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Lets not forget the fact vaccines are patented  and anyone who is vaccineted falls under the definition of trans human.


Say what now? I am not able to connect how having something patented makes you a transhuman? And also, what's wrong with transhumanism? Via Wiki, Transhumanism is a philosophical and intellectual movement which advocates for the enhancement of the human condition by developing and making widely available sophisticated technologies able to greatly enhance longevity, mood and cognitive abilities, and predicts the emergence of such technologies in the future.

making widely available sophisticated technologies able to greatly enhance longevity

So, by that definition anyone that has ever been treated by a doctor, wears glasses or works in a modern age is a transhuman, because sophisticated technologies are, in fact, greatly enhancing longevity.

In my neck of the woods, 99% of kids have been vaccinated in the past 60 or more years, and no one is fighting about it. I just don't see the difference between this vaccine and the others I received throughout my life.
legendary
Activity: 1904
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If you don't fancy the silicone arm, why not go for a full festive body suit? This thing is as sensible and realistic as any anti-vaxxer "data" source, so there shouldn't be any objection to it at all. And, given we're in mid-December, it's perfectly on-trend. And it's sure to be a big hit with the laydeez, too. Just buy one and turn up at the vaccination centre wearing it, then let us know how you got on.

legendary
Activity: 1414
Merit: 1108
-Accept
-Flee
-Rebel
-Pay fine for each vaccine you miss
-?
Flee? Fleeing is one way to do it wrong and still, you try to move to somewhere else else hope that the vaccine won't get to be mandatory there but shortly after, a traveling and business infringement would push the nation to accepting Covid policies.  Another thing is, you could travel and become a refugee! Your best option lies in playing just the same way as people in your locality but in doing that, ensure to be faced with other challenges that transcends pandemic politics.
legendary
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Merit: 1276


Back in the '40s, a photograph was taken with a woman standing on the left, holding a bag, and a man standing on the right. And the same thing is happening RIGHT NOW!
Therefore taking basic safety precautions to try to reduce the spread of a potentially deadly virus is... Worse. Than. Hitler.

Does that capture your point quite well, or were you aiming for something else?


You know that all of the top government doctors and scientists in Nazi Germany knew that the Jews and other riff-raff carried diseases, put the good people of Germany in danger, and needed to be isolated, right?  Generally first to ghettos, then later to concentrated isolation facilities.  Who could possibly argue against 'the science'?

I'm hardly the first person to point this out, but anyone who ever wondered what they would do as a 'good German' in the 1930's now knows the answer complements of the so-called 'covid-19 pandemic' and corp/gov's setting the table.

legendary
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Talks in Europe are mentioning a vaccine mandate for everyone. Germany and Austria plan to have it mandatory starting from 1st of February. Other countries worldwide could follow.

Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do?

-Accept
-Flee
-Rebel
-Pay fine for each vaccine you miss
-?

Inspire us with your story.

I wouldn't get it as long as I can. I wouldn't pay the fine neither. If it comes to that I would just get a vaccine cert without getting vaccinated. I am pretty sure I can fool a nurse, no biggie. They can't check everybody's blood and see if they are really vaccinated or not in the end. If that starts happening, then I suggest you to get lots of bullets and a gun.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1277


Back in the '40s, a photograph was taken with a woman standing on the left, holding a bag, and a man standing on the right. And the same thing is happening RIGHT NOW!
Therefore taking basic safety precautions to try to reduce the spread of a potentially deadly virus is... Worse. Than. Hitler.

Does that capture your point quite well, or were you aiming for something else?

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1005
beware of your keys.
Very simple fight it in court

Legal definition of mandate
https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002

Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation
Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen)
https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn

To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists.
https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/

Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020)
https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b

No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists.
https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS

Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf.

You can also check my sig and find out what real scientists say about the toxic junk shots

+1. mandatory vaccination is against basic human rights. before COVID, have we ever had this kind of forces just to "protect from viruses"? plus, you are subject to a ban if you talk about alternative solutions such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin (some suggest that those were censored for off-patent but work better than vaccines).

Exactly

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Quote
In 1948, the issue of the right to "conscience" was dealt with by the United Nations General Assembly in Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It reads:

    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV
Quote
“mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment of a protected person” are prohibited.

Nuremburg Codes
also not allow Mandatory vaccination
Quote
Nuremburg Code #1: Voluntary Consent is Essential
No person should be forced to take a medical experiment without informed consent.

Nuremburg Code #2: Yield Fruitful Results Unprocurable By Other Means
The gene-therapy does not meet the criteria of a vaccine and does not offer immunity to the virus.

