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Topic: Should confirmed liars with close links to other liars and scammers be on DT1? (Read 490 times)

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I get credit for TMAN leaving the forum? Awesome! He was a piece of shit. I hope I get credit for Vod leaving when the time comes also.

You are doing everything possible to keep me from leaving; I spend too much time slapping you into reality.  

Stop bumping your posts about me every week.  Or work on your panic room - point those cameras into your neighbor's windows - jump at every little noise.   You have been trying to get other people to put me in the hospital for a while now, so karma and your attitude may work against you once the general public is aware of the vast scope of your crime.

OGNasty is a confirmed liar and he has close links with other liars.   But DT has become political, instead of being based on trust. DP?

The link to the OG/TMAN thread is in my sig.  Smiley  I'm confident that KWH, TMAN, Lauda and others will come back in 2021.  Maybe this forum can return to the better days before The NastyGang Came to TownTM.    

I now return you to the intelligent responses by Mr. OG...



The brain death you claimed left you 10% reduced from the former fat mongoloid you were before ( which now you can't even remember you said resulting in more trust abuse from you) is really causing you to embarrass yourself.

Claiming tman ( a documented auction scammer and undeniable non achieving retard and supporter of lauda)
And lauda ( documented scammer ) both of which colluded to extort other forum members are the sort of members we need to return to bitcointalk is laughable.

Only a fat old loser who was been here since 2011 and is still a broke down bum on welfare who is of course jealous of everyone else who are clearly financially secure now ( being millionaires or better) who joined with nothing more recently would need to seek friendship and collude with those scumbags.

Stop posting lies on my thread.

Liars and scammers have no place on DT1. Especially those that have constantly tried to deceive others motivated by their own financial gain.

You may not be a scammer yourself but knowingly supporting and protecting scammers is just as bad.

To phillipMA. We don't need many DT1 they should be there for the highest level decisions almost like judges.
100 btc is not that much to early adopters. But 25 btc could be a minimum.

Yes the argument the More trustworthy they appear or should be can always be leveraged to pull the largest scams . You can never get away from that. Just like being a DT1 gives you more leverage to pull as scam than a 0 post newbie.

It is quite arguable that any trust system creates as much risk as no trust system all things considered.
This one happens to be full of holes that can be exploited ranging from mutual red tag removal trading  to flag blocking to domination and entrenchment of the best sig and rev streams , punishing whistleblowers and deterring others.
It is the failed design of a very stubborn mind.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
I get credit for TMAN leaving the forum? Awesome! He was a piece of shit. I hope I get credit for Vod leaving when the time comes also.

You are doing everything possible to keep me from leaving; I spend too much time slapping you into reality.  

Stop bumping your posts about me every week.  Or work on your panic room - point those cameras into your neighbor's windows - jump at every little noise.   You have been trying to get other people to put me in the hospital for a while now, so karma and your attitude may work against you once the general public is aware of the vast scope of your crime.

OGNasty is a confirmed liar and he has close links with other liars.   But DT has become political, instead of being based on trust. DP?

The link to the OG/TMAN thread is in my sig.  Smiley  I'm confident that KWH, TMAN, Lauda and others will come back in 2021.  Maybe this forum can return to the better days before The NastyGang Came to TownTM.   

I now return you to the intelligent responses by Mr. OG...

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The good honest people withdraw and the filth gets multiple alt accounts in DT.

RIP KWH
RIP TMAN
RIP ZEPHER

The remaining honest people should get rid of the filth before we are outnumbered.  I'll do my part.

I'm sure everyone will be happy to know this ongoing fight between Mr. OG and I should be over by the winter solstice. Smiley


Why you putting RIP TMAN?

He was a good honest person that left the forum because of Mr. OG, who has now hinted that he has alt accounts on DT in this forum.   I think I've identified one (non-DT) that invested in his ponzi, but I don't post things unless I am more sure than unsure.

I get credit for TMAN leaving the forum? Awesome! He was a piece of shit. I hope I get credit for Vod leaving when the time comes also.
legendary
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Please keep on topic moronbozo.
My first post was on topic. You asked a question and I responded to it, take another look:
I note so many liars, decievers and scammers infesting DT1 and DT2?
I don't know, did you?
Then you start putting words in my mouth claiming that I said something which I didn't and after that, you accused me that I said that you are The Pharmacist:
Cryptohunter is every single new member who either discovers new evidence of lying or scamming  by default trust members?
Perhaps I must be them then.  I will be who you want me to be. But marlboroza wants me to be you the pharmacist.
Now you are telling me that I am off topic  Huh Why are you posting these hacked things?
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
The good honest people withdraw and the filth gets multiple alt accounts in DT.

RIP KWH
RIP TMAN
RIP ZEPHER

The remaining honest people should get rid of the filth before we are outnumbered.  I'll do my part.

I'm sure everyone will be happy to know this ongoing fight between Mr. OG and I should be over by the winter solstice. Smiley


Why you putting RIP TMAN?

