Topic: Should IPOs be banned from the site? Poll - page 4. (Read 6777 times)

How are those 100 Bitcoins from that IPO scam treating you?

!% premine - a few disgruntled complainers, not many people making a big deal

2% premine - immediate accusations of scamcoin

3% premine - only a true scammer like Wolong could possibly attempt such a thing

100% premine then charge you for the coin - the scam is now so large, the human brain is unable to comprehend it as a scam.

it means he wants to pre-sell you small European cars, I think, at a pre-agreed price.

I wouldn't fall for it, i'm not sure they are that good quality cars anyhow. 

Who are you really ? you joined the board in December when Bitcoin was like 1200$ and you sounded like Bitcointalk GOD looking down upon new users. Stop the non-sense.

All someone has to do is click your post history to see you're an NXT/NEM shill.  You joined the forum this month and start shilling for NXT/NEM your first day posting?  Is this a joke?  I can't read a single thread on this forum without seeing an avalanche of NXT or Quark shills.

The argument you use is ridiculous, it means people should be able to post spam ads for bass fishing boats on the forum because booting them out is preventing them from "following their beliefs".  Maybe I can call up some people and we can get a team selling Evinrude outboard motors to people in every thread.  I'm sure everyone will love that.  Maybe some other people can sell stolen credit cards to go along with the IPO scams too.  Stolen credit cards are an alternative currency, right?

This is a privately run website, that's what the free market and freedom is, being able to do whatever you want on your privately run website.  If they want to boot the scamsters out, that's their choice, if they want to let people start The Federal Reserve 2.0 on this site, that's their choice too.

if most IPO's are managed for mainly dev benefit, does that make all IPO's bad ?

what is that actually makes an IPO good or bad ?

If you don't like them fine.

This is one of the things wrong with the world. For some reason people want to force everyone else to follow their beliefs because they think they have a foolproof reason why they are correct. This so insane to me. It doesn't matter how great your reason is, it DOES NOT translate to forcing others to adopt it.

Do what you want, but leave me alone. I'm so sick of people like you in the world!!!

i disagree, i think IPOs are fine. Without them we won't have a chance to invest in great Innovative ideas like Nxt, eMunie, Ethereum and Bitshares.

You keep saying open source, but Satoshi released Bitcoin with the MIT license and ergo anyone is free to modify and distribute closed source derivatives barring other licensing concerns. So, while I do agree with the heart of what you're saying, this is not a good argument to back it up with. However, no one should be going anywhere near IPOs with little to no evidence of any actual design let alone code.

You know if people weren't interested in investing or chancing on an IPO their thread would slide away down the forum in minutes. let people do what they want. Most people who want this kind of control tend to be anal retentive and painfully controlling people on real life.

It means that it's pretty close to the system we have already. Print money, and loan it out at interest to people. Except they're just outright selling the printed money for something actually valuable.

Voted no. I'm more of a Laissez-faire kind of person. Let the market reign, and if you think an IPO is 'scammy', just don't invest in it. Or, better yet, ask the developers for more information so that you can make a reasonably well-informed decision. I definitely don't think it's our place, though, to tell other people what investments (including IPOs) should or should not be advertised in this forum. Give everyone a fair chance to seek funds for a proposed crypto-project, and people will make their own decisions about whether that project merits funding. Of course, the caveat emptor principle still reigns supreme.

Who are you? Bitcoin Police?

More scamcoins on the horizon, need more votes.

What does that even mean?

Ok, let's hypothetically assume everyone agrees with you.  You did nothing to counter my premise in the original post that an IPO is not actually needed to run a proof of stake coin.  It can be considered as nothing more than a money grab.  Even if you only ran PoW distribution for your PoS coin, for a single year, Quarkcoin style, it would still be light years better than what NXT did.

Imagine if NXT becomes the #1 coin?  We already had a book detailing the creation of the Federal Reserve entitled, "The Creature from Jekyll Island".  The book details a handful of bankers sitting down to create a money supply instantly, out of thin air, for personal gain.  You could write the exact same book about NXT IPO if it succeeded.

POW not safe,dirty and wasteful yawn

Predictably, most votes are against IPO.  The biggest flaw of the poll is that people don't have to disclose being NXT bagholders in order to vote.

Does anyone have a list of coins that have IPO'd on the site already?

Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware


 Some, even most of us, have yet to fall victim to these types of unethical IPO's.

 Why should anyone have to defend anyone else from themselves?

 After all, no one can save a fool from themselves.

 In other words: Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware


 As for the notion of bans; okay then, Let's exterminate all the useless eaters and be done with it.
Starting with those that we strongly don't agree with. right?

 In other words it's a very slippery slope. And although personally I would like nothing more than
to see the banksters and many on wall street and in the City of London given the death penalty
I will settle for clawing back all their ill gotten gains, and bailouts, and them serving life in a
work prision from the rest of their evil, rotten lives. Hence banning them from ever again doing
harm to others. But it may still be a while before enough folks scream out "Off with their evil,
rotten, dirty, slimy heads".

 Bans? Where shall we draw that invisible line? At pure PoS crypto that are merely IPO's? Because
some might be frauds?

 So we need the Crypto-Currency Police?

 So do we also need financial police and monitors throughout the entire finance sector protecting
every fool from themselves?

 Many understand the OP's points, and rational. But to ban something that isn't even known to
be fraudulent is quite a reach. Rather than that how about the death penalty for possession of
alcohol since it is in fact a deadly poison that also kills tens of thousand of innocent bystanders
each and every year. And after that we can write a much longer list in a vain attempt to legislate
morality.

 I think not. And no one can save any fools from themselves. Maybe some reflection on the matter
will help one realize that no matter what, a fool and their money is soon parted. Just like the fact
that there really is a sucker born every second or so.

 Hence, once again why I sign my posts the way I do. (to repeatedly remind reader to beware).

 And if we are going ban certain types then let's first ban the very one's that brought many of us
including Satoshi to this very place! By hanging them by the neck, till dead. In public, a dawn,
the very day after their speedy convictions.


Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware

WE NEED MORE IPOs!