Nuremburg Code #3: Base Experiments on Results of Animal Experimentation and Natural History of Disease
This gene-therapy skipped animal testing and went straight to human trials

Nuremburg Code #4: Avoid All Unnecessary Suffering and Injury
Since the rollout of the U.S. experiment, the CDC VAERS reporting system cited lots of deaths and vaccine injuries. Same in EU and rest of world.
This is a grievous violation of this code.

Nuremburg Code #5: No Experiment to be Conducted if There’s Reason to Think Injury or Death Will Occur
Based on the aforementioned deaths and side effects, this “gene-therapy” is injurious and must be banned.

Nuremburg Code #6: Risk Should Never Exceed the Benefit
COVID-19 has a 98-99% recovery rate. The vaccine deaths and adverse side-effects recklessly compete against this high natural recovery rate

Nuremburg Code #7: Preparation Must Be Made Against Even Remote Possibility of Injury, Disability or Death
There were no preparations made by Pfizer, Moderna or its backers.

Nuremburg Code #8: Experiment Must Be Conducted by Scientifically Qualified Persons
Politicians, media, and Hollywood actors claimed that these vaccines were “safe and effective,” but they were not qualified to judge.

Nuremburg Code #9: Anyone Must Have the Freedom to Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time
Despite the outcry from more than 85,000 doctors, nurses, virologists, and epidemiologist, the experiment is not ending

Nuremburg Code #10: The Scientist Must Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time if There’s Probable Cause of it Resulting in Injury or Death
It is clear in the statistical reporting data that this experiment is resulting in deaths and injuries. Yet all the politicians, drug companies, and so-called “experts,” are not making an

Furthermore, to have any scientific significance a "gold standard" is required. In this case someone unvaccinated. You must be able to compare against, messure. x is better, longer as y.
It is also a fact some people with "green covid card" did receive a saline injection.

Lets not forget the fact vaccines are patented  and anyone who is vaccineted falls under the definition of trans human.

History, similarities between Jews in WW2 and the unvaccinated today told by an Auschwitz survivor!
https://odysee.com/@realworldnews:d/similarities-between-jews-in-ww2-and-the-unvaccinated:9

Oh the good old days, no face mask needed. ...



take this too. this report suggests that more people are suffering worse after being vaccinated than being infected by any COVID variants. any vaccine fabricators decide to take the official responsibility on all those deaths led by the vaccines will expose a lot of confidential files they don't want us to see (which we are supposed to have rights to know) will ruin all other vaccine manufacturers, so they won't.

this could be worse in China.
legendary
Activity: 1904
Merit: 1277
Imagine you don't have the covid vaccine and vaccines become mandatory. What would you do?

Most sane people would take the vaccine.
But a popular new option for the crazier conspiracy theorists appears to be: book a vaccination appointment, and then turn up wearing a fake silicone arm to suck up all the poison juice / nanobots / tiny replica Bill Gateseses, melted down 5G masts or whatever.








I heard lots of people voted for Biden using fake arms, so those votes shouldn't be counted, which means Trump won.
sr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 305
Pro financial, medical liberty
Very simple fight it in court

Legal definition of mandate
https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002

Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation
Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen)
https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn

To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists.
https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/

Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020)
https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b

No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists.
https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS

Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf.

You can also check my sig and find out what real scientists say about the toxic junk shots

+1. mandatory vaccination is against basic human rights. before COVID, have we ever had this kind of forces just to "protect from viruses"? plus, you are subject to a ban if you talk about alternative solutions such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin (some suggest that those were censored for off-patent but work better than vaccines).

Exactly

Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Quote
In 1948, the issue of the right to "conscience" was dealt with by the United Nations General Assembly in Article 18 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights. It reads:

    Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.

Article 32 of the 1949 Geneva Convention IV
Quote
“mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment of a protected person” are prohibited.

Nuremburg Codes
also not allow Mandatory vaccination
Quote
Nuremburg Code #1: Voluntary Consent is Essential
No person should be forced to take a medical experiment without informed consent.

Nuremburg Code #2: Yield Fruitful Results Unprocurable By Other Means
The gene-therapy does not meet the criteria of a vaccine and does not offer immunity to the virus.

Nuremburg Code #3: Base Experiments on Results of Animal Experimentation and Natural History of Disease
This gene-therapy skipped animal testing and went straight to human trials

Nuremburg Code #4: Avoid All Unnecessary Suffering and Injury
Since the rollout of the U.S. experiment, the CDC VAERS reporting system cited lots of deaths and vaccine injuries. Same in EU and rest of world.
This is a grievous violation of this code.

