Bitcoin Forum>Economy>Trading Discussion>Scam Accusations

Pages:

Author

Topic: ShogDite / Let it ride ICO Scam (Read 3731 times)

cryptodevil

legendary

Activity: 2240

Merit: 1254

Thread-puller extraordinaire

Any interested parties may also wish to consider this little terse exchange with the Chronobank ICO, too:

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 17, 2016, 07:54:27 AM

Chronobank. Where is my money??? I did what you asked and lived up to my part of the deal. Now it's time for you to pay up or im going to bring a shit storm on your head.
The clock is ticking.

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 17, 2016, 08:16:57 AM

Now you guys get all quiet and have no more answers. Probably running and hiding in a hole somewhere. Give me my btc or the shits going to fuck up royally for you and your ico.
You cant take my btc and my peoples btc and then run, who do you think you are?

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 17, 2016, 08:23:53 AM

Quote from: Chronobank Support on December 17, 2016, 08:20:55 AM

Quote from: Phoenix1969 on December 17, 2016, 07:54:27 AM

Chronobank. Where is my money? Huh

?? I did what you asked and lived up to my part of the deal. Now it's time for you to pay up or im going to bring a shit storm on your head.
The clock is ticking.

Hey,

We'd be happy to help you if you have any issues. However, could you be a little bit more specific, please?

Yeah, your fucking boss asked me to put in btc and told me I could have them back on the 15th. I've been emailing and messaging him since the 15th and he's ignoring me.

I WANT MY FUCKING BTC BACK NOW! 375 BTC ARE OWED TO ME FROM YOUR BOSS

ICOs being used to launder illicit Bitcoin while benefiting from padding out their numbers to raise FOMO levels? Colour me unsurprised.

Sourgummies

hero member

Activity: 728

Merit: 500

Never ending parties are what Im into.

Quote from: mistercashking on July 02, 2016, 10:58:36 PM

Quote from: Quickseller on July 02, 2016, 10:45:13 PM

http://archive.is/vzH00
^^above is the archive of the post that shogdite posted.

I think it is fairly obvious that ShogDite is a purchased account, and I think the original owner of vervoilman sold his account some time ago. Although it is possible that vervoilman purchased the ShogDite account.

The Phoenix1969 guy is likely the original owner of his account, although I think he is trying to make it look like he sold his account.

Either way I believe that ICO is a scam and that the numbers are being inflated in one way or another.

I don't know about the other guy but Phoenix1969 is a well trusted guy his real identity is known in the lisk community, no way he'd risk his name and delegate spot to be apart of a scam.

He needs to start looking into this then

https://twitter.com/CoinFlipperDude/status/970330718042664961

lsqgoddess

full member

Activity: 172

Merit: 100

Quote from: cryptodevil on September 03, 2016, 03:17:14 AM

Just to tack on an update to this thread as some of the LIR holders were under the impression that the shogdite account's last activity timestamp indicates he is active. Such was correct, he has a bot running to delete mine and Such's posts and probably anybody else who was posting questions he wanted to avoid having to answer.

The bot is triggering updates on his 'last active', so you cannot use it to reliably gauge when, or even if, the operator of the shogdite bought account is actually online here.

After shotdite opened a self-moderated thread, I didn't say sth there cause he will delete my posts. Cry

cryptodevil

legendary

Activity: 2240

Merit: 1254

Thread-puller extraordinaire

suchmoon

legendary

Activity: 3654

Merit: 8909

https://bpip.org

Quote from: cryptodevil on August 30, 2016, 09:03:49 AM

It seems he *really* doesn't want to explain why there is still no White Paper to detail the supposedly innovative nature of this dice site.

I think he has a bot nuking your posts.

mistercashking

legendary

Activity: 1044

Merit: 1050

yeah and phoenix used to hang around lisk chat helping out new users and he was trying to become a lisk delegate, he was also having public convos with max etc about lisk. so I trusted him. I actually made profit from LIR because I often sell coins as soon as they hit exchanges. After I sold my LIR, I didn't pay much attention to it or this thread. Sorry if anyone got scammed. I guess I was wrong about him (phoenix). and once again I don't know much about the Shogdite guy.

cryptodevil

legendary

Activity: 2240

Merit: 1254

Thread-puller extraordinaire

It still is a scam. Their new moderated thread has seen dozens of deletions of pertinent questions that Dogshite doesn't want to answer.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/lir-letitride-gambling-suite-gamble-with-lir-soon-1601049

Quote from: shogdite on August 29, 2016, 09:26:56 PM

Due to the drama that's occurred it's unfortunate but those that we've asked do not want to participate an escrow although I myself am unsure of how this tarnishes their reputation in any form.

