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legendary
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September 06, 2018, 05:46:29 PM
#47
Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts

I think you've adapted the culture of calling the project makers as "devs" in a bounty campaign chat.  Roll Eyes
As you can see, our admins and other merit source has a lot of smerits and will definitely give those to deserving people. Make it sure you're one of them before askin' similar question here in meta. Let the higher-ups discover you and continue your work (If you know yourself you've made good posts).



People nowadays always askin' why they don't have any merits even they're a "good poster". You can check these guys listed on @Coin-1's topic and search how do they manage to earn merits. It doesn't mean you're always posting, you'll receive merits, that's wrong. Posts have their own definition and value too, if your posts was a great add-ons to a certain topic then you deserve it but if you're giving false statements and not good opinions, don't expect one. Accept the fact that you can't manage to earn merits now, but soon enough if you study really hard how the things work, you'll gain it.

Also, avoid rephrasing similar ideas because it's just making things worst, don't push yourself to make posts if you don't have any interesting things to be stated and will just rephrase again other replies. Be original.
legendary
Activity: 3654
Merit: 8909
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September 06, 2018, 03:02:58 PM
#46
Merit system supposed to be the best thing that has be introduce to this forum because it has really reduce the meaningless post. But with all due respect, the merit system never take it due process it seems as if merit is taken a dimension which I can't really explain. My opinion is that merit should be awarded by forum moderators to maintain the standard of forum rules.

Moderators are already awarding every post that "maintain(s) the standard of forum rules" by not deleting it and by not banning you. Don't expect a cookie for cleaning your room and doing your homework.
legendary
Activity: 3556
Merit: 7011
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September 06, 2018, 01:19:56 PM
#45
i don't believe it i have started ethical post since i started comment here, but i didn't get any merit point or appreciation even i don't copy paste from google. i always comment here from my humor sense. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

Your posts are utterly retarded:
my favorite exchange is crypto currency.This is a trading market
i don't believe that is the time trade is better. it's hard to realize but i can say day time trade is not a good option.
the best coin for long time invest is bitcoin because bitcoin has a bright future.
i sell my coins in ether wallet,crypto currency

...and there are tons more just like this.  Those are all asswipe; they're all in garbage spam threads; and you're a fantastic example of someone who's overvaluing his contribution to bitcointalk.  You suck, and you're going on my ignore list.
newbie
Activity: 82
Merit: 0
September 06, 2018, 01:16:06 PM
#44
i don't believe it i have started ethical post since i started comment here, but i didn't get any merit point or appreciation even i don't copy paste from google. i always comment here from my humor sense. Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed
member
Activity: 420
Merit: 24
September 06, 2018, 11:38:48 AM
#43
Are there threads that are "hotbed" for merits? If yes, may I know them and why they should be. Secondly, what is the rational behind making some sections of the thread "hotbed" for merits?

I guess you're in the right section which is Meta. Most of the people who are giving merits are in here. They won't bother giving merits to spam sections. If you want to focus more on getting merits you should be active in this section. Posts in bitcoin discussion seldom get merits.
legendary
Activity: 3556
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September 06, 2018, 11:23:49 AM
#42
Are there threads that are "hotbed" for merits? If yes, may I know them and why they should be. Secondly, what is the rational behind making some sections of the thread "hotbed" for merits?
There aren't "hotbeds" that I know of, because I don't have the statistics about which sections are having the most merits given out.  And I would suggest that it isn't about which section you're posting in but the quality of your posts.  You can't expect some 100-character post in broken-ass English to earn you merit, and I suspect that's exactly what shitposters are counting on.  From what I've seen, people tend to seriously overestimate the quality of their posts.

I think Meta might be one of the sections where merit is frequently given out, but the regular posters in it know that noobs have infiltrated it, looking for merits--and it's obvious, and it's also apparent that these noobs are not getting merited.  

So ultimately there is no "ideal section" to post in if you're looking for merits, but as I've said many times you would do well to avoid spam-infested sections like Bitcoin/Altcoin Discussion, Economics, and Speculation.  Even if you make a fantastic post in one of those, nobody is likely to read it.  On the other hand, you shouldn't be choosing where to post based on your own need for merits.

If you want to focus more on getting merits you should be active in this section. Posts in bitcoin discussion seldom get merits.
And that's basically what I just said one post above you, except I said that low-ranked members who are trying to earn merit are pretty obvious and thus it will be a waste of time for them to write their shitposts in Meta.  Bitch, you're going on ignore.
member
Activity: 280
Merit: 28
September 06, 2018, 02:28:03 AM
#41
Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts

I don`t think that this is a good idea. The merit system was invented in order to eliminate spam on the forum. And this shouldn`t be done by admins, but by the participants themselves. After all, the forum is a meeting place for tens of thousands of people who are developing this platform, making changes and organizing activities. Spam worries not only admins, but also the participants themselves. Therefore, the forum community should also fight against it.

