This scam has definitely not been the first of this kind (and not the last.) I know bitcointalk is not and cannot be responsible for scams, but if there can be a quick fix to prevent this type of scams, that would be great right ?
Topic: Should be clear if one gets a message from the forum/staff/theymos - page 2. (Read 4198 times)
July 09, 2014, 12:08:32 AM
Btw a quick fix on the current forum could be: show a message above the PM if the activity is less 30: "This member is new to the forums, make sure it is not an imposer." or even only the first part of that. Newbies can still PM this way, but at least there is a fair warning. If an imposer tries to get 30 activity I think they will be caught quickly.
This scam has definitely not been the first of this kind (and not the last.) I know bitcointalk is not and cannot be responsible for scams, but if there can be a quick fix to prevent this type of scams, that would be great right ?
This scam has definitely not been the first of this kind (and not the last.) I know bitcointalk is not and cannot be responsible for scams, but if there can be a quick fix to prevent this type of scams, that would be great right ?
July 09, 2014, 12:04:55 AM
There could have been more people being scammed by that user as there are lots of bidders. And they won't be asking for escrow since they though its theymos they're dealing with.
ohmy smart scam though.
July 08, 2014, 11:59:33 PM
Quite a few scammers are registering users very similar to those of admins or global mods and then ask for money via PM.
This could clearly differentiate whether a PM came from the forum, it's staff or theymos.
This could clearly differentiate whether a PM came from the forum, it's staff or theymos.
This is an excellent idea.
The forum could display a banner, or even change the theme colours when a message from the admin or moderators is read.
Trying to restrict similar usernames would be futile, IMO.
July 08, 2014, 11:50:01 PM
No offense, but I don't think this should "staff exclusive". Many traders who have auctions get imposers. They will PM the "winner" to say they have won the auction and you can send the BTC to address: .. There has been many successful scams like that for a lot of BTC. If somehow the "reputation/title/posts/activity" etc would be more clear, it would be great already I guess. Basically it should be clear if you get a PM from a newbie.
The solution I posted above could be used with all members, even though it may reduce the amount of available usernames significantly. Filter percentage could be moved up in value.
July 08, 2014, 11:47:58 PM
No offense, but I don't think this should "staff exclusive". Many traders who have auctions get imposers. They will PM the "winner" to say they have won the auction and you can send the BTC to address: .. There has been many successful scams like that for a lot of BTC. If somehow the "reputation/title/posts/activity" etc would be more clear, it would be great already I guess. Basically it should be clear if you get a PM from a newbie.
July 08, 2014, 11:43:11 PM
There could be a filter put in place where new usernames can not be closely related to a certain set of usernames (such as ones from Admins, Mods and highly respected members).
For example, if 90% (can be changed) consecutive letters are included for Theymos, the username would be blocked.
90% of 7 letters is 6.3 round down to 6 letters.
If 5 letters of Theymos are included within Theymos, the username would be blocked.
Therefore, the usernames:
Theymo
Heymos
Would be blocked. Would be a algorithm placed on the new registration form.
For example, if 90% (can be changed) consecutive letters are included for Theymos, the username would be blocked.
90% of 7 letters is 6.3 round down to 6 letters.
If 5 letters of Theymos are included within Theymos, the username would be blocked.
Therefore, the usernames:
Theymo
Heymos
Would be blocked. Would be a algorithm placed on the new registration form.
Although I would say the user is at fault for not properly checking the user's profile, this method seems like it could work. But I doubt it will ever be implemented.
The purpose of the filter would be to prevent users from using common known usernames as a way to scam other individuals.
I really do hope what I posted would be implemented. It is not a hard filter to add and would make the moderators/admins jobs easier.
The PHP code below would be the ultimate solution. It is a bit hacky and I did it quickly but it will provide the idea for developers who understand PHP.
Code:
$filter_percentage = 90;
$username = ""; // username of user registering.
$blocked_usernames = array(
"theymos",
"initscri",
"admin",
);
$username_blocked = false; // not blocked by default.
foreach($blocked_usernames as $b) {
// find permitted letters using the filter percentage.
$permitted_letters = floor(strlen($b)*($filter_percentage/100));
$username_length = strlen($username);
$loop_times = ($username_length - $permitted_letters);
// loop through the variants
for($i=0;$i<=$loop_times;$i++) {
$checkable = strlen($username,$i,$username_length); // create a variant.
// check if one of the variants is contained within the suspected blocked username.
if (strpos($checkable,$b) !== false) {
$username_blocked = true;
}
}
}
$username = ""; // username of user registering.
$blocked_usernames = array(
"theymos",
"initscri",
"admin",
);
$username_blocked = false; // not blocked by default.
foreach($blocked_usernames as $b) {
// find permitted letters using the filter percentage.