Well, for starters, you are asking for a long-term forum member of good repute to lend their integrity to this project in assisting you in this entirely opaque 'seven big investor refund' process you forced on your community. You refuse to offer up any verifiable information concerning this process or, for that matter, any part of the ICO, so nobody knows whether you're just handing bitcoin over to your own sock-puppet accounts in return for LIR they might not have paid for in the first place.

That's a pretty good reason for any respected escrow to not want to be involved in this process.

Quote from: shogdite on August 29, 2016, 09:26:56 PM

After we've made this update to our site, I'll be posting an update about the next steps in our plans to move forward.

Before you take your next steps, how about delivering on some you were supposed to have taken already? Like providing the promised White Paper which serves to describe the 'innovative' nature of your dice site.

So what justifies the deletion THIRTY-SEVEN TIMES of a perfectly reasonable question following a perfectly reasonable explanation for why you cannot find an escrow willing to work with you?

That's kinda scammy. To avoid legitimate questions by simply deleting them. Not exactly the behaviour of somebody wanting to claim they are running a legitimate operation.

It seems he *really* doesn't want to explain why there is still no White Paper to detail the supposedly innovative nature of this dice site.

mistercashking

legendary

Activity: 1044

Merit: 1050

Quote from: MadZ on August 20, 2016, 12:14:22 AM

Quote from: danishcookie on August 17, 2016, 11:59:38 PM

Quote from: MadZ on August 17, 2016, 11:48:12 PM

Quote from: mistercashking on July 02, 2016, 11:18:53 PM

also why didn't you just make this thread with your regular account. why a sock puppet account? lol

Funny because this is a bought account too Cheesy

Maybe OP is a new user, why you like mocking new users? You guys were newbie when you just came here.

Newbies can't disclose a scam? No such logic.

No, I just think it's ironic to use a sock puppet account to call someone out for using a sock puppet, this account was sold a while ago.

Just now seeing this and i'm not a sock puppet. My bitcointalk account was never sold. But looks like this LIR did in fact turn out to be a scam.

gogodr

sr. member

Activity: 434

Merit: 250

Quote from: Perryl on August 13, 2016, 08:30:52 AM

All ICOs are a scam until proven otherwise.

Invest at your own risk.

Never invest more than you're willing to lose.

I invest early for bonuses and I invest in projects I like. I happened to like LIR specifically because of a problem with Primedice. I invested just because I wanted to invest in a competitor for Primedice. I considered investing in Liskdice too but their ANN looked like a complete copy of LIR so I just bought more LIR instead. Maybe I'll still buy some Liskdice, idk. Seems like every ICO goes below ICO price at some point. Probably better to wait until after ICO ends.

I don't know if it's a scam or not. it's disappointing that they were pretending to be someone else to gain trust, but, considering how common bought accounts are here. I know I considered that possibility at the time. Since my time is more valuable than the money I planned to invest, I decided to invest rather then truly look the person over. Surely, if I was investing 30 BTC in a project, I would be doing a lot more research. That said, I would rather invest 1 BTC in 30 projects than 30 BTC in 1 project. Or even .01 - .05 in just about every project, which is closer to what I actually do.

Anyways, that's my perspective and story. I'm not leaving them negative feedback until they don't fulfill promises. My position has switched, though. I'm not buying any more right now.

0.01 to 0.05.

lmao. why even bother kid. Either be a man or be a kid but you cant be both.

lmao.

0.01- 0.05

amateur.

Slow death

legendary

Activity: 3164

Merit: 1127

Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform

Quote from: MadZ on August 20, 2016, 12:14:22 AM

Quote from: danishcookie on August 17, 2016, 11:59:38 PM

Quote from: MadZ on August 17, 2016, 11:48:12 PM

Quote from: mistercashking on July 02, 2016, 11:18:53 PM

also why didn't you just make this thread with your regular account. why a sock puppet account? lol

Funny because this is a bought account too Cheesy

Maybe OP is a new user, why you like mocking new users? You guys were newbie when you just came here.

Newbies can't disclose a scam? No such logic.

No, I just think it's ironic to use a sock puppet account to call someone out for using a sock puppet, this account was sold a while ago.

