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Long-term holding allow you to benefit if there is any future increase but the fact is if you are not sure of the coin you have invested in, I think the decision is still yours to either withdraw or not, but when it comes to bitcoin the best options is long-term holding,because the price of Bitcoin controls other coins price, note the more Bitcoin is accepted or adopted, the more the price increase.
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Personally, I'd go for both (although, I'm not that strong in Bitcoin), I think I'd want short-term investments in Altcoins, and then long-term investments in Bitcoin.
Good, applying short term in altcoins investment is a good idea dat will make you to experience good side of d short term investment because dat is were new investors use to get more skills to improve in profit making in the community. Applying long term in BTC investment is a good plan dat will help you to increase higher financially when the price go higher than d current price in d market. I believe u no say e no easy to hold BTC long like 4 or 5 years, but if u can hold like dat years, u will have a good experience to share with people in dis platform.
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Determining whether long-term or short-term holders earn more from Bitcoin depends on several factors. As you said, "What is good for Mr. A, may not be good for Mr. B".
 
Long-term holders who are generally focused on the potential growth of Bitcoin over an extended period, keep their Bitcoin over time with the ambition to benefit from the overall upward trajectory of the cryptocurrency. Long-term holders typically believe in the long-term viability and potential of Bitcoin and are willing to endure short-term price fluctuations. They may benefit from capital gains if the price of Bitcoin increases significantly over time
 
Short-term traders, on the other hand, aim to profit from short-term price movements. They actively monitor market trends, use technical analysis, and employ trading strategies to capitalize on price volatility.

It's worth commenting that both approaches have their advantages and disadvantages, and no strategy guarantees consistent gains.

Ultimately, the decision between long-term and short-term holding strategy depends on your investment goals and personal preferences. Personally, I'd go for both (although, I'm not that strong in Bitcoin), I think I'd want short-term investments in Altcoins, and then long-term investments in Bitcoin.
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I believe both holders make profit from their investment and another factor considered is the time of investment. Sometimes the market situations  gives room for more profit.  

For instance,  a short time holder basically does trading on  daily basis which means they taking advantage of the market situations to make more profit by trading ie buying and selling when it is bear market while the long term holders need not do so but are curious of the market as it is likely that they might be running at loss and all it takes them is just patience for the market to recover but for the short term holders it is a daily trading exercise giving them opportunity to take advantage of the market situations.

Short term holders are basically traders with experience and well skilled with trading techniques so you see why they make more profit while the long term holders are just investors who bought with spare  cash and  made up their mind to hold for a long period of time irrespective of the market situations. What it takes them is patience alone.

In all, the both make profit but it is presumed one make more profit than the other.
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The major thing is that capital of your investment. When you are investing for short term and your capital is huge and after the investment for about two weeks, bitcoin price enter $100,000 and dat means you will make a very big profit and when you dey invest for a long term with very small amount of bitcoin even 10 years the profit will not bog. So the capital of the investment determine the profit u will make.

Bross I think dem refer to as long or short time holder no be  about small or big capital investment (amount).
But according to ur opinion, I hope u realize say @ 2008 BTC cost $0. Then Bitcoin dey added for open source community resource @ 2009 way the  BTC don dey show face 1BTC na $0.0009  while 4 our local money na #16.
Na so e gradually take grow & 2day way 1Btc na US$29,457.79  our local money na #22,447,981.16.
Meanwhile recall say ever in history highest BTC sold na November 2021 @ $65,000  our local money @ #50,019,482.76.

So u see how small small monkey dey turn to chimpanzee. Where matter of time and patient make Bitcoin way no b nothin bcom somethin in a huge rate?
So as long as time as patient bring BTC com dis far way eget this kind value, e dey clear say na long-time holder sure pass bcos u as an Investor need time to read the market and u need plenty of time of u want make plenty money unless u want lean on inflation way no even get assurance on when r go come and of r go com to profit u at a particular expected time.
Eva ask urself how e go be if deflation hold u afta u purchase during inflation?
Just as dem say time na money, the time na delay as distance over money= Long money.
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Weda na short term or long term, na to know which one dey good for you. Short term Bitcoin holders are more like traders and dem get good analytic skills and dem dey make use of market sentiments, e.g wen SEC bin file lawsuit against Coinbase, dem go wait make di market don crash, dem go buy and sell wen de market don turn green. And For dem to realize beta profit e mean say dem go buy Bitcoin with a very big amount of money. Less say wen di price bin dey $25k, di buyer go buy like $80,000 and after few months wen di price come rise to $29k, di person go just sell everything and make a profit of $4640 and wait for anoda deep to take a position and e go continue like dat.

