find out the number of users who have referenced this player on this forum, then it might lead to a better indication of the likelihood of these accounts being connected. It's worth looking into for sure, but far from conclusion it seems.

Ironically the third google hit I find is from ChannelsTV, who managed to misspell his name in a photo caption, even if correctly in the article  Tongue
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In my case, It's not coincidental but completely stereotypical... If I were to have written about the famous comedian, It would have been "Kelvin" Hart, because I just checked to confirm if I would have been wrong about that as well.

It's weird to see that all users mentioned are from the same country, but that probably explains the basis of the mistake. The name is "Kelvin" in this part of the world.
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Come on, what's this?

I am greatly shocked to have seen this, seriously! Perhaps it's Kevin or Kelvin but then, it makes no serious difference or should be used as a base for suspicion or connection of accounts. I for one, I just punch the keys and most times, my autocorrect do the damn thing.

I'm sure your quite aware of the switches that occurs when your autocorrect thinks you've misspelled a word and just goes ahead to make the switch if you don't go ahead to tap on the suggestions. It happens everytime and should I give it a second look to tapping on the likely similar spellings!!! Perhaps I spelt it wrong but, you did knew whom I was referring and that's the point. Why stressing!

Just briefly looking at their posting style, few observations:

-gabbie2010  tends to write very long sentences, rarely using full stop, not leaving spacing.
-when quoting, CryptocurencyKingm Mistafreeze and BlackVireuse are not making any spacing before they wrote an answer (I am doing the same thing for example)
-Harkorede is using punctuation marks and does make spacing when quoting
-another thing that connects all these accounts is that users are Nigerians, based on some of their posts, or being active in Nigerian local thread.
I am a proud Nigerian like no other and I'm open about it, thank you! When you brought up these guys, a few of them are familiar forum users but not as Nigerians to me. I had to look them up on there posting styles and from observation, You can tell that,

Harkorede is a complete gambling discussion poster.
Gabbie2010 and Mistafreeze are a lot flexible on the boards they frequent but not in the Nigeria Local Board, All board discussion welcomed. {No Official Language}, at least the first 5 pages of there last post doesn't reflect any post from them on that board on like me. I am a frequent user of that board and my Nigerian pighin, is always never far behind. I share a common goal at heart along with other Nigerians in the forum that, Nigerians can be seen as straight forward and genuine people and we hope that one day, our local board would be pinned.
Reading replies on your thread has made you @JollyGood obsessed at certain things like wrong spelling on a word or name as the case is now but, its not so thrilling for a pointy finger.

Do your investigation with due diligence but, I am nothing like those users neither are we connected in anyway. Thanks for the pm.
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I did not contact the newbie account but sent a PM to the two members that have not posted in this thread requesting their input.

You are on to something when you mention little things that give away multiple account operators and like you I also am prepared to accept if I am wrong because these things can happen. What can also happen is because of a lack of conclusive proof (which is a matter of opinion in some circumstances), it allows multiple account operators to flourish in the forum.

One of the common explanations for users defence is the "autocorrect" function on the keyboard. Well, if you type the word correct one or twice then it should always show up as an option. Like others I am keeping an open mind on this allowing the protagonists to post their comments, hopefully they will respond soon.



OP, you might be on to something here (good eyes, by the way).  Did you PM all of the members in question so that they could respond?  I see one of them did with an explanation that I have no way of verifying personally.  Maybe someone in a country where "Kevin" autocorrects to "Kelvin" can chime in.  I guess it's plausible that this could be true, but who knows.

Back when I used to dedicate a lot of time trying to catch alt accounts posting in the same thread and/or trying to cheat bounties I used to find little things like this that would give them away as being connected.  I think most of the time I was right, but be prepared to be wrong from time to time if you keep at this (and I'm certainly not discouraging you from doing so).

I'll be watching this thread.
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