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Quote from: spartacusrex on June 23, 2016, 04:56:36 AM

There is NO WAY they will not do the hard-fork, if they do the soft-fork.

The soft fork simply stops the attacker getting the funds..

The hard fork gets ALL the ETH back.

the first without the second is pure spite.

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this whole thing is so disappointing..

Yeah it's not pure spite attempting the heist in the first place. Maybe the attacker could be made a saint just to please all you BTC Spoetniktard goon shills.

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There is NO WAY they will not do the hard-fork, if they do the soft-fork.

The soft fork simply stops the attacker getting the funds..

The hard fork gets ALL the ETH back.

the first without the second is pure spite.

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this whole thing is so disappointing..

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 22, 2016, 11:14:03 PM

Quote from: Jacques21 on June 18, 2016, 03:48:24 AM

Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.

If Ethereum does decide to do a soft fork, then a hard fork to return all investor funds. Then they might as well do this for exactly that purpose and close the platform down right after.

Imo, it's better to start from scratch with a better platform minus the security issues, the stigma and the bad rep.

The soft fork is almost certain. I am not sure about the hard fork. There is no voting about hard fork at the moment.

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So far so good

it would be very interesting to list all the consequences (technical, financial, social and even philosophical) of a fork.
I'm not tech savvy but if someone can do it?

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on June 21, 2016, 01:30:54 PM

All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders.
As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.

They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it.
There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.

The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger.
The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers.
The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.

Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.

Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.

Damn fucking right !

Which means this is all rather predictable as usual.

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Quote from: tokeweed on June 22, 2016, 11:14:03 PM

Quote from: Jacques21 on June 18, 2016, 03:48:24 AM

Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.

If Ethereum does decide to do a soft fork, then a hard fork to return all investor funds. Then they might as well do this for exactly that purpose and close the platform down right after.

Imo, it's better to start from scratch with a better platform minus the security issues, the stigma and the bad rep.

THIS !

And next time launch it fairly with out the scammy ICO bullshit they pulled.

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Oh darn. I was hoping Ethereum was going to forego the forks and let the DAO wars begin. I was looking forward to this magical ICO token moon machine go out in a blaze of glory. It could have got really interesting. The white hats and black hats could have bloated the blockchain with millions of splitDAO calls, transferring ETH all over the place. This would have been the pissing contest to end all pissing contests. Guess I'll save the popcorn for the next Game of Thrones episode.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on June 22, 2016, 10:19:17 PM

Quote from: Minecache on June 22, 2016, 04:05:11 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on June 21, 2016, 01:30:54 PM

All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders.
As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.

They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it.
There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.

The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger.
The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers.
The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.

Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.

Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.

Read an article today that said at the time of the MtGox BTC heist had the attackers been known or the address the millions in Bitcoin disappeared to a fork would have been considered. Apparently over 6 propel committed suicide over MtGox. Now imagine the blood on your BTC Spoetniktard goon shill hands if the ETH community doesn't do what it votes for.

I was there when Mt.Gox "went down" due to the so called "malleability issue" and
at no time did any Dev ever reasonably consider forking Bitcoin to return those coins.
That statement is absolute garbage and a revisionist history designed to justify what
the ETH miners and community are about to undertake.

You and your fellow voters will soon see what a mistake it was to rollback or fork.
No important lesson will be learned here. Instead ETH will perish from a self inflected wound.

The ETH rich will vote to slaughter the ETH poor and the blood will be on your hands.
Majority vote is to get their money back, so they can dump and get out.

It wasn't considered because it wasn't possible as the BTC vanished.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/ethereum-fork-it/

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Quote from: Jacques21 on June 18, 2016, 03:48:24 AM

Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.

If Ethereum does decide to do a soft fork, then a hard fork to return all investor funds. Then they might as well do this for exactly that purpose and close the platform down right after.

Imo, it's better to start from scratch with a better platform minus the security issues, the stigma and the bad rep.

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No FORK !

Just shut it down NOW !

EDIT:
Mt. Gox fat ass had said publicly that he got hacked..
Later he had his lawyer announce publicly that he found 200000 BTC in his couch on a USB drive.

The Maleability bullshit was a poor excuse..

Just like when Cryptsy cried they were hacked via that IRC exploit + Luckycoin wallet.

AKA: weak cover stories for Owner theft.

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Quote from: Minecache on June 22, 2016, 04:05:11 PM

Quote from: AgentofCoin on June 21, 2016, 01:30:54 PM

All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders.
As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.

They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it.
There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.

The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger.
The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers.
The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.

Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.

Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.

Read an article today that said at the time of the MtGox BTC heist had the attackers been known or the address the millions in Bitcoin disappeared to a fork would have been considered. Apparently over 6 propel committed suicide over MtGox. Now imagine the blood on your BTC Spoetniktard goon shill hands if the ETH community doesn't do what it votes for.

I was there when Mt.Gox "went down" due to the so called "malleability issue" and
at no time did any Dev ever reasonably consider forking Bitcoin to return those coins.
That statement is absolute garbage and a revisionist history designed to justify what
the ETH miners and community are about to undertake.

You and your fellow voters will soon see what a mistake it was to rollback or fork.
No important lesson will be learned here. Instead ETH will perish from a self inflected wound.

The ETH rich will vote to slaughter the ETH poor and the blood will be on your hands.
Majority vote is to get their money back, so they can dump and get out.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on June 21, 2016, 01:30:54 PM

All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders.
As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.

They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it.
There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.