But e no be like dat with long term holders. Long term holders na dem dey mainly make you of di bear market to buy and hodl until di bull market for dem to sell and some people sef dey buy small small dey accumulate.
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Actually comparing the two its difficult to say one profits more than the other as they both have their merits and demerits and areas where they both profit its holder or owner, taking for example when holding some altcoin or shitcoin many of them tends to crash after a period of time, and if you are a long term holder you would be a victim of such altcoin, time and financial investment wasted within a short period of time but if you are a short term holder at the scenario you might be lucky to have withdrawn your profit before the coin crashes.
In the other hand when holding a genuine coin like Bitcoin the long term holder tend to make more profit than the short term holder for example bitcoin at early 2015 was around $315.21 per BTC compared to today's price which is around $29332.00 for just one BTC, long term holder would be proud of their patients and profit made.
conclusively I see both very important in the cryptosystem depending on the coin your holding, I recommend long term coin holding when dealing with promising coins eg BTC while short term holding for altcoins.
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But why BTC is the only coin people feel like hodling more than 6 or 7 years? Is it becos d coin was d first coin in cryptocurrency or base on d results other investors have achieved from it, becos d confident we have in hodling BTC for long is different from other coins in d community.
Bitcoin do and do increase to all-time-high as usual, but some altcoins failed to do that. During bull market, altcoins may not reach all-time-high again or in time. Some coins are shitcoins and some become dead.

Let me give you some good examples:

Bitcoin increased to $69000 in 2021. Now at $29300
Dash increased to 478 in 2021. Now at $31.80
Filecoin increased to $430 in 2020. Now at $4.2
Solana increased to $259.9 in 2021. Now at 23.17

Most altcoins are still 10 times lower than their all-time-high in 2020/2021, but bitcoin is just not more than 2.5 times lower.

In 2020, bitcoin got to all-time-high above $19600 of 2017. Its price increased to $69000 in 2021 which is the present all-time-high. There are many well known altcoins that did not get to all-time-high at all in 2020/2021.

Examples of coins that did not get to all-time-high in 2020/2021:
EOS
Bitcoin cash
Zcash
And many other coins.

Like I have once mentioned, your topic is about bitcoin and this can be taken as an investment assets, but altcoins are gambling assets and only use them to gamble.

After a significant bear market and if you are able to risk your money, risking the amount of money that you can afford to lose, there are some altcoins to go for, but not for long term investment except ether, but which I will not encourage anyone to invest on due to privacy reasons and centralization. There has been no coin like bitcoin.

I can only advice people to invest in bitcoin which is less volatile, most decentralized and most secure.
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E get people wey dey hodl some altcoins since 2017-2018, but as e be so, now the coins dey useless and the person no even fit sell am because you no go fit trade am for any exchange, them dey call people wey dey hodl this kind coin bagholders. Thus you don see am say no be by how long you take dey hodl the coin, but na which coin you dey hodl.
But why BTC is the only coin people feel like hodling more than 6 or 7 years? Is it becos d coin was d first coin in cryptocurrency or base on d results other investors have achieved from it, becos d confident we have in hodling BTC for long is different from other coins in d community.
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This one go different and na based on the different coins dem wey you dey interested in wey go determine if you go go long term or short term.

E get people wey dey hodl some altcoins since 2017-2018, but as e be so, now the coins dey useless and the person no even fit sell am because you no go fit trade am for any exchange, them dey call people wey dey hodl this kind coin bagholders. Thus you don see am say no be by how long you take dey hodl the coin, but na which coin you dey hodl.

I only focused this on bitcoin, just as the OP posted about BTC only. Altcoins are gambling. Although, there could be better ones like ether and bnb, but which are centralized and not what people should support. Either you hold altcoins long term or short term, they should not be considered as investments, they are just the means to use cryptocurrencies to gamble.
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According to the saying, Bitcoin investment is not a get-rich-quick scheme; normally, it takes time for the bull market to come, and it's obvious that only during the bull market are more profits likely attainable, but some investors usually don't have the patience to hold their coins for a longer time, and the profit they can make for the time they have held will not really be huge. I think it's better to hold Bitcoin for the long term than to sell it so soon. Holding for the long term is not so difficult, but it only becomes difficult if the investor is only putting all their hope on that Bitcoin investment. Perhaps if you have some other business or a job that pays you regularly, you would not really have the need to sell your asset so quickly.

