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Quote from: qwertyup23 on August 25, 2022, 11:40:24 AM

Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 24, 2022, 12:52:01 PM

I feel like this is too much and its against basic human rights. You may think I am exaggerating this but think about this: People's hobbies are their private life outside working life. If you don't mix each other and mess your life you should be freely do anything you want. And all these so called scammer gamblers are scammers at first, gamblers at second. Being gambler doesn't automatically turn you into scammer/fraud. It is about personality.

There has to be some sort of balance in knowing the private hobbies of the person and their respective interests to the company.

Regardless, I think companies should not mandatorily infringe the privacy of their employees just because they gamble. Even if they have such hobbies but they still meet the expectations of the company, then I see no reason for these employers to screen their applicants. This should only be done if their output is hindered due to the intense and extreme causes of gambling addiction.

As much as this is favourable to the employee, employers should not screen but rather promote a healthy workspace that encourages different lifestyles. They should, in no case, meddle with their private affairs.

In most cases, company that have a strict background checking will be asking for this kind of information but like you I also don't agree
that employee should be asked regarding to this kind of private information, sort of hobby or a part of being entertained. If the person still meets the qualification, just allow him to fill the position and let him do his work.

Personal life should be taken a part from the business side, interfere only if there's already a problem that occurs which affecting the employee functionally around the company.

otherwise, if he's not being affected, then let him do whatever he wants he deserve the salary and it's on him to where to take it.

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This is not only related to gambling, people often stole their company money in different forms and for various reasons but people who did for to satisfy their gambling urge may not even close to 0.1% of all the reasons we get from thise employees once they get caught. Employers should have better financial structure to avoid these kind of actions from employees.

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Since that sound very vague and depend on what kind of people think about it. Some even consider one or two bets per week is a problem. Of course not, it was a very harmless and typical trick for HR to nitpick you and reduce your wage on the employment. I didn't realize HR can not cite "Problem Gambling" to shit on your CV for jobs. So what? We're on the same level of homeless or druggie now?

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I think many workers or employees are involved in gambling, especially online gambling, and most of them only use their own money from salary.
to ask or some kind of interview to ask questions related to gambling I don't think they will be honest because it's their right, and only stupid workers or employees who commit theft or fraud in financial matters are taken to play gambling. And if I were their employer or boss, I would fire them and that would be the next lesson not to waste their work and not make the same mistakes.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 24, 2022, 12:30:26 PM

I'd like to know your thoughts - Do you think that employers should screen potential employees for problem gambling before employment?

I feel like there's no need for employers to do that even though there's a possibility for problem gambling to affect their employees it's still unlikely they'd destroy their reputation and career when the downside is much bigger compared to the little upsides they'd get if they decide to go there. For me if my employees are doing well regardless of the problem they have with gambling then it shouldn't be brought up unless it's starting to affect their performance in work as well.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 24, 2022, 12:52:01 PM

I feel like this is too much and its against basic human rights. You may think I am exaggerating this but think about this: People's hobbies are their private life outside working life. If you don't mix each other and mess your life you should be freely do anything you want. And all these so called scammer gamblers are scammers at first, gamblers at second. Being gambler doesn't automatically turn you into scammer/fraud. It is about personality.

There has to be some sort of balance in knowing the private hobbies of the person and their respective interests to the company.

Regardless, I think companies should not mandatorily infringe the privacy of their employees just because they gamble. Even if they have such hobbies but they still meet the expectations of the company, then I see no reason for these employers to screen their applicants. This should only be done if their output is hindered due to the intense and extreme causes of gambling addiction.

As much as this is favourable to the employee, employers should not screen but rather promote a healthy workspace that encourages different lifestyles. They should, in no case, meddle with their private affairs.

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If I own a company and my employee is a gambler I don’t really care but it depends on the position the person is heading in my company. If the employee is in charge of account section them definitely I will screen the employee out, I can’t really risk my funds with a gambler, have seen gambler’s doing illegal things just to make money to gamble, am talking from expensive, have seen people steal just because of money, so I can’t risk my money but if the gambler is not in account section then I don’t have problem with that.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on August 24, 2022, 12:49:12 PM

The best is for the employers to take care of their business by making sure that no employee steal their money, gambling addicts are difficulty to know, if they want you not to know.

I think some game companies have done some restriction for their workers, they stop them from playing the games but to only concentrate on staking for the customers. This really works because no matter how they are tempted to stake for themselves, they look at the rules of not playing by themselves and this limit their involvement in the games which will also discourage them from playing with the company's money. The penalty for betting by employees is an immediate sake from the job if caught.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 24, 2022, 12:30:26 PM

I'd like to know your thoughts - Do you think that employers should screen potential employees for problem gambling before employment?