The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger.
The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers.
The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.

Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.

Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.

Read an article today that said at the time of the MtGox BTC heist had the attackers been known or the address the millions in Bitcoin disappeared to a fork would have been considered. Apparently over 6 propel committed suicide over MtGox. Now imagine the blood on your BTC Spoetniktard goon shill hands if the ETH community doesn't do what it votes for.

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Vitalik should roll back the whole blockchain. That's the only way ether can be saved.

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Quote from: iamnotback on June 21, 2016, 02:17:19 PM

Quote from: EastSound on June 21, 2016, 02:11:12 PM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 21, 2016, 01:59:07 PM

No forks ever!

In this world, word is very weak. You need to have some physical powers to be influential. In this case, you need to have mining power.

Satoshi's design is flawed because it permits miners to vote (within the realm of profitability). I am working on a fix to that. I explained more.

Are you going to make a coin or just propose a solution? Do you think it will be implented in a existing coin?

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Quote from: EastSound on June 21, 2016, 02:11:12 PM

Quote from: iamnotback on June 21, 2016, 01:59:07 PM

No forks ever!

In this world, word is very weak. You need to have some physical powers to be influential. In this case, you need to have mining power.

Satoshi's design is flawed because it permits miners to vote (within the realm of profitability). I am working on a fix to that. I explained more.

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Quote from: iamnotback on June 21, 2016, 01:59:07 PM

No forks ever!

In this world, word is very weak. You need to have some physical powers to be influential. In this case, you need to have mining power.

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No forks ever!

Quote from: iamnotback on June 21, 2016, 01:38:05 PM

Charles, I don't think you sufficiently emphasized Bruce Fenton's points. You provided a link that seems lost in a sea of the mix of historical storytelling with a smidgen of your self-aggrandizing verbiage, so I doubt most readers even read what Bruce wrote.

Crypto is Not Politics

I keep reading arguments about how The Will of The People should decide. And how this is the only fair and equitable way. And I am here to say this is 100% retarded bullshit and any one who repeats it (and nonchalantly dismisses this!), is retarded.

What distinguishes the intention of Satoshi's block chain invention from the world we had before it, is that it eliminates politics. The technical reason is because due to the Nash equilibrium, then no one (not even mining nodes) have any fucking control.

If we destroy the Nash equilibrium with a 51% attack (aka fork) by not honoring the decentralized protocol, then we fall into a no-man's land of ambiguous interpretation and the brutality of the majority.

It is as simple as that. Either we choose to honor the code and protocol, or we go back to the depressing clusterfucked world we have before Satoshi.

Now the other problem is that BitCON is also becoming centralized because of economies-of-scale in mining. We haven't yet perfected Satoshi's invention. But that should not deter us from our ideals.

If you support forks, you violate everything Satoshi tried to do for the world.

No forks! No Blockstream forks either! Offer proof-of-burn if you want to propose new features on a new block chain, so that people are autonomous with their money.

And any arguments about empathy and intent in contract law are up against moral hazard which leads to the aforementioned clusterfuck of brutality. Don't reward retarded speculators for not doing due diligence and their derelict incapable developer idols, because they carry the mental affliction of those who want the clusterfucked world that existed prior to Satoshi's invention.

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Quote from: Jacques21 on June 18, 2016, 03:48:24 AM

Just want to see what people's opinion is on the matter.

Definitly YES! The "Hacker" has the Money not rightful deserved, i think...

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All the people who support a ETH fork are the biggest ETH/DAO bagholders.
As soon as the fork is finalized and their funds "returned" they will dump all their coins.

They are a plague upon the altcoin scene. They don't care about ETH/DAO, they invested to pump/dump it.
There is no way those ETH Whales are going to stay in the game, they want their money back and want out.

The ETH Bailout soon to come with bring ETH's destruction, not make it stronger.
The people who want the rollback are not true ETH believers, but it's destroyers.
The current ETH price and DAO price are being stabilized by gamblers and whales.

Beware what you wish for ETH miners/users.

Everyone else, grab your popcorn and watch the false prophet get dragged through the streets.

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Quote from: sadasa on June 18, 2016, 04:10:24 AM

Ethereum is still in the very early development stage. When bitcoin was in the similar status, it had several forks.

I go back and forth with using the fact that bitcoin forked several times but ETH is different and this is a direct attack prompting a possible fork which I do not think bitcoin had (correct me if I am wrong). If it forks I am against a hard fork. Hard forking in reaction to this attacker goes against decentralization.

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For those who don't seem to get it, let me put it ELI5

Libertarian Bitcoiners are not the majority who love giving up freedom for centralized security, therefore, hard forks only make the DAO grow stronger!

Ethereum/DAO is the anthesis of bitcoin because in bitcoin, there are ransom cases. Has there ever been a ransom threatened with ETH?

Bitcoin is for criminals and Ethereum is for Superheroes!

Case dismissed!

The DAO grows stronger while we speak!

http://www.coindesk.com/dao-attack-good-thing-ethereum/

The DAO grows stronger while you SLEEP!

https://steemit.com/ethereum/@etherqueen/dao-attack-is-more-than-just-an-inside-job-it-is-a-legally-planned-publicity

True Meme!

May the FORK be with you!!!

Vitalik and Taul will get their money back, in fact, they shorted it, made money, bought it back after the crash, and are pumping it as "the good guy" because they can stop the criminals that use bitcoin!!!

The hacker just explore a known flaw in the DAO. He did not contribute to the general safety of the Ehteruem.

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