Nuremburg Code #5: No Experiment to be Conducted if There’s Reason to Think Injury or Death Will Occur
Based on the aforementioned deaths and side effects, this “gene-therapy” is injurious and must be banned.

Nuremburg Code #6: Risk Should Never Exceed the Benefit
COVID-19 has a 98-99% recovery rate. The vaccine deaths and adverse side-effects recklessly compete against this high natural recovery rate

Nuremburg Code #7: Preparation Must Be Made Against Even Remote Possibility of Injury, Disability or Death
There were no preparations made by Pfizer, Moderna or its backers.

Nuremburg Code #8: Experiment Must Be Conducted by Scientifically Qualified Persons
Politicians, media, and Hollywood actors claimed that these vaccines were “safe and effective,” but they were not qualified to judge.

Nuremburg Code #9: Anyone Must Have the Freedom to Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time
Despite the outcry from more than 85,000 doctors, nurses, virologists, and epidemiologist, the experiment is not ending

Nuremburg Code #10: The Scientist Must Bring the Experiment to an End At Any Time if There’s Probable Cause of it Resulting in Injury or Death
It is clear in the statistical reporting data that this experiment is resulting in deaths and injuries. Yet all the politicians, drug companies, and so-called “experts,” are not making an

Furthermore, to have any scientific significance a "gold standard" is required. In this case someone unvaccinated. You must be able to compare against, messure. x is better, longer as y.
It is also a fact some people with "green covid card" did receive a saline injection.

Lets not forget the fact vaccines are patented  and anyone who is vaccineted falls under the definition of trans human.

History, similarities between Jews in WW2 and the unvaccinated today told by an Auschwitz survivor!
https://odysee.com/@realworldnews:d/similarities-between-jews-in-ww2-and-the-unvaccinated:9

Oh the good old days, no face mask needed. ...

legendary
Activity: 1568
Merit: 1005
beware of your keys.
Very simple fight it in court

Legal definition of mandate
https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002

Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation
Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen)
https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn

To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists.
https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/

Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020)
https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b

No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists.
https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS

Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf.

You can also check my sig and find out what real scientists say about the toxic junk shots

+1. mandatory vaccination is against basic human rights. before COVID, have we ever had this kind of forces just to "protect from viruses"? plus, you are subject to a ban if you talk about alternative solutions such as hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin (some suggest that those were censored for off-patent but work better than vaccines).
legendary
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@Gyfts: a prediction: don't expect revolution from unvaxxed people who need the vaccine. But what about those unvaxxed who don't need the vaccine?

My theory is that the group of those unvaxxed that don't need the vax are so small that any rebellion effort would be squashed immediately. And really, the only place where you actually "fight back" are in democratic societies through legislative efforts. I'm only suggesting that the ones that are crazy enough to get violent in their efforts are those that are in such poor health, a flight of stairs would result in cardiac arrest. So we don't need to worry about those folks.

Now, if the common sensed vaxxed population who believes in personal choice and freedoms come together with the unvaxxed crowd, you have a decent chance at defeating mandates. But given how polarizing this is, hardly any of those people left.
legendary
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The way there are so many theories and discussions as to what to do about the covid vaccine makes me wonder if that was how there were so many conspiracy theories surrounding other vaccines at the time they were first discovered and cleared for usage. If the vaccines get mandatory, most people including myself will take it and that's the truth, if it gets to that, refusal to take it  will be considered definitely as an act to put the general public at risk and because how easily the virus spreads, that is something the governments will want to guide against.
legendary
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I find it mystifying to see how much people care about the government, or about this or that becoming "mandatory".
Does anybody give any thought to the fact that you might DIE from covid?
I have two dear friends who got covid. Husband and wife. Husband got it at work, and contagied her. Fortunately, they both survived it, but they both got sequels for the rest of their lives.
So, who cares what the government says? If they PROVIDE the vaccine, I will provide my arm. And no "rebellious" BS  or stupid conspiracy theory will change that.
Despite what all the "Internet Infectologists" keep saying, I have already gotten both doses of the vaccine, and I'm still very much alive and kicking. So I rather trust the real experts.
because we now know that natural immunity provides better protection than the vaccines in most age groups and people shouldn't be forced to have medical treatment they don't need

i'm not a conspiracy theorist, i've had two shots of vaccine, no boosters yet and as more data is released i'm becoming increasingly mistrustful, looks for the elderly/sickly it probably still makes sense to get the vaccine as you have a much higher chance of not making it through one round of covid but the rest of us don't need it, for the under 20s it looks like the (admittedly very low) chance of serious adverse reactions to the vaccine is a bigger risk than catching covid, take it or don't take it, but we should be able to make the choice without compulsion in either direction
newbie
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Alright, let's make another summary to get things straight:

@BernyJB & NotFuzzyWarm : accept a vaccine because it helps you not dying from Covid. So maybe my fear levels for covid are not high enough.

