Should Employers Screen Applicants for Problem Gambling Before Employment?

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Quote from: Quidat on August 26, 2022, 07:57:30 PM

Quote from: adzino on August 26, 2022, 07:49:55 PM

I don't think employers are able to screen for gambling problems. How would they be able to do that? Waste of time and resources for them. It is not like someone steals money from the company everyday to feed their gambling addiction. They can't screen their employees, but I am pretty much sure that if they somehow gets to know about their gambling problem (even if they don't steal money from the company), they will get into trouble and likely lose their job.

Totally a waste of time because you cant know if those applicants would be telling the truth or not once you do ask them for some personal things like hobbies or any activities that they are involved with.
The way on where people could be caught up on doing gambling activities is on the time that they've been already get hired and then doing all of those things which there's someone could
make out some report but knowing previous or things in life before getting the job is impossible.Everything could really be denied if they wanted to.

I believe you, there no way an applicant will disclose this kind of information knowing that he will not be getting the position once the hiring officers know his gambling background, they will surely denied things and the only way that it can be revealed is when problem start to show up, but if there's nothing that will affect the employee's job role there's nothing that the company should held them responsibility.

It's their life, and it's outside the business, unless, again, if there's any effect with the job and the company.

Employers can quickly terminate the employee, it's part of their right when proven that there's a problem with the person involve.

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Quote from: virasog on August 27, 2022, 01:02:22 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 24, 2022, 01:30:26 PM

I'd like to know your thoughts - Do you think that employers should screen potential employees for problem gambling before employment?

The issue here is that there is no way to confirm if the employees are gambling addicts or not. Since there is no need to register officially at the gambling site and gambling sites do not share the KYC details, the employees can very easily get this screening bypassed by hiding the fact that they are gambling addicts.
Yes, once they are hired, then people can get to know more about them, their habits, etc but it is difficult to find out whether a person is a gambling addict or not, before the hiring.

Maybe the company will know more about its employees when they have been working for the company for a while because usually once a month or every few months, there will be free time for all employees to enjoy a family atmosphere. From there, each employee can chat freely without having to discuss work, and that's where they can find out what each worker's hobbies are. But if they were in the same division, they would probably know each other faster because there would be chats about various things, including personal matters.

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This is not a new phenomenon, but did you know that workers sometimes steal not to gamble, but because it is a part of them, and they are recognized to be kleptomaniacs.
Is there any privacy you preserve if you work for a corporation that requests your data and credentials? You've given them virtually your whole career as a curriculum vitae, including your school qualifications. If that guarantees a job, I don't see why you shouldn't take a gambling test as long as it doesn't contradict any of your beliefs.

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Quote from: adzino on August 26, 2022, 07:49:55 PM

I don't think employers are able to screen for gambling problems. How would they be able to do that? Waste of time and resources for them. It is not like someone steals money from the company everyday to feed their gambling addiction. They can't screen their employees, but I am pretty much sure that if they somehow gets to know about their gambling problem (even if they don't steal money from the company), they will get into trouble and likely lose their job.

That is what would likely happen, but if I know about my worker that is addicted to gambling, I will indirectly advice him, the best to do is to sake him, but I won't, I would more focus in making sure the inflow and outflow of money is well supervised in a way he would know that I could know as fast as possible if anyone make some manipulations. What I would be more concerned about is if the employee is productive and hardworking. Not only gambling addicts can scam you because of money problem they are having, there are other reasons people can scam you.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 24, 2022, 01:30:26 PM

I'd like to know your thoughts - Do you think that employers should screen potential employees for problem gambling before employment?

The issue here is that there is no way to confirm if the employees are gambling addicts or not. Since there is no need to register officially at the gambling site and gambling sites do not share the KYC details, the employees can very easily get this screening bypassed by hiding the fact that they are gambling addicts.
Yes, once they are hired, then people can get to know more about them, their habits, etc but it is difficult to find out whether a person is a gambling addict or not, before the hiring.

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Quote from: adzino on August 26, 2022, 07:49:55 PM

I don't think employers are able to screen for gambling problems. How would they be able to do that? Waste of time and resources for them. It is not like someone steals money from the company everyday to feed their gambling addiction. They can't screen their employees, but I am pretty much sure that if they somehow gets to know about their gambling problem (even if they don't steal money from the company), they will get into trouble and likely lose their job.