He was a good honest person that left the forum because of Mr. OG, who has now hinted that he has alt accounts on DT in this forum.   I think I've identified one (non-DT) that invested in his ponzi, but I don't post things unless I am more sure than unsure.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I note so many liars, decievers and scammers infesting DT1 and DT2?
This latest issue with Dt1 members being caught red handed lying to the forum and using trust inclusions and PMs telling people they have sent money to collude with them to prevent flags for companies they shill for is disgusting.
Should theymos start to fix these gaping holes or punish those exploiting them for selfish reasons?
Why are those caught scamming and lying and deceiving for financial reward allowed to remain on DT?
Where did all the old forum members go?
DT1 should consist of elder members than can sign btc wallets containing 100 BTC minimum that are never touched.  They should also have no affinity or sponsorship from any company. They should have been here since 2012 or 2014 minimum.
They must have zero occasions of any financially dangerous actions in the entire history.
DT1 is meant to inspire trust not be an elite scammers club.
Thanks dear friends for listening to my words.

 

100 btc in a frozen wallet is not very reasonable.

at the moment that is  about $1,150,000

Why would anyone agree to freeze that much wealth?

I could see a tier system maybe some people at 1 btc some at 5 btc maybe a few at 10 btc.

but 100 btc frozen is too much to ask for.

If anything it may make the guy too trustworthy and allow for a bigger scam.

BTW who is to say that the 100 coin wallet guy does not point it out and scam 200 coins then claim the 200 and the frozen 100 were hacked via a wrench 🔧 attack.
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Well I'm doing my part - I've put him on ignore.

I need to make a new ignore list. I think most of the current occupants have left the forum.

How is this old fart still posting. I heard you were banned from wifi range until you saved up enough to order a big mac meal?
Another loser that wants to be popular on the forum.
Can't stay on topic but good for Bumps.

Now back to discussing having confirmed financially motivated liars in DT1 that try to manipulate others and will stab their pals in the back if told to by confirmed scammers they are afraid of.


legendary
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Well I'm doing my part - I've put him on ignore.

I need to make a new ignore list. I think most of the current occupants have left the forum.
member
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The good honest people withdraw and the filth gets multiple alt accounts in DT.

RIP KWH
RIP TMAN
RIP ZEPHER

The remaining honest people should get rid of the filth before we are outnumbered.  I'll do my part.

I'm sure everyone will be happy to know this ongoing fight between Mr. OG and I should be over by the winter solstice. Smiley


Why you putting RIP TMAN?
Vod
legendary
Activity: 3668
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Licking my boob since 1970
The good honest people withdraw and the filth gets multiple alt accounts in DT.

RIP KWH
RIP TMAN
RIP ZEPHER

The remaining honest people should get rid of the filth before we are outnumbered.  I'll do my part.

I'm sure everyone will be happy to know this ongoing fight between Mr. OG and I should be over by the winter solstice. Smiley
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Look above you said you don't know.
No, I didn't.
When I said DT is full of liars and scammers.
No, you didn't. You asked a question.
Let's try a simple one for you moronbozo.
Well, when moronbozo come here I am sure they will respond, in the meanwhile, can you tell everyone your story how you shilled hard for scammer?

Accepted or not?

Yes or no?

Please keep on topic moronbozo.
You are free to create a separate thread then try to explain what you mean there,  I will always be happy to humiliate and eviscerate your arguments.

This desperate diversion is fun though.

Meantime its satisfying to see you are terrified to answer yes or no to the question about lfcbitcoin lying. What a dumb asslicking weasel you are moronbozo.

Thanks, your fear to answer is always a pleasure.

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If you disagree with users on DT1 or DT2, show some effort to contribute to the community, grow your account and grow your reputation until you are DT1 yourself and you can vote as much users out / in as you want. That is called democracy and so far this system is working as intended by theymos.

Democracy doesn’t do so well online when the community is largely populated with filth that doesn’t care about what is right. The good honest people withdraw and the filth gets multiple alt accounts in DT. Welcome to the Internet, where good intentions get poisoned and die.
legendary
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Look above you said you don't know.
No, I didn't.
When I said DT is full of liars and scammers.
No, you didn't. You asked a question.
Let's try a simple one for you moronbozo.
Well, when moronbozo come here I am sure they will respond, in the meanwhile, can you tell everyone your story how you shilled hard for scammer?

Accepted or not?

Yes or no?
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You claim that you know of no liars or deceiver on DT1 and DT2?
Now where did I say that?
But marlboroza wants me to be you the pharmacist.
Why are you making things up? I have never said that you are The Pharmacist. This user is deliberately trying to cause fight between forum members.

Look above you said you don't know. When I said DT is full of liars and scammers.
I just read you said according to the pharmacist dt must be aged 2012 and have 100btc or something just like what I had said?

Unless he shares my views it looked like you were saying I was him?
If you were not saying that then fine. It makes no difference to my thread. 
Last thing I want is you two falling out dear friends.

So far too much irrelevant speculation on "who" when it makes no difference at all. I am presenting discussion based events that anyone can verify for themselves.

Let's focus on the stipulated topic.