You write your posts not for the administrator, who should praise you and give you a merit. You write them in order to take part in the discussion with other members of the forum. Therefore, recognition must be earned from them, and not from the admin, who doesn`t have time to read every post on the forum. The forum community is a self-organizing system. Its entire meaning is for the participants to feel equal and not dependent on one supreme administrator. Therefore, everyone has the opportunity to receive and give merits. And this creates a communicative fellowship that is responsible for its actions.
jr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 5
September 05, 2018, 04:32:20 PM
#40
Merit system supposed to be the best thing that has be introduce to this forum because it has really reduce the meaningless post. But with all due respect, the merit system never take it due process it seems as if merit is taken a dimension which I can't really explain. My opinion is that merit should be awarded by forum moderators to maintain the standard of forum rules.
hero member
Activity: 2366
Merit: 838
July 31, 2018, 02:05:41 AM
#39
Why the topic has not been locked or moved to other boards?
Such annoying topic should not appear in Meta board, especially more than 6 months after the start day of merit system.   Roll Eyes
newbie
Activity: 76
Merit: 0
July 30, 2018, 04:40:07 AM
#38
It should exist for sure but the some improvement are needed in current form. For instance, there should be limits of max merits allowed per post to 5 or something like that.
jr. member
Activity: 168
Merit: 1
July 30, 2018, 02:23:57 AM
#37
The new merit system might be unpopular to some, but I do believe this is the right thing to do in order to instill order in this forum. When you suddenly think "Why am I not getting too many merits?" then this is the start of your journey to better yourself and you're absolutely on the right track. Posting messages having this question in mind will make you think harder and will surely attempt to make meaningful posts worthy of merits.
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 2472
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July 30, 2018, 02:10:41 AM
#36
Yes , it's really hard to earn  merit. Not  just  posting quality post  here in btt but  I suggest  try  to create   helpful   article. I think  that is best way to earn merit and also sharing  Informative news.

I gave you a couple of merits under my cMerit project, and this will let you rank up. These are for a variety of your posts on the Bitcoin discssion board, unfortunately my visits there are very infrequent.
legendary
Activity: 2310
Merit: 4085
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July 29, 2018, 10:08:12 PM
#35
I have been writing meaningful and good quality posts since start of my journey on bitcointalk forum, but i have noticed that i have still not received appropriate number of merits. whereas some people are receiving merits for posting useless and meaningless posts because they have high position in the forum. According to me merit system is a bit partial and changes must be made to it. Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts. Please let me know your views below. No hard feelings for anyone  Smiley
Hey,
Months after the start day of merit system, you created the boring topic to ask whether the system should be existed or not.
Really?
Have you actually seen real effects of the system on forum?
Please tell me which kinds of effects you seen.
hero member
Activity: 2254
Merit: 680
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July 28, 2018, 03:59:04 AM
#34
I have been writing meaningful and good quality posts since start of my journey on bitcointalk forum, but i have noticed that i have still not received appropriate number of merits. whereas some people are receiving merits for posting useless and meaningless posts because they have high position in the forum.
This is political nepotism Grin
jr. member
Activity: 44
Merit: 10
July 28, 2018, 03:17:20 AM
#33
This system has improved the whole forum,i have been here for months and i dont really do like interacting with users as i am more good in reading and applying my knowledge in trades.The forum 7months ago is far worst than it is today which is why i strongly agree that this merit system should be permanent it is indeed unfair to new users but it will only lessen the spam in this forum which is why i am one of those people who are happy with the outcome.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
July 27, 2018, 11:39:31 PM
#32
Following hilarious' comment that your posts are not absolute garbage, you are right, merits are generally given out based on the underlying content, not the effort put into one's post. The unfortunate reality is that people generally will give out merit (with many exceptions) to posts they are in agreement with, and will withhold merit on posts they disagree with.


I also think that this is the trend.  The Merit system becomes the "like" of Facebook in which one will easily give a merit to a certain post that he agrees with.  On the other hand, he will rarely give a merit to a post that has a different opinion compare to him.

I am seeing many newbies posting quality posts in Beginners and Help Section recently but they do not receive any single merit.

Is it just me or the Merit circulation slows down at some point (and continuously slowing/dying down)?
I fear that the merit system will lead to the echo chambers that make up Facebook and Reddit.

Something absolutely needs to be done to prevent farmers from creating massive numbers of accounts with shit posts, however I don’t think the merit system as implemented is the solution.

There was an “airdrop” of merit when the merit system was first implemented and much of the merit that will be spent from that has been spent.
legendary
Activity: 2828
Merit: 2472
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July 27, 2018, 05:24:06 AM
#31

Not really. You should check the reply of the person who has credited me merits on the topic. He hasn't merited me for this post. He has gone through my profile and all my previous posts and has then credited me with appropriate merits to rank up to member. Does that seem wrong to you?

This is something that I've done in the past. There are many beneficial members who make reasonable discussion posts, but no individual post is outstanding. The forum needs members like this to preserve an active vibrant community. Sometimes it is difficult to decide on individual posts, so one just awards a block of sMerit to the latest one. In this case, I think it is useful if the awarder makes a comment to justify the award ( as was done in this case). This avoids charges of merit abuse, and it also encourages newer members who actively support the forum in a productive way.

This has given me another idea. I might start a 'newbie of the month' award of 10 merits, but it sounds like a fair bit of work. I will also need to think of an acronym for the award " Star Poster Awarded Merits" doesn't seem to be ideal. Smiley
member
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July 27, 2018, 05:02:25 AM
#30
Seeing the number of merits you got for this post