I don't think that will be necessary to do because a lot of gambling addicts do most of their gambling online only a few do it offline or physically. It will also be seen as an embarrassment to the employee as gambling is something that has to do with their personal lives, the only thing I would suggest in this case is to check their curriculum vitae then the company wishing to employ such a person can make a private investigation just to be sure if the person they wish to employ have good records it must not be based on gambling addiction.

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If I were applying for a position that is directly handling money for the company, perhaps I am subject to such screenings. But if my tasks do not include handling any money for the company whatsoever, I don't think this should matter to them at all. I am there to work for them and be paid, and whatever I do with my salary afterwards is not of their concern so long as I do not tarnish or use their name to associate with my activities.

Employers should not treat their employees as if they own them. That's not how it works.

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I think it's important because this can cause job-related conflict in the future especially if an employee is really addicted to gambling. That doesn't mean that his not fit and needs to seek professional help first. If the interviewer would get to ask any gambling related questions, he should not ask them directly because it might offend the applicant. He should ask it in a good manner.

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Quote from: virasisog on August 25, 2022, 10:12:54 AM

I don't think employers must ask such a thing unless the job description is related to finance. As long as the job description doesn't include the financial management of the company, I don't think asking about that private matter would be important. As long as the employee is providing a good service and gives his best performance at work, his gambling background doesn't have to be a big deal.

If he's in finance jobs relation, it will be easier for him to corrupt the company funds. But the other jobs that doesn't have relation with finance could make a behind agreement with the finance jobs and he will get money to gamble.

I think a good and healthy employee must not have any gambling problem because you wouldn't know what they will do if they're already familiar with your company and close enough with other employees.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on August 24, 2022, 12:47:12 PM

One big question, HOW?

Most of the people who are gambling, especially gambling online really make their activity is private. Makes nobody, even their closer friend don't know do a gambling and someone who got addiction always keep their problem secret until there has some problem of their financial (Got some debts).

That's really hard to find out if the prospective applicant is a compulsive gambler but the company can sign the applicant to disclosure contract that if they find out that he is into gambling he will voluntary resign, the company should still do an investigation on the character of the applicant especially if he's holding a sensitive position on their finances, its easy to check on physical casinos but hard on online casinos.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 25, 2022, 09:22:03 AM

Quote from: Mauser on August 25, 2022, 02:20:32 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on August 24, 2022, 09:38:15 PM

Yes, just as employers should also carefully screen applicants for other possible mental disorders. There is a reason why potential employees have to go through different levels of neurological and psychological exams before being accepted for a certain job. There is a reason why series of interviews and background checks will have to be conducted on a job candidate. This isn't only for the employer to successfully pick the best person. This is also to keep the company safe and secured.

I remembered there was a huge company in my country that went bankrupt and closed after decades of operation because of an employee who's addicted to gambling.

Having said this, monitoring and screening should be done not just to potential employees but also to current employees.

I understand your concern that companies need to protect themselves as much as possible, but this should always be a trade off against the privacy rights of the employees. Should a company really know everything we do in our free time and that on a continuous basis? What if you go one week per year with your buddies on a man only trip to Las Vegas to have some fun? This could have series consequences if your employer knows it, even if it doesn't affect the work performance at all. In my opinion should all jobs that handle money have atleast one layer of supervision to protect itself from theft. But only targeting gamblers seems a bit excessive, I think there are many thieves who are not gamblers.

I agree with Mauser here
we shouldn't normalize giving up privacy rights, it's a slope that is hard to revert once we do
if a person has a gambling problem, let's say, but that doesn't affect their performance at work, why it would be an issue?

I don't think employers must ask such a thing unless the job description is related to finance. As long as the job description doesn't include the financial management of the company, I don't think asking about that private matter would be important. As long as the employee is providing a good service and gives his best performance at work, his gambling background doesn't have to be a big deal.

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Quote from: Mauser on August 25, 2022, 02:20:32 AM

Quote from: Darker45 on August 24, 2022, 09:38:15 PM

Yes, just as employers should also carefully screen applicants for other possible mental disorders. There is a reason why potential employees have to go through different levels of neurological and psychological exams before being accepted for a certain job. There is a reason why series of interviews and background checks will have to be conducted on a job candidate. This isn't only for the employer to successfully pick the best person. This is also to keep the company safe and secured.

I remembered there was a huge company in my country that went bankrupt and closed after decades of operation because of an employee who's addicted to gambling.

Having said this, monitoring and screening should be done not just to potential employees but also to current employees.

