well, this is an other reason that a real DEX should be available. As soon as somebody launches a useful DEX they will get a lot of users. and the more users the more volume, the more users the more volume => success.
i liked shapeshifter to quickly exchange some fund. Funds that i dont want to transfer to an exchange....
Topic: Shapeshift Membership - page 3. (Read 930 times)
"Membership" .... LOL. 
I suppose this was inevitable. If a centralized service gets big enough, regulators come knocking. And then comes the KYC. Oh well, it was a good run. How's Changelly these days?
I suppose this was inevitable. If a centralized service gets big enough, regulators come knocking. And then comes the KYC. Oh well, it was a good run. How's Changelly these days?
Probably couldn't be happier with the news. In the case of Shapeshift though, their CEO apparently has been for many years resistant to kyc needs and avid supporter of privacy, and since he's not said anything public, one can only assume he's done this move in the corporate interest of his company and employees. Tough but I think he just killed his business model. The very service itself was based on that concept. But I think I saw this coming once they stepped in and froze stolen funds (from some exchange hack in South Korea if I recall). Everyone and enforcement thought it was a good thing, but once the precedent had been set, there really was no going back
Why not use Binance? They don’t require KYC (at least for now and for < 2 BTC exchanges). It’s been some time since there was good no-register fast exchangers.
How long will non KYC last there? Especially if they fully settle in Malta. I can't see the Maltese government sitting idle while millions of people pile in with zero ID.
Why not? I always figured them for a rubber stamp regulator. Not that I have much knowledge to draw on...... that was just my feeling from the early online gaming days.
"Membership" .... LOL.
I suppose this was inevitable. If a centralized service gets big enough, regulators come knocking. And then comes the KYC. Oh well, it was a good run. How's Changelly these days?
I suppose this was inevitable. If a centralized service gets big enough, regulators come knocking. And then comes the KYC. Oh well, it was a good run. How's Changelly these days?
I'm afraid that sooner rather than later another Instant exchange such as Changelly is going to completely dominate the market.
I wouldn't trust Changelly with my clinkers, let alone any money.
Read the responses of their support on Reddit and tell me that sounds like a place KYC free - https://www.reddit.com/user/changelly_com
Yeah I heard many negative feedback about them too. What other services are there thats like Shapeshift and Changelly? This is the best for them to market themselves as the service that will never require KYC on their users lol.
Its also the best time to open a TOR darknet cryptocurrency converter.
Why not use Binance? They don’t require KYC (at least for now and for < 2 BTC exchanges). It’s been some time since there was good no-register fast exchangers.
How long will non KYC last there? Especially if they fully settle in Malta. I can't see the Maltese government sitting idle while millions of people pile in with zero ID.
Can some asshole please create a non-register quick transfer exchange, that doesn't do things like changelly and shapeshift, and just be a good exchange, for once?
Why not use Binance? They don’t require KYC (at least for now and for < 2 BTC exchanges). It’s been some time since there was good no-register fast exchangers.
Don't yell at me but I find their UI to be very ugly. 
And I don't remember my credentials that I registered with. I gotta figure that out first. Even though binance moved to Malta, they will just come out of nowhere and ask for KYC, its been a thing for more than a while now. I am too damn adamant to get used to it. I need a crypto-therapy.
Can some asshole please create a non-register quick transfer exchange, that doesn't do things like changelly and shapeshift, and just be a good exchange, for once?
Why not use Binance? They don’t require KYC (at least for now and for < 2 BTC exchanges). It’s been some time since there was good no-register fast exchangers.
What the..... Jesus christ, can we an exchange which doesn't do fuckall crap like this, PLEASE? Might as well go to trading stocks, if I wanted to experience same, if not worse than what stock exchanges have you deal with.
flyp.e only has a reddit subboard, and shiftex doesn't have that either.
Not to mention shiftex is literally redirect website to shapeshift, changelly,and evercoin(God knows what this is).
Have a look:
Changelly fucked up too, cool. Awesome. So now...I go and trade in an exchange who no one knows. Shut up and take my money,unknown exchange.
I had a problem using Shapeshift for some time, and I stopped using it a month ago, but what will happen to the wallets based on Shapeshift exchange?
I am deadass curious about it too. you can try:
- https://flyp.me/: native Segwit support, exchanges of less than 1$, and without BitcoinCash
- https://www.shiftex.io/: I tried it once and worked fine, I do not know the current situation
I have honestly never heard of these exchanges, but I would take your word for it. No BCH gives an extra confidence. - https://flyp.me/: native Segwit support, exchanges of less than 1$, and without BitcoinCash
- https://www.shiftex.io/: I tried it once and worked fine, I do not know the current situation
flyp.e only has a reddit subboard, and shiftex doesn't have that either.
Not to mention shiftex is literally redirect website to shapeshift, changelly,and evercoin(God knows what this is).
Have a look:
Changelly fucked up too, cool. Awesome. So now...I go and trade in an exchange who no one knows. Shut up and take my money,unknown exchange.
I'm afraid that sooner rather than later another Instant exchange such as Changelly is going to completely dominate the market.
I wouldn't trust Changelly with my clinkers, let alone any money.
Read the responses of their support on Reddit and tell me that sounds like a place KYC free - https://www.reddit.com/user/changelly_com
In other words, they can wield power to and get your coins:
https://thenextweb.com/hardfork/2018/09/04/monero-profiled-suspicious-exchange/
And what makes its more suspicious is that it hasn't clarify how they mark a transaction suspicious. So if you failed their test, then say bye-bye to your coins.