I totally agree say long term investment de beta dan short term investment, evendo say e de better to invest for long term, some factors fit to make you consider to de sell your bitcoin for short term. Dis factors fit to include if na only bitcoin trading and investment be your only source of income, den e de advisable to de sell on short term. Emergency expenditure fit to arise, wey you need to raise funds to execute, instead of to go borrow, if your bitcoin de favourable to sell and raise di funds, den e go make sense to sell on di short term.

As you point out, if you get business wey de bring money to take care of your needs, or if you get a job wey de pay well, den long term bitcoin investment go de beta for dat person.
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According to the saying, Bitcoin investment is not a get-rich-quick scheme; normally, it takes time for the bull market to come, and it's obvious that only during the bull market are more profits likely attainable, but some investors usually don't have the patience to hold their coins for a longer time, and the profit they can make for the time they have held will not really be huge. I think it's better to hold Bitcoin for the long term than to sell it so soon. Holding for the long term is not so difficult, but it only becomes difficult if the investor is only putting all their hope on that Bitcoin investment. Perhaps if you have some other business or a job that pays you regularly, you would not really have the need to sell your asset so quickly.
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E get people wey dey hodl some altcoins since 2017-2018, but as e be so, now the coins dey useless and the person no even fit sell am because you no go fit trade am for any exchange, them dey call people wey dey hodl this kind coin bagholders. Thus you don see am say no be by how long you take dey hodl the coin, but na which coin you dey hodl.

If you dey hodl Bitcoin, then na long term make sense pass because Bitcoin get better utility, so long term go bring better ROI, but if it is altcoins wey you dey hodl, you no suppose too hodl am for long oh, dem no dey too get utility, so if you dey hodl altcoin and you don get ROI, just rush go sell am before e dump.
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If I may ask about long term holders and short term holders, who profit most?  I believe there are some people here who have never experience long term holding but dey want to swatch, what will be your advice to them? Your opinion is welcome.

This one go different and na based on the different coins dem wey you dey interested in wey go determine if you go go long term or short term. If we dey based dis discussion for just bitcoin then na long term wey sure pass because even all the OG wey hold their bitcoin from the day wey Bitcoin was sent to their wallets to dis day go comfirm to you say nothing sure pass for Bitcoin side then to become a long term hodler. Long term holding helps you in so many ways that isn't just profit gaining. If you be long term hodler e go make you develop the habit of patience and this one no go only help you for Bitcoin but all round investment that includes the industry and other investment options.

E go make you to get patience and with patience your investment go dey profit you, if you know wetin you dey invest inside and e no be scam. Short term holding no bad but if you're get the opportunity to choose which one you go belong among the two choices, choose long term hodling. This one go make you get less stressed for the market and all the shakara wey e dey do. But if this topic involved all coin that one be say you need to decide weda you go hold long or short on your own as nobody know how profitable any coin fit dey at a particular time. Altcoins investment dey very unpredictable and e dey get plenty wahala wey be say if you no put your head for ground you fit fall mumu to scammers.
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The major thing is that capital of your investment. When you are investing for short term and your capital is huge and after the investment for about two weeks, bitcoin price enter $100,000 and dat means you will make a very big profit and when you dey invest for a long term with very small amount of bitcoin even 10 years the profit will not bog. So the capital of the investment determine the profit u will make.
Two weeks is swing trading. Holding short term should be for months, like 6 months. Over six months investment is long term. Bitcoin can not just increased very significantly in 2 weeks and reach $100000. But in months, it is possible. More possible for long term holders to earn more profit.
We no get any book where dem write tanda full say short term holding is in months. It can also be in weeks. The main idea is that in short term, person fit not get specific time they want cash out. If the coin increase in two weeks, them go cash out. If e happen in 2 months dem go also cash out.
But from simple economics knowledge, which I'm sure we all learnt it in our ss1 in secondary school, we are meant to understand that short term investment is in investment with a time frame from day one to 6months, while anything more than six months is considered as long term investment. So it could be days, weeks or months, as long as it's not more than 6months, it's still short term investment.
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The major thing is that capital of your investment. When you are investing for short term and your capital is huge and after the investment for about two weeks, bitcoin price enter $100,000 and dat means you will make a very big profit and when you dey invest for a long term with very small amount of bitcoin even 10 years the profit will not bog. So the capital of the investment determine the profit u will make.
Two weeks is swing trading. Holding short term should be for months, like 6 months. Over six months investment is long term. Bitcoin can not just increased very significantly in 2 weeks and reach $100000. But in months, it is possible. More possible for long term holders to earn more profit.
We no get any book where dem write tanda full say short term holding is in months. It can also be in weeks. The main idea is that in short term, person fit not get specific time they want cash out. If the coin increase in two weeks, them go cash out. If e happen in 2 months dem go also cash out.