$permitted_letters = floor(strlen($b)*($filter_percentage/100));
$username_length = strlen($username);
$loop_times = ($username_length - $permitted_letters);
// loop through the variants
for($i=0;$i<=$loop_times;$i++) {
$checkable = strlen($username,$i,$username_length); // create a variant.
// check if one of the variants is contained within the suspected blocked username.
if (strpos($checkable,$b) !== false) {
$username_blocked = true;
}
}
}
Basically just checks the variants of the submitted usernames against a blocked usernames array.
July 08, 2014, 09:34:22 PM
There could be a filter put in place where new usernames can not be closely related to a certain set of usernames (such as ones from Admins, Mods and highly respected members).
For example, if 90% (can be changed) consecutive letters are included for Theymos, the username would be blocked.
90% of 7 letters is 6.3 round down to 6 letters.
If 5 letters of Theymos are included within Theymos, the username would be blocked.
Therefore, the usernames:
Theymo
Heymos
Would be blocked. Would be a algorithm placed on the new registration form.
For example, if 90% (can be changed) consecutive letters are included for Theymos, the username would be blocked.
90% of 7 letters is 6.3 round down to 6 letters.
If 5 letters of Theymos are included within Theymos, the username would be blocked.
Therefore, the usernames:
Theymo
Heymos
Would be blocked. Would be a algorithm placed on the new registration form.
Although I would say the user is at fault for not properly checking the user's profile, this method seems like it could work. But I doubt it will ever be implemented.
July 08, 2014, 08:53:01 PM
There could be a filter put in place where new usernames can not be closely related to a certain set of usernames (such as ones from Admins, Mods and highly respected members).
For example, if 90% (can be changed) consecutive letters are included for Theymos, the username would be blocked.
90% of 7 letters is 6.3 round down to 6 letters.
If 6 letters of Theymos are included within Theymos, the username would be blocked.
Therefore, the usernames:
Theymo
Heymos
Would be blocked. Would be a algorithm placed on the new registration form.
For example, if 90% (can be changed) consecutive letters are included for Theymos, the username would be blocked.
90% of 7 letters is 6.3 round down to 6 letters.
If 6 letters of Theymos are included within Theymos, the username would be blocked.
Therefore, the usernames:
Theymo
Heymos
Would be blocked. Would be a algorithm placed on the new registration form.
July 05, 2014, 11:04:58 AM
Mny places just shade the message slightly with a certain color (usually green or yellow). That could work here.
Or simply just change both the username and position text into a bright color. July 04, 2014, 03:54:54 PM
Mny places just shade the message slightly with a certain color (usually green or yellow). That could work here.
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July 01, 2014, 06:19:26 AM
I share your opinion. But this is just a simple measure that could prevent some from being scammed(like this poor guy here).
And it can be done quite easily in the new forum software, the PMs from forum/stff can be colored in a different shade in the message list.
And it can be done quite easily in the new forum software, the PMs from forum/stff can be colored in a different shade in the message list.
I saw that, but I think any amount of preventative measures just wont help some people. He sent money to a newbie named theymo5 with 0 posts 0 activity and 0 feedback which would've all been clearly visible in the PM. Maybe having moderator's names or messages in red or shaded differently somehow or perhaps a red warning stating this is a message from staff could be implemented, but not everybody would be aware of this so I think the niaive will always be exploited in some way unfortunately.
July 01, 2014, 05:50:15 AM
I share your opinion. But this is just a simple measure that could prevent some from being scammed(like this poor guy here[/url).
And it can be done quite easily in the new forum software, the PMs from forum/stff can be colored in a different shade in the message list.
And it can be done quite easily in the new forum software, the PMs from forum/stff can be colored in a different shade in the message list.
To be fair, that guy just learned a very expensive lesson. Always verify who you're dealing with -- no matter who it is.
I personally think it'd be unnecessary, but I don't see any harm in adding the feature.
July 01, 2014, 05:47:06 AM
I share your opinion. But this is just a simple measure that could prevent some from being scammed(like this poor guy here).
And it can be done quite easily in the new forum software, the PMs from forum/stff can be colored in a different shade in the message list.
And it can be done quite easily in the new forum software, the PMs from forum/stff can be colored in a different shade in the message list.
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July 01, 2014, 05:40:26 AM
Well it does already state staff/moderator/admin etc under your name (amongst other details) and you can clearly see all that when you get a message from one of you guys, but maybe something more prominent could be displayed in some way, but for some people there's nothing that'll stop them from being scammed.
July 01, 2014, 05:24:14 AM
Quite a few scammers are registering users very similar to those of admins or global mods and then ask for money via PM.
This could clearly differentiate whether a PM came from the forum, it's staff or theymos.
This could clearly differentiate whether a PM came from the forum, it's staff or theymos.
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