Oh, well, that escalated into something that I will definitely not be a part of in the foreseeable future. They've been doing everything greatly until this announcement. They're saying that this is an optional "membership" thing but in reality, they're putting their customer in a position where you either choose to provide them the KYC documents or move on with your life and transfer to other exchange/service provider.
What I'm interested right now is how many customers will still use Shapeshift after this and will this company be able to survive in the coming months.
What I'm interested right now is how many customers will still use Shapeshift after this and will this company be able to survive in the coming months.
Are you talking about https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/9cqmm2/do_not_use_changelly_they_steal_monero/e5danwt/?context=3
That seems like exactly the same situation ChangeNow.io is in, the only difference here is that changelly is not getting flamed for it? Why is this not a big deal?
That seems like exactly the same situation ChangeNow.io is in, the only difference here is that changelly is not getting flamed for it? Why is this not a big deal?
Among others things, yes. In other posts I seem to remember them saying they have awarded themselves the right to keep whatever money fails to 'pass' their KYC checks.
There are quite a few theories swirling around about Changelly being linked to Bytecoin, Freewallet and a few other places.
None of it inspires me to ever give it a try. At the very least they smell of selective scamming to me.
you can try:
- https://www.shiftex.io/: I tried it once and worked fine, I do not know the current situation
Shiftex.io simply uses the API of either Shapeshift/Changelly/Evercoin(?) Doesn't really look like a valid alternative.- https://www.shiftex.io/: I tried it once and worked fine, I do not know the current situation
https://flyp.me/ looks decent, although i have never heard of them before.
I'm afraid that sooner rather than later another Instant exchange such as Changelly is going to completely dominate the market.
I wouldn't trust Changelly with my clinkers, let alone any money.
Read the responses of their support on Reddit and tell me that sounds like a place KYC free - https://www.reddit.com/user/changelly_com
Are you talking about https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/9cqmm2/do_not_use_changelly_they_steal_monero/e5danwt/?context=3
That seems like exactly the same situation ChangeNow.io is in, the only difference here is that changelly is not getting flamed for it? Why is this not a big deal?
Am i missing something?
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Please kindly note that our customers are always being warned in case their transactions become a subject of the KYC procedure. Once they accept our terms, they must follow them that includes providing their data to our security department if necessary. After verification on our end, their accounts get whitelisted so that customers are able to make further transactions of any amount without extra check.
So once you accept their terms they can ask you for KYC data any time they want w/out providing information as to why.. Guess i'll be avoiding this exchange aswell.
All these "scam accusations" against changenow were payed by one user ni23457. He openly stated that he is spending lots of money on spoiling changenow reputation. This is a result of a simple AML/KYC procedure applied to him (due to suspicious activity if his coins). He've sent fake ID 2 times and after that decided to spend his money and time on destroying the service instead of trying to solve the problem.
I personally suggest that this user is involved in some kind of scam (part of wex.nz team or related to bithumb or nicehash hack). I know that crypto services cooperate to find stolen money after massive hacks and maybe this is the case.
I personally suggest that this user is involved in some kind of scam (part of wex.nz team or related to bithumb or nicehash hack). I know that crypto services cooperate to find stolen money after massive hacks and maybe this is the case.
Someone paid 0.14BTC[1] to warn others to stay away from that platform, and you recommend it to others.
There are also many Many scam accusations against that site "changenow"[2]
Try using any VPN will work.
[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45002514
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1307188
There are also many Many scam accusations against that site "changenow"[2]
Sorry, I can't open the site,
There is a problem with some IP "US" to access that site "You will be redirected to http://pleaseprotectconsumers.org/." Try using any VPN will work.
[1] https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45002514
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1307188
Right now, it's not mandatory. From the CEO:
"Today, membership is optional, but it will become mandatory soon…Membership requires basic personal information to be collected."
"Today, membership is optional, but it will become mandatory soon…Membership requires basic personal information to be collected."
So, can i still using shapeshift without KYC? Or i must do KYC first now?
Sorry i can't open the site, idk why. I hope i can still trade without do KYC first.
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Sorry i can't open the site, idk why. I hope i can still trade without do KYC first.
- https://flyp.me/: native Segwit support, exchanges of less than 1$, and without BitcoinCash
- https://www.shiftex.io/: I tried it once and worked fine, I do not know the current situation
The first one looks interesting, since you said they can do exchange with less than $1. Will give a try.- https://www.shiftex.io/: I tried it once and worked fine, I do not know the current situation
Edit:
Right now, it's not mandatory. From the CEO:
"Today, membership is optional, but it will become mandatory soon…Membership requires basic personal information to be collected."
Ah, okay. Thanks! "Today, membership is optional, but it will become mandatory soon…Membership requires basic personal information to be collected."
I'm afraid that sooner rather than later another Instant exchange such as Changelly is going to completely dominate the market.
I wouldn't trust Changelly with my clinkers, let alone any money.
Read the responses of their support on Reddit and tell me that sounds like a place KYC free - https://www.reddit.com/user/changelly_com
There is ChangeNow:
https://changenow.io?link_id=0ef634ed1582d6
or
Flip:
https://flyp.me
Or you can use OpenBazzar:
https://openbazaar.com/discover/results/?type=cryptocurrency
There are more but those are the ones I know off the top of my head.
-Dave
https://changenow.io?link_id=0ef634ed1582d6
or
Flip:
https://flyp.me
Or you can use OpenBazzar:
https://openbazaar.com/discover/results/?type=cryptocurrency
There are more but those are the ones I know off the top of my head.
-Dave
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