For me and talking about bitcoin.  Na short term investors dey profit pass. Especially if them know wetin dem dey do. Dem go dey buy low sell high till bull run time come and dem go benefit while long term people just dey wait for only bull run. The only thing be say, long term holding dey give peace of mind pass.
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Both long holders and short holders are profitable in their investment but long term holders are more profitable than short term holding, which I have witnessed from some potential investors in d community.


You no want do comparison here I believe but as you con put "but" mean say you dey favour long term investment to be more profitable. Me I no go too agree with you on that. The only thing wey people dey see about long-term be say maybe Dem go dey market when the bull and ATH go happen and e go be like say na Dem make money pass but we never ask ourselves about the accumulation of the short short profit wey dey comot from short term. The ROI for a short term investor fit even make sense pass persin wey leave him investment for 3years. Like we know say within 3years now, btc no go just waka reach that higher highs, the thing go dey drop sometimes too and na so short term investor wey get eyes for back go dey cash out and DCA again to catch up with the next bull etc. So e just depends on the one wey persin like to follow. If I tell you one thing self, na fear dey make some investors leave coins reach 3 years self  Grin


Long holding require patience and faith before you can succeed from your investment which those investors planing to upgrade from short holding to long holding to ensure they apply patience and faith whenever there is a bear season.


Not really. Both long and short require patient to cash out. The only thing be say longtime investor go carry more patients and hope for recovery when price fall reach ground like as e happen for 2018 wey price go back to $3,500 after reaching $20,000 plus

Short holders too make a profits from their investment but is not big like d one long term holders are making, because it doesn't need long holding before you can earn from your investment at the moment.

Na the cumulative matter my brother. People no need to switch if them already understand how e dey work for them.
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I agree with you that long time holding is good and highly profitable. It also save you the stress and time of checking your portfolio every now and then.

The only area I have also noticed is that, for a market that is consolidating like we have now, short term traders make so much profit buying and selling in a range. By the time they do this repeatedly, they would have made much more profits than those holding for long. But this require so much experience and discipline.

Las Las, it boils down to what you are comfortable with and whatever suit your risk appetite.
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Hello my fellow Naija people, I bring dis topic so that people planning to invest in BTC will know d one that will benefit them either long holding or short holding, because what is good for Mr A it may not good for Mr B based on their believe and strength of holding. Both long holders and short holders are profitable in their investment but long term holders are more profitable than short term holding, which I have witnessed from some potential investors in d community. Long holding require patience and faith before you can succeed from your investment which those investors planing to upgrade from short holding to long holding to ensure they apply patience and faith whenever there is a bear season. Short holders too make a profits from their investment but is not big like d one long term holders are making, because it doesn't need long holding before you can earn from your investment at the moment. If I may ask about long term holders and short term holders, who profit most?  I believe there are some people here who have never experience long term holding but dey want to swatch, what will be your advice to them? Your opinion is welcome.

Any investment you want to do, long term investment dey get more benefits pass shot term, because you go get high profit more then the person that invest in just shot terms, the issue be say you go just dey patient for it and you go see the achievement.

Long-term investments offer several benefits. Long-term investments highlight the importance of time over finance. Although your chances of success are slimmer, your short-term investment goals may be sound. When you invest over time, you not only get to keep your winnings, but you also have time to fix any financial mistakes you may have made. It is preferable to invest over a long period of time, such as three to four years.
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The major thing is that capital of your investment. When you are investing for short term and your capital is huge and after the investment for about two weeks, bitcoin price enter $100,000 and dat means you will make a very big profit and when you dey invest for a long term with very small amount of bitcoin even 10 years the profit will not bog. So the capital of the investment determine the profit u will make.
Two weeks is swing trading. Holding short term should be for months, like 6 months. Over 12 months investment is long term. Bitcoin can not just increased very significantly in 2 weeks and reach $100000. But in months, it is possible. More possible for long term holders to earn more profit.
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