I say it hinges on your definition of "scam"
Most users in the Altcoin world refuse to discuss this though.
They won't put it out there in the fear they will be called out a hypocrite later.
Problem is many of the "usual suspects" here get trapped by accident (supporting shit coins)
First couple that came to mind for me were Steem + Ethereum
I also would say the fact they are an ICO is far more than enough to deem them "scammy"
I consider scam and scammy to be......
...... making graphics or a miner etc for them.
Is the project legit ?
Who gives a fuck.. you
need to get paid !
It's legit.. didn't you read the "White Paper" ?
..and i NEED to find something to "invest" in ..you all say.
Believe it or not guys i have done nothing but try and get you all THINKING for years.
It's not about me forcing my views on you all but getting you all to to think about your own perspectives.
AND what is going to be productive, healthy and constructive (in many ways)
Short term profit at a steep negative cost is not worth it.
This is a nice thoughtful text, i like it.
Though I don't like the outcome, i do not consider greed or anything as a problem.
All in all this kind of WildWest culture, should remind us, that we are dealing with much more dangerous treads in future.
How could we dare to threaten central banks one day, if we are not even able to survive ourselfs.
They have not even begun to do something about us, because we are small and irrelevant for now and we are a great source to steal innovations and then send us to hell later.
That's why i, even i don't like many behaviors, think, we need them all,
as a measurement, to find out, how strong this technology is, in terms of liberating some parts of our society.
There are many of those who are abusing this "revolution", but wouldn't it be a false picture, of what we are going to deal with,
if these elements wouldn't be here? I even sometime feel love and enjoy to observe humanity raw and unaltered.
I hope we some day will be able to find out, how to not do harm to each other, without being forced to behave in any way.
Some may find it ridiculous, but i am still feeling, liberty, voluntary contribution and nonviolence is the way to deal with us.
But it may be a loooong way to go.
So let me give my personal feeling about a definition of scam:
A scam can happen by purpose and not by purpose. Some are just planning to get other peoples money, and others, on the other hand are
starting with the attempt to build something great and end up as scam in two different ways:
1) Greed in case of success, because money generates greed and the only weapon against the fact, that greed is a part of our nature, is culture and being aware of this fact.
2) Frustration, many are eating FUD and don't "survive" it. They feel left alone with their set of values (whatever they are) and i consider this the main cause of dead projects.
How may one be able to survive here and manage to keep up with his values (or even improve them)?
Well i am not in the position to judge, but here is what i try as my concept:
If you want to build something for a good reason (from your perspective) you better don't expect, to get anything back, for it.
If you are dependent on motivating feedback, or good will of others, better try a different activity. Try to get an understanding, WHY you should better have no expectations,
of how anybody should behave and why therefore your project's progress or success shouldn't depend on any need, to force anyone to alter his behavior just for your worldview.
Have your eyes open, but have a friendly view on the fact, that your world is different from the world anybody else is living in and is conditioned from.
There is never just one truth, and there is more than just good and bad, we are complicated beings that we are having no clue whats going on here or in our universe or anywhere,
so more questions are the best answers to think about others.
Disclaimer: Just my personal concept
great and inspiring discussion here,
lets keep it up
have fun
Matthias
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