I understand your concern that companies need to protect themselves as much as possible, but this should always be a trade off against the privacy rights of the employees. Should a company really know everything we do in our free time and that on a continuous basis? What if you go one week per year with your buddies on a man only trip to Las Vegas to have some fun? This could have series consequences if your employer knows it, even if it doesn't affect the work performance at all. In my opinion should all jobs that handle money have atleast one layer of supervision to protect itself from theft. But only targeting gamblers seems a bit excessive, I think there are many thieves who are not gamblers.

I agree with Mauser here
we shouldn't normalize giving up privacy rights, it's a slope that is hard to revert once we do
if a person has a gambling problem, let's say, but that doesn't affect their performance at work, why it would be an issue?

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 24, 2022, 12:30:26 PM

I am becoming increasing concerned with the extent some employees with gambling addiction go to satisfy their addiction. That is, some of these employees go as far as defrauding, and stealing from their employers and go ahead to gamble with the money.

This is one of the good reasons why you must be an experienced inventor, CEO, or casino game founder to be able to know and understand the whole system and how its been run, some work with other reputable organization to gain this knowledge and experience beforr embarking on their own casino then employs operators, but his operators also needed to be monitored by you because all access must not be vested on them all, else they make abuse of it to their oen interest, but when you're tech savvey, that alone will make them realize that you need nkt to hesitate a legal action on them if found misbehaving, lot of people and casino owners have been deprived lots of acess to their funds in an irrecoverable manner by the employees who serves as gambling operators, let's learn to do things all by ourselves.

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OP, if I were the boss of the company then I would have screened completely because I thought it would be good for my company. It's not that I hate gamblers, but it's good if the employees I have can appreciate his hard work for something that is valuable to him, his family and others. However, I have no right to regulate other people's lives outside the context of their professionalism at work. It's his life, and that's his right but I just want them to be able to focus on work without being distracted by his gambling habits.

But there are many cases where these employees are not able to work properly after they become very bad gamblers. They lose focus on their work and can even bankrupt their owners financially. This happened to several store employees whose owners I knew all along.

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Quote from: Quidat on August 24, 2022, 05:32:45 PM

Quote from: livingfree on August 24, 2022, 05:15:16 PM

Your company, your rule.

For those companies that figuring it out what are your hobbies, they can ask questions related to gambling but let it leave to the hiring managers. They should be the one on task doing and finding out who are the addicted ones if there's any.

They can give series of exams to their applicants but in an instance, the serious severe gambling addicts can just lie on those interviews and exams if they're being asked and then they'll still be able to go through the process.

And that what makes it hard that even a company would really be having that kind of set-up which wouldnt really ensure that they could filter out gambling addicts which as been said that they could
really just simply deny that they are involved with gambling activity or simply being an addict.Its true that this is really just depending on the company owner or whether into its hiring manager
whether he would be asking this matter or would not.For companies which do involves huge money then i would understand if they would reach out into that certain extent
when it comes to these kind of questions which everyone could neither deny or accept about gambling addiction.

Well, the hiring managers could do some trick and strategies for them to have it done and do the background check if the person they're about to hire is a gambling addict or not.

That's going to make the company safe from future problems since, it's not just the reputation that's important to them but also the hiring process that is costing them money and time.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on August 24, 2022, 12:30:26 PM

I'd like to know your thoughts - Do you think that employers should screen potential employees for problem gambling before employment?

I think companies that want to accept new employees will not check for more details on the prospective employee, especially if later the new employee's position is just an ordinary employee. Although the new employee will be placed in a position related to finance, I think they will use a psychological test to see how an employee is. This is common in many companies. Maybe if the employee has worked at the company for a long time, the manager or company can discover the employee's habits to observe or suggest employees change towards self-improvement.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on August 24, 2022, 12:52:01 PM

I feel like this is too much and its against basic human rights. You may think I am exaggerating this but think about this: People's hobbies are their private life outside working life. If you don't mix each other and mess your life you should be freely do anything you want. And all these so called scammer gamblers are scammers at first, gamblers at second. Being gambler doesn't automatically turn you into scammer/fraud. It is about personality.

I agree with you, this question is too personal if a company is interviewing prospective new employees asking things like that, the problem of hobbies is fun for everyone regardless of the type of hobby, as well as the hobby of gambling.
Everyone has the right to like their respective hobbies as long as it doesn't harm other people, the company or family. the behavior of a person as described by the OP, does not reflect and identify that every gambler will commit a criminal act, a scammer/fraud. so the point is, only a small number of gamblers commit criminal acts to fulfill their addictive desires, if a worker's personality is good, then he will not commit unreasonable acts even though he likes gambling.

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