Totally a waste of time because you cant know if those applicants would be telling the truth or not once you do ask them for some personal things like hobbies or any activities that they are involved with.
The way on where people could be caught up on doing gambling activities is on the time that they've been already get hired and then doing all of those things which there's someone could
make out some report but knowing previous or things in life before getting the job is impossible.Everything could really be denied if they wanted to.

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I'd like to say that what I do in my personal time is my business and should an employer ask that, it's not something that she be worried about, just answer. Although just like every employer, their major concern is to know if you truly can handle the task, if you discipline enough to abide by rules. It's just that most gamblers find it difficult to keep inside that need to gamble the moment they are faced with money..
I think some employers would only screen the potential employee for a gambling problem only if they've had such a prior experience with past workers

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I don't think employers are able to screen for gambling problems. How would they be able to do that? Waste of time and resources for them. It is not like someone steals money from the company everyday to feed their gambling addiction. They can't screen their employees, but I am pretty much sure that if they somehow gets to know about their gambling problem (even if they don't steal money from the company), they will get into trouble and likely lose their job.

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2022, 07:21:30 PM

Quote from: Porfirii on August 26, 2022, 07:12:24 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2022, 06:08:41 AM

If their products is related with something useful or which can be called as collectors item then maybe its good to include the gambling addiction screen so that they can make sure that their employees is in good state of mind. Because sometimes having this issues is really a huge problem not only with the company but also with their fellow employee since those guys can disturb the harmonious workplace on the company.

Maybe because of the risk of these collectibles ending up being stolen by the addict? I guess that in every business where, by definition, there will be some money or value attached, the risk is there. But the employer has not the right to ask about addictions in many jurisdictions, the same as asking for political/religious/ideological/sexual inclinations, or if you want to have a baby soon or not.

If they were involved in a crime then yes, but info only about gambling addiction with no crimes attached I don't think they can ask it.

Depends on certain conditions because if a person have bad habits which could lead to destruct something or create something bad ambience to your company then I think its the right for some employer to include this as their selections. Would not hire rather if a person have certain condition because its hard to trust those kind of people especially if they are addicted to much on gambling because we know they are capable to do bad things just to gamble.

Unfortunately, some won't disclose their gambling habits during their application.
And who would have done so? So sometimes, even the company will screen their applicants, it won't show yet.
But they will observe the effect of gambling while the employee is already working inside the company.
They can either give a warning or just terminate the employee, if they will see possible issues coming up.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 24, 2022, 01:30:26 PM

I am becoming increasing concerned with the extent some employees with gambling addiction go to satisfy their addiction. That is, some of these employees go as far as defrauding, and stealing from their employers and go ahead to gamble with the money. Some time ago, a close buddy of mine narrated how he caught his colleague adjusting the sales records after removing some cash. After he confronted him, the colleague confessed that he usually use the money for betting. Below are several similar cases.

It's companies' privilege and prerogative it's not that they are discriminating against their applicants but employers can justify this by telling people that it's for the protection of the company, some companies have contracts that their employers should not be involved in specific activities while they are employed and this is legal to protect their company and their status in the industry, it's not only gambling but on many activities that are related to your company policy, employees are part of company values you can't separate it as long as you are employed and under contract.

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Quote from: Porfirii on August 26, 2022, 07:12:24 AM

Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2022, 06:08:41 AM

If their products is related with something useful or which can be called as collectors item then maybe its good to include the gambling addiction screen so that they can make sure that their employees is in good state of mind. Because sometimes having this issues is really a huge problem not only with the company but also with their fellow employee since those guys can disturb the harmonious workplace on the company.

Maybe because of the risk of these collectibles ending up being stolen by the addict? I guess that in every business where, by definition, there will be some money or value attached, the risk is there. But the employer has not the right to ask about addictions in many jurisdictions, the same as asking for political/religious/ideological/sexual inclinations, or if you want to have a baby soon or not.

If they were involved in a crime then yes, but info only about gambling addiction with no crimes attached I don't think they can ask it.