@Tash: fight in court. One way of Rebellion I would say.

@Gyfts: a prediction: don't expect revolution from unvaxxed people who need the vaccine. But what about those unvaxxed who don't need the vaccine?

legendary
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The extent of the vaccine "mandates" will be public shame mostly, isolating the vaxxed and the unvaxxed and pestering the unvaxxed population into conformity. Any "rebellion" that will come from these people will be little to nothing. In fact, most of the people that need the vaccine that refuse to get it are already disgustingly unhealthy, hardly mobile, so I don't expect these land masses to be at the forefront of the revolution.

Australia is so far the most authoritarian, they are gathering up the infected and locking them up in "camps." And so far, their population is accepting it as the new normal. If the Australians are indicative of how anyone else in the world will react, expect nothing.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
I find it mystifying to see how much people care about the government, or about this or that becoming "mandatory".
Does anybody give any thought to the fact that you might DIE from covid?
I have two dear friends who got covid. Husband and wife. Husband got it at work, and contagied her. Fortunately, they both survived it, but they both got sequels for the rest of their lives.
So, who cares what the government says? If they PROVIDE the vaccine, I will provide my arm. And no "rebellious" BS  or stupid conspiracy theory will change that.
Despite what all the "Internet Infectologists" keep saying, I have already gotten both doses of the vaccine, and I'm still very much alive and kicking. So I rather trust the real experts.
Ditto. My GF and I will be getting Moderna booster shots next month. Smiley
sr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 305
Pro financial, medical liberty
Very simple fight it in court

Legal definition of mandate
https://www.librti.com/page/view-video?id=1002

Demand proof of Sars-cov-2 existence aka isolation
Court case dismissed (Patrick King -vs- the Queen)
https://tinyurl.com/4k4xv6hn

To this day nobody claimed the €1.5 million euro reward proofing such a virus exists.
https://www.samueleckert.net/isolate-truth-fund/

Irish government unable to produce (Dec 2020)
https://www.brighteon.com/d20607a4-6bc2-43a4-9ea0-9604479b0a5b

No evidence that this virus was ever isolated, aka exists.
https://q17.ca/become-ungovernable/Documents/EXHIBIT%201%20UPDATED%20NOVEMBER%209%202021%20CMs%2033%20Canadian%20FOI%20responses%20from%2029%20institutions%20COMPRESS

Using Koch's postulates and their updated version shows the only way that we can get the info without contamination: http://hedrick.ucsd.edu/BICD136/Lectures/Lecture16-Denialists.pdf.

You can also check my sig and find out what real scientist say about the toxic junk shots
full member
Activity: 182
Merit: 190
I find it mystifying to see how much people care about the government, or about this or that becoming "mandatory".
Does anybody give any thought to the fact that you might DIE from covid?
I have two dear friends who got covid. Husband and wife. Husband got it at work, and contagied her. Fortunately, they both survived it, but they both got sequels for the rest of their lives.
So, who cares what the government says? If they PROVIDE the vaccine, I will provide my arm. And no "rebellious" BS  or stupid conspiracy theory will change that.
Despite what all the "Internet Infectologists" keep saying, I have already gotten both doses of the vaccine, and I'm still very much alive and kicking. So I rather trust the real experts.
legendary
Activity: 4592
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@LTU_btc suggests to just accept the QR society and buy a code on the black market.

Well, I didn't said that. My thought is that if governments will make vaccination mandatory, black market for vaccine passpprts will be big. It's difficult to expect that even with mandatory vaccination 100% of people will take vaccine. Even now some are trying to get fake passports.

'Fake passports' are exactly what 'they' want.  May work for a quarter or two, but it leads all of society into the trap.  Namely, an excuse for biometric ID methods which make cheating impossible, and more importantly, will be the foundation for total monitoring and control of all important biological processes.  99.999% of the population will be literally meat robots and can be selectively experimented on and generally played with, raped, culled, etc, with as much discrimination as is desired.

legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
Yeah sorry, my summary wasn't exactly what you said. Would you accept a QR society, assuming you can get all the fake passports you need?
I'm not sure yet, it's not easy question. I don't really want to get another vaccine shot. But getting fake vaccine passport will be quite risky - if you will be caught, you're in big trouble. I think you can even get into jail for it.
I think such questions like mandatory vaccination should be answered in referendum, but it's obvious that government isn't going to ask people's opinion about it.
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