This is becoming very serious every day. see more other possible scammer

Quote from: wannarahaa on August 20, 2016, 08:20:55 AM

Never trust an Indian coin, lol. He deleted my post about asking "why some people bought @1050, some @750, some @450 sat, it is unfair". He deleted my post. Damn an Indian scammer.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mudra-coin-is-a-scam-1591326

The people are losing money on these shitcoin, yobit should ban certain shitcoin who are related to scammers

MadZ

hero member

Activity: 908

Merit: 657

Quote from: danishcookie on August 17, 2016, 11:59:38 PM

Quote from: MadZ on August 17, 2016, 11:48:12 PM

Quote from: mistercashking on July 02, 2016, 11:18:53 PM

also why didn't you just make this thread with your regular account. why a sock puppet account? lol

Funny because this is a bought account too Cheesy

Maybe OP is a new user, why you like mocking new users? You guys were newbie when you just came here.

Newbies can't disclose a scam? No such logic.

No, I just think it's ironic to use a sock puppet account to call someone out for using a sock puppet, this account was sold a while ago.

hugelobster

newbie

Activity: 20

Merit: 0

Quote from: spartak_t on August 19, 2016, 04:30:38 AM

Well, it looks fake, because there is no such street in Youngstown, Ohio. There is one called "Little North Road" - https://www.google.bg/maps/place/4918+Little+North+Rd,+Youngstown,+OH+44505,+%D0%A1%D1%8A%D0%B5%D0%B4%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B8+%D1%89%D0%B0%D1%82%D0%B8/@41.1490171,-80.6537934,3a,75y,308.67h,72.72t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1smOGnw8gXvT_H2ZKdjQKYQA!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo1.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DmOGnw8gXvT_H2ZKdjQKYQA%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dsearch.TACTILE.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D392%26h%3D106%26yaw%3D179.97508%26pitch%3D0!7i13312!8i6656!4m5!3m4!1s0x8833e60cdcb0f12d:0xe327af04a5b3f6ac!8m2!3d41.1489917!4d-80.6537934

IMO scammers won't use real info on the Interner, they always use fake info. No doubt it is fake info.

spartak_t

legendary

Activity: 1960

Merit: 1176

@FAILCommunity

hugelobster

newbie

Activity: 20

Merit: 0

Quote from: gogodr on August 19, 2016, 03:50:23 AM

Address looks fake to me. you are not too smart are you. i guess all that cock sucking must have messed up your head.

You still wear scammer's signature? You are read trust now, dude, just take it off and beg for evil to remove the red trust. Cheesy

gogodr

sr. member

Activity: 434

Merit: 250

Address looks fake to me. you are not too smart are you. i guess all that cock sucking must have messed up your head.

cryptodevil

legendary

Activity: 2240

Merit: 1254

Thread-puller extraordinaire

The original LIR scam was intending to use the German domain "LetItRi.de" but then decided at a later date to move to their current "LetItRide.io" site.

Seeing as they already had run the ICO with the .de domain being touted as the whole play on the '...ri.de' bollocks, including getting logos made up with it, I wondered what had prompted the sudden change. It turns out you have to provide a fair bit of information during registration for a .de address.

This person, registered as both the owner and admin of that domain is:

Quote

danishcookie

full member

Activity: 127

Merit: 100

Quote from: MadZ on August 17, 2016, 11:48:12 PM

Quote from: mistercashking on July 02, 2016, 11:18:53 PM

also why didn't you just make this thread with your regular account. why a sock puppet account? lol

Funny because this is a bought account too Cheesy

Maybe OP is a new user, why you like mocking new users? You guys were newbie when you just came here.

Newbies can't disclose a scam? No such logic.

MadZ

hero member

Activity: 908

Merit: 657

Quote from: mistercashking on July 02, 2016, 11:18:53 PM

also why didn't you just make this thread with your regular account. why a sock puppet account? lol

Funny because this is a bought account too Cheesy

The Sceptical Chymist

legendary

Activity: 3500

Merit: 6981

Top Crypto Casino

Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on August 13, 2016, 03:27:05 PM

For a minute there I thought I was reading an old thread. Crypto never changes. Your greed makes this possible. Angry

Everyone's greed, investors and scammers alike. But you are so right, nothing changes in crypto and people need to stop being suckers. I don't even know what went on with LIR, but I'm glad I didn't gamble on this one. I looked at it when it started trading on yobit and it wasn't acting right.

singalone

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Is verlioman a famous scammer? Or the new guy bought his account is a scammer behind him?