Depends on certain conditions because if a person have bad habits which could lead to destruct something or create something bad ambience to your company then I think its the right for some employer to include this as their selections. Would not hire rather if a person have certain condition because its hard to trust those kind of people especially if they are addicted to much on gambling because we know they are capable to do bad things just to gamble.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 26, 2022, 04:28:20 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 26, 2022, 10:41:00 AM

I mean it's really difficult to screen for that but anything criminal will come out in any background check. Whether gbling related or not I think most reputable jobs will do a background check. If I'm hiring someone with extensive gambling criminal history they ain't getting hired.

I guess most applications includes paperworks from FBI or any police records.
Exhausting yourself in finding out on whether or not your applicant is a gambler or not maybe pointless.
That's his private and personal stuff anyway as long as it will not affect his performance and productivity then I guess all employers will be cool for that.
You can fire him eventually if you noticed a huge decline of his productivity because he's affected by his vices already anyway.

Being a gambler is out of the question, he can get hired if he met all the requirements but if a person is found to be a gambling addict, then that is a different story. Because being an addict already lost their control over themselves, thus, it will greatly affect their performance. Though I agree that asking employee directly is somehow unethical but it can't be helped if the position needs a person who has no history of gambling addiction. Else, if the position doesn't concern even a person is a gambling addict then there is no use in asking the applicant about his gambling directly

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Quote from: South Park on August 26, 2022, 04:49:17 PM

Quote from: Wakate on August 26, 2022, 03:47:26 PM

Even though employees do not have gambling addictions during the time of employment, this can be grown over time with consistent gambling activities of employees whereby they keep participating in gambling. Gambling is just like a spirit that can influence anyone with time if they keep friends that are always gambling every time or being in a place where there are frequent gambling activities.
I thing maybe it will be good for employers to screen workers to keep account of the nature of gambling urge. Everyone can falls being a victim of gambling addiction with time.

While it is true that anyone can fall into addiction, it is also true that people have different levels of susceptibility to it, there are many people which can gamble or drink alcohol in a responsible manner, however there is a minority that are unable to control their impulses and develop a self-destructive behavior when doing one of those two activities and they become addicted, it is because of this we need to always be alert and see if we are developing some problems dealing with our behavior when we are doing an activity which has bigger chances to produce that self-destructive behavior on people.

Honestly it can be very hard for someone to know that they are quickly developing an habit that could pose a thread to our lives later on because bad habit is something we quickly become addicted to without much pressure. It can be easily noticed in others if they find a bad habit in us but can be difficult for us know that we are developing an addiction that could affect us later.

Everything depends on how we see it and we should always ensure that we screen our characters everytime to know when we are doing the wrong or right thing. You know that addiction can be difficult to leave if care is not taken

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Quote from: Wakate on August 26, 2022, 03:47:26 PM

Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2022, 06:08:41 AM

If their products is related with something useful or which can be called as collectors item then maybe its good to include the gambling addiction screen so that they can make sure that their employees is in good state of mind. Because sometimes having this issues is really a huge problem not only with the company but also with their fellow employee since those guys can disturb the harmonious workplace on the company.

Even though employees do not have gambling addictions during the time of employment, this can be grown over time with consistent gambling activities of employees whereby they keep participating in gambling. Gambling is just like a spirit that can influence anyone with time if they keep friends that are always gambling every time or being in a place where there are frequent gambling activities.
I thing maybe it will be good for employers to screen workers to keep account of the nature of gambling urge. Everyone can falls being a victim of gambling addiction with time.

While it is true that anyone can fall into addiction, it is also true that people have different levels of susceptibility to it, there are many people which can gamble or drink alcohol in a responsible manner, however there is a minority that are unable to control their impulses and develop a self-destructive behavior when doing one of those two activities and they become addicted, it is because of this we need to always be alert and see if we are developing some problems dealing with our behavior when we are doing an activity which has bigger chances to produce that self-destructive behavior on people.

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Quote from: Oasisman on August 26, 2022, 04:28:20 PM

Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 26, 2022, 10:41:00 AM

I mean it's really difficult to screen for that but anything criminal will come out in any background check. Whether gbling related or not I think most reputable jobs will do a background check. If I'm hiring someone with extensive gambling criminal history they ain't getting hired.