Let's try a simple one for you moronbozo.
Do you accept lfcbitcoin lied ?

I have quoted the post from hacker that contains the pms and lfc claiming he never told anyone to oppose the flag

Yes or no?

Let's see what moronbozo comes up with. Some strange excuse  or will run off.

The tactic to divert to who is asking the question is boring and desperate.

Should people who lie about asking others to protect their sponsors by rejecting flags be on DT1?
We can discuss his links to other documented liars and scammers  after.


legendary
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You claim that you know of no liars or deceiver on DT1 and DT2?
Now where did I say that?
But marlboroza wants me to be you the pharmacist.
Why are you making things up? I have never said that you are The Pharmacist. This user is deliberately trying to cause fight between forum members.
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CMIIW, but do you imply that no one should be on DT1? If someone have 100 BTC or more, i'm sure they'll touch it.

It's not PoS or master node scheme where you get reward from freezing your money for some time.

If they need to touch it they are not wealthy enough to inspire confidence enough to be on DT1.
This is the birth place of bitcoin. 100 btc is only a huge sum to those that are not original or early supporters.

You can not have people on DT1 that are short of btc. Their need for increasing btc via sigs and other means will create a strong conflict of interest.

BCA - on the contrary those that have made their fortunes on here should be those that give back their time.
Dt1 does not need to be large DT2 can reserve only the large and disputed decisions for DT1


Correlation doesn't imply causation, just because they're early adopter, that doesn't mean they're rich. There are some stories of early adopter who lost their coins or wish they didn't spend their coin carelessly.

Even lower-class and middle-class citizens are allowed to be politician, why can't they become DT1 as well?

I'm not sure a politician is a good comparison. Also I am always willing to donate my time to ensure the forum is a better place.
Discussing whether a long and clean trust history,  proven net worth,  huge reputation and achievements here and being free on any evidence of financially motivated wrong doing all all ever along with many other sensible factors would be sensible criteria for DT1 position is exactly the debates meta is designed for.

On this thread though let's for now stick to answering is a member  that

1. Is now a proven liar.
2. Has been proven to take orders from other DT members that have huge amounts of documented dirt on them.
3. Is giving trust includes out to people directly after they refuted his sponsors flags that he lied about asking other people to do the same .
4. Is documented to on several occasions  write about child sex abuse on this forum.
5. Includes on his trust list those that have undeniably been busted lying scamming and implicated in extortion. Trust abuse is also a strong issue.

Is this a suitable DT1?

If you wish to refute or request details after reviewing the lfcbitcoin threads on rep at the top now then do so 

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CMIIW, but do you imply that no one should be on DT1? If someone have 100 BTC or more, i'm sure they'll touch it.

It's not PoS or master node scheme where you get reward from freezing your money for some time.

If they need to touch it they are not wealthy enough to inspire confidence enough to be on DT1.
This is the birth place of bitcoin. 100 btc is only a huge sum to those that are not original or early supporters.

You can not have people on DT1 that are short of btc. Their need for increasing btc via sigs and other means will create a strong conflict of interest.

BCA - on the contrary those that have made their fortunes on here should be those that give back their time.
Dt1 does not need to be large DT2 can reserve only the large and disputed decisions for DT1
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Hi Cryptohunter, Wouldn't it be better if you posted from you main account?

Being elder member in the forum shouldn't automatically make one trustworthy.
And how many people who have a minimum of 100 untouched BTC do you know still have time for the forum and doing the work of detecting and tagging scammers?
Come on, let's be realistic.
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I note so many liars, decievers and scammers infesting DT1 and DT2?
I don't know, did you? What's with all these questions?

Look, if there are such users it should be resolved within system, you just have to point such accounts and tell everyone your concerns, don't go all the way around.
On topic please.
Report off topic posts to moderator if that bothers you, but as you can see, probably no one from users above really knows what the fuck you are talking about.

The op has been here since 2012 (apparently) but can't find the edit button anywhere: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54984425

@op could you just stick to one active thread, it'd help everyone understand what's going on much better. You can lock this one in the bottom left if you like.

Also the edit button should be visible in the top right of your posts if you want to transfer stuff across.


Completely separate discussions. One is discussing the suitability of a proven liar and scammer on DT1.
The other is discussing whether presenting indisputable truths that have serious implications for honest members and inviting investigation means you warrant being punished.

If you have read both threads and reviewed the links and still are unable to make a distinction then I feel you have done your best. I appreciate your help good member.
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I note so many liars, decievers and scammers infesting DT1 and DT2?
I don't know, did you? What's with all these questions?

Look, if there are such users it should be resolved within system, you just have to point such accounts and tell everyone your concerns, don't go all the way around.
On topic please.
Report off topic posts to moderator if that bothers you, but as you can see, probably no one from users above really knows what the fuck you are talking about.

The op has been here since 2012 (apparently) but can't find the edit button anywhere: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54984425

@op could you just stick to one active thread, it'd help everyone understand what's going on much better. You can lock this one in the bottom left if you like.

Also the edit button should be visible in the top right of your posts if you want to transfer stuff across.
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