Topic: Should confirmed liars with close links to other liars and scammers be on DT1? - page 2. (Read 504 times)

You claim that you know of no liars or deceiver on DT1 and DT2? You have not reviewed or seen evidence to support such a statement?
Are you sure?

Lets start with an on topic example.

Read it.



You would need to ask suchmoon about the misrepresenting or deception he removed his trust in lfcbitcoin  for.
There is no speculating or groundless accusations. The above member is lying or just talking rubbish.

Dt1 are a nefarious bunch of colluding scammers or incompetent fools.
Presenting evidence that DT1 members are telling lies and trying to use negative and positive enforcement to lure or force collusion for companies they work for is bitching about the default trust system?
If you mention these facts then they shift focus to who is presenting the facts as if that somehow could invalidate facts or events that a tone can confirm for themselves.

Cryptohunter is every single new member who either discovers new evidence of lying or scamming  by default trust members?
Perhaps I must be them then.  I will be who you want me to be. But marlboroza wants me to be you the pharmacist.

Then again you could just fucking review the evidence and answer the question rather than trying to excuse or sneak out of it.
Do you see the confirmed lie there the pharmacist ? Answer ?

DT polices itself, and I'm familiar with the issue you're referring to.  Last I checked, there wasn't strong evidence that the above actually happened the way you described it.  If more facts come to light about it and there's some shenanigans uncovered, that member will likely be voted out of DT.

If DT had standards of inclusion like that, you'd probably wind up with a list of members who aren't active anymore, and the net result would be a useless system.  The trust system is very far from perfect, but unless Theymos does a major overhaul we've all just got to deal with it the way it is.  My guess is that he's probably made all the changes he's going to make for a while.

Kind of does, doesn't it?  And I thought we'd seen the last of him--I'd hoped that, anyway.  It was so nice and peaceful for at least two months, and now here we are again with a disgruntled member bitching about the default trust system.

Joking aside, you have no concrete proof but only speculations and baseless accusation. Some DTs here some DTs there, where is the proof good sir? Before you make an absurd statement, please provide evidences that might help your cause THEN we, member of the community, might consider your claims.

Oh, another bitcointalk quiz.
I don't know, did you? What's with all these questions?

Look, if there are such users it should be resolved within system, you just have to point such accounts and tell everyone your concerns, don't go all the way around.
Report off topic posts to moderator if that bothers you, but as you can see, probably no one from users above really knows what the fuck you are talking about.

On topic please.
The lies are confirmed by personal messages revealed. There is no argument or doubt about what a lie is. Or are you not clear?
A lie or deception for financial gain as you say is often also deemed to be scamming.
The standards of this forum have plummeted drastically from 2011
I don't even see more than a couple of DT from before 2012
It is clearly a conflict of interests and high risk to have those needing to whore sigs on DT1

So are confirmed liars and those trying to cajole and request others collude with their sponsors positive flag results suitable for DT1?
It is entirely irrelevant who asks this question. I can be however you would like me to be. Just assume that I am if that will cause you to shut the fuck up about the irrelevant crap and focus on the topic.
If confirmed liars and scammers are on DT1 and you enabled this then I hope you will be found complicit and legally held responsible if they pull a very large scam and being DT1 was deemed to be used as an enabling factor.
Previously some DT did pull some large scams although they have attempted to repay.
To any member believing this is not a topic for meta then please explain where else such a critical point could be discussed.the ramifications for this entire forum are clearly evident. 

Sounds like another Account from CH / TOAA to me !

Same complaining as always about DT1 and DT2 with the same content.
The only thing thats new there is not a text wall as we are know it .
So why you are not posting with your real Account ?
Oh wait , yes scared for possible get tagged from others ! 

Why are you following default trust anyway, make your own trust list or just make it blank...

You're better off reading reports and references then having an elitist system. Default trust is intended for noobs... Well its debatable how well both systems have worked so is every possible system in existence, if you put humans in charge they're going to make mistakes.

If you disagree with users on DT1 or DT2, show some effort to contribute to the community, grow your account and grow your reputation until you are DT1 yourself and you can vote as much users out / in as you want. That is called democracy and so far this system is working as intended by theymos.

Because trust isn't moderated, no whatsoever. How could you define liars and deceivers in the forum? I mean scamming can be concluded.

I can still see old forum members here. I don't know where that knowledge came from that to be included on DT1 they signs BTC and whatevs, but I think that's not the point they should be on DT1, I suppose. By the way, this doesn't belong here, move this to Reputation board.

I note so many liars, decievers and scammers infesting DT1 and DT2?
This latest issue with Dt1 members being caught red handed lying to the forum and using trust inclusions and PMs telling people they have sent money to collude with them to prevent flags for companies they shill for is disgusting.
Should theymos start to fix these gaping holes or punish those exploiting them for selfish reasons?
Why are those caught scamming and lying and deceiving for financial reward allowed to remain on DT?
Where did all the old forum members go?
DT1 should consist of elder members than can sign btc wallets containing 100 BTC minimum that are never touched.  They should also have no affinity or sponsorship from any company. They should have been here since 2012 or 2014 minimum.
They must have zero occasions of any financially dangerous actions in the entire history.
DT1 is meant to inspire trust not be an elite scammers club.
Thanks dear friends for listening to my words.