I guess most applications includes paperworks from FBI or any police records.
Exhausting yourself in finding out on whether or not your applicant is a gambler or not maybe pointless.
That's his private and personal stuff anyway as long as it will not affect his performance and productivity then I guess all employers will be cool for that.
You can fire him eventually if you noticed a huge decline of his productivity because he's affected by his vices already anyway.

You could really make out some warnings first as an employer and not making out some immediate firing of employees just because of one mistake.Give them some chance and if the time that they do still failed out
on following on whats you had instructed or simply with those second chance then this is the time you would really be making out some ultimatum.Playing gambling or any hobbies on a particular person is really just
that a personal kind of thing.Whether you do engage yourself with gambling or not it wont really be their business.Its true that this would really be talking about productivity because this is the primary
concern on why we do hire up people on a company and not to make out some involvement or trying to get some personal intent on stirring up personal things on someones life.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on August 26, 2022, 10:41:00 AM

I mean it's really difficult to screen for that but anything criminal will come out in any background check. Whether gbling related or not I think most reputable jobs will do a background check. If I'm hiring someone with extensive gambling criminal history they ain't getting hired.

I guess most applications includes paperworks from FBI or any police records.
Exhausting yourself in finding out on whether or not your applicant is a gambler or not maybe pointless.
That's his private and personal stuff anyway as long as it will not affect his performance and productivity then I guess all employers will be cool for that.
You can fire him eventually if you noticed a huge decline of his productivity because he's affected by his vices already anyway.

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2022, 06:08:41 AM

If their products is related with something useful or which can be called as collectors item then maybe its good to include the gambling addiction screen so that they can make sure that their employees is in good state of mind. Because sometimes having this issues is really a huge problem not only with the company but also with their fellow employee since those guys can disturb the harmonious workplace on the company.

Even though employees do not have gambling addictions during the time of employment, this can be grown over time with consistent gambling activities of employees whereby they keep participating in gambling. Gambling is just like a spirit that can influence anyone with time if they keep friends that are always gambling every time or being in a place where there are frequent gambling activities.
I thing maybe it will be good for employers to screen workers to keep account of the nature of gambling urge. Everyone can falls being a victim of gambling addiction with time.

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Quote from: ultrloa on August 26, 2022, 06:08:41 AM

If their products is related with something useful or which can be called as collectors item then maybe its good to include the gambling addiction screen so that they can make sure that their employees is in good state of mind. Because sometimes having this issues is really a huge problem not only with the company but also with their fellow employee since those guys can disturb the harmonious workplace on the company.

Nope, I kinda disagree with your opinion on this one. Other than if gambling would be a conflict of interest on the company, I see no other reason why a company would do a gambling screening to their employees and applicants.

There's already a background check being done for applicants and I think that would be enough as a screening for them. Also, not only gambling addiction could cause such an employee do such a thing against the company.

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every sector or every company in it there will certainly be some of them who gamble and go undetected. because they are more likely to cover up their gambling habits. Screening applicants whether they are gambling or not will be difficult to do, as they are good at covering it all up.
Even at first they didn't gamble but after work they started to gamble. This is also the result of various kinds of pressure from work or other problems, gambling is used as an outlet to relieve stress. especially now gambling is very easy to access, no need to come to the casino, just open the smartphone screen and visit gambling sites, everything can be accessed easily and payments are made easily and quickly. so there is no point in screening applicants to gamble or not. all will be caught third there are cases as described in this thread.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on August 24, 2022, 01:38:07 PM

I've applied for several jobs so far at different places and no one has asked me if I like gambling or anything like that. I only got questions about what my hobbies are and what I can do as other skills, it makes a lot more sense to me than anything else.

A trick question is what's bad about you, it's a gray question to tell them about all our bad behavior so far. So basically they don't ask if we gamble or not, but every company wants employees who are honest and well behaved both outside and in the workplace.

True, Employers wouldn't really ask straight questions about bad things about their applicants since they can't expect the applicants to answer honestly because it can affect their application to the job they are applying. They would just cover up with indirect questions that can reveal your bad behavior and history. I believe that there will be no employers asking the question of being an addict to their applicants unless they are on a gambling business.

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