If you don't ban them, the U.S. government will. And its gonna be a whole lot more messy.
This isn't really a matter of opinion so much as time.
Topic: Should IPOs be banned from the site? Poll - page 2. (Read 6777 times)
In memory of NEM, R.I.P.
They shouldn't be banned. There are some good ones sometimes and who knows which one might be the next big one?
Better idea: don't send money to zero-credibility idiots.
It is wrong that you are being forced to buy into IPO's. That's horrible. Do they put a gun to your head to make you buy in?
I fully support your view!
It is wrong that you are being forced to buy into IPO's. That's horrible. Do they put a gun to your head to make you buy in?
What do rules and regulations lead to?
The U.S. Scam dollar
If you get burned on an IPO, you get burned. If you want a legitimate IPO, ask that the person dealing the coin make himself known, write up a contract and have it signed and notarized. I'm tired of people falling for stupidity followed by screaming RULES AND REGULATIONS.
It is disgusting and I do not in any way advocate the scams that are going on, but the people running the scam are only half to blame. Do your research, know where your money is going. It's a gamble. You want a hunky dory regulated system -- Go trade in the stock market.
The U.S. Scam dollar
If you get burned on an IPO, you get burned. If you want a legitimate IPO, ask that the person dealing the coin make himself known, write up a contract and have it signed and notarized. I'm tired of people falling for stupidity followed by screaming RULES AND REGULATIONS.
It is disgusting and I do not in any way advocate the scams that are going on, but the people running the scam are only half to blame. Do your research, know where your money is going. It's a gamble. You want a hunky dory regulated system -- Go trade in the stock market.
Some people obviously cannot read.
Look at the following sentence in the first post:
"The normal Bitcoin protocol was not designed to be issued for profit, or to have a central issuing authority. It was designed to be a trust free system where others work to acquire it through mining, and for any reward to be independent of the creator."
Read the URL of the website you are posting on. This is a Bitcoin orientated website. Since IPOs do the exact opposite of what the fundamentals of Bitcoin are set to accomplish, I equate posting an IPO on this forum to be as off-topic as posting an advertisement for a bass boat.
Lol yes its a bit reminiscent of HYIP forums 
i joined this forum specifically looking for good ipos to get in on so please do not ban them!
anyone have any good recommendations for ongoing ipos? nem looks great but the ipo is over.
anyone have any good recommendations for ongoing ipos? nem looks great but the ipo is over.
This forum is like forums about HYIP (High-Yield Investment Program).
99.99% of the people are here to make only money, not to make a better world...
You need to integrate this as a perfectly normal trend in the cryptos.
99.99% of the people are here to make only money, not to make a better world...
You need to integrate this as a perfectly normal trend in the cryptos.
Don't
The first IPO I saw on this site turned out to be a scam, and the next one and then the next one. While stackcoin wins the IPO scam award. I won't be surprised IPO's account for more then 1000 BTC stolen from BTCtalk users. I'm surprised the admins of this forum don't take action to make this a safer place for newbies to learn and enjoy about cryptocurrencies.
haha only a miner can start this kind of post. ridiculous
But in my opinion we don´t need any new coins. There a enough of them, and the basics for huge projects a there soon.
Instaed of creating shitcoins think about what can you build on top of Gen 2.0 coins.
But in my opinion we don´t need any new coins. There a enough of them, and the basics for huge projects a there soon.
Instaed of creating shitcoins think about what can you build on top of Gen 2.0 coins.
IPO usually are a bad idea
But they should not be banned, because there are some good ones once in a while
But they should not be banned, because there are some good ones once in a while
most IPOs are scams 
The scammy "IPO coins" opposed often do claim they need to with-hold their source code because they don't want anyone to "steal their idea" or "steal their ideas".
Protecting ideas from being stolen is what patent is about.
If their purported idea is not patentable then there is nothing to invest in, it is worthless vapour/bullshit, it cannot be patented because it is itself stolen, or it cannot be patented because it is not an idea worth protecting, either way they don't have something to invest in really they are just bullshitting people and, at best, bring the value proposition "the mainstream is won by bullshit, see how well we are bullshitting you, buy in and we will make you rich by bullshitting everyone else or at least lots more people besides yourself".
-MarkM-
Protecting ideas from being stolen is what patent is about.
If their purported idea is not patentable then there is nothing to invest in, it is worthless vapour/bullshit, it cannot be patented because it is itself stolen, or it cannot be patented because it is not an idea worth protecting, either way they don't have something to invest in really they are just bullshitting people and, at best, bring the value proposition "the mainstream is won by bullshit, see how well we are bullshitting you, buy in and we will make you rich by bullshitting everyone else or at least lots more people besides yourself".
-MarkM-
It can be virtually impossible to get patent on a "digital invention".
They should be banned but I'm almost willing to bet they wont be.
Of course 95% are pure scams but for the rest 5% out of which 10% might return some money , people won't stop looking into IPOs
Of course 95% are pure scams but for the rest 5% out of which 10% might return some money , people won't stop looking into IPOs
Angelshares was kind of a IPO, i bought into that one - what happens remains to be seen..
NoirShares i did throw a few coins at, the same with AlterEgoCoin.
NXT i regret not putting a few satoshis into...
IPO`s are a gamble, some will be scams some will maybe have great success.
Dont invest anything you are not willing to loose, an IPO is like flipping a coin or throwing a dice.
If people dive in above their head it is pretty much their own fault, if people lack common sence they might
get scammed by a IPO but they might just as well by a new revolutionary vacuum cleaner from a door salesman for
some fantasy price.
The scammy "IPO coins" opposed often do claim they need to with-hold their source code because they don't want anyone to "steal their idea" or "steal their ideas".
Protecting ideas from being stolen is what patent is about.
If their purported idea is not patentable then there is nothing to invest in, it is worthless vapour/bullshit, it cannot be patented because it is itself stolen, or it cannot be patented because it is not an idea worth protecting, either way they don't have something to invest in really they are just bullshitting people and, at best, bring the value proposition "the mainstream is won by bullshit, see how well we are bullshitting you, buy in and we will make you rich by bullshitting everyone else or at least lots more people besides yourself".
-MarkM-
Protecting ideas from being stolen is what patent is about.
If their purported idea is not patentable then there is nothing to invest in, it is worthless vapour/bullshit, it cannot be patented because it is itself stolen, or it cannot be patented because it is not an idea worth protecting, either way they don't have something to invest in really they are just bullshitting people and, at best, bring the value proposition "the mainstream is won by bullshit, see how well we are bullshitting you, buy in and we will make you rich by bullshitting everyone else or at least lots more people besides yourself".
-MarkM-
So in summary closed source financial schemes and executables unrelated to bitcoin are appropriate here?
No "hey open the source or go file a patent then open the source then it is on topic here" ?
If you want to profit from your ideas that is what patents are for, right?
So you can open the source and still profit from it?
Software patents are maybe such an evil evil that simply allowing any old scam to be endlessly re-iterated all over the forum is maybe a far lesser evil?
Maybe allowing any and all scams is the price we must pay to avoid software patents and maybe hopefully even get rid of software patenting?
-MarkM-
No "hey open the source or go file a patent then open the source then it is on topic here" ?
If you want to profit from your ideas that is what patents are for, right?
So you can open the source and still profit from it?
Software patents are maybe such an evil evil that simply allowing any old scam to be endlessly re-iterated all over the forum is maybe a far lesser evil?
Maybe allowing any and all scams is the price we must pay to avoid software patents and maybe hopefully even get rid of software patenting?
-MarkM-
Where/how did you get this take on this conversation/thread?
I don't think anyone is saying closed source is good in any way, nor is anyone talking about being able to patent a coin. It would be really hard to patent anything at this point since it all-ready exists and if a patent were to be issued by the US then the rest of world except the US could ignore it (technically). Realistically any coin with a patent would be issued a death sentence and probably no one would use it BECAUSE of the patent.
I think you will have a 99+% agreement these go against the coin market and what/how it works.
So in summary closed source financial schemes and executables unrelated to bitcoin are appropriate here?
No "hey open the source or go file a patent then open the source then it is on topic here" ?
If you want to profit from your ideas that is what patents are for, right?
So you can open the source and still profit from it?
Software patents are maybe such an evil evil that simply allowing any old scam to be endlessly re-iterated all over the forum is maybe a far lesser evil?
Maybe allowing any and all scams is the price we must pay to avoid software patents and maybe hopefully even get rid of software patenting?
-MarkM-
No "hey open the source or go file a patent then open the source then it is on topic here" ?
If you want to profit from your ideas that is what patents are for, right?
So you can open the source and still profit from it?
Software patents are maybe such an evil evil that simply allowing any old scam to be endlessly re-iterated all over the forum is maybe a far lesser evil?
Maybe allowing any and all scams is the price we must pay to avoid software patents and maybe hopefully even get rid of software patenting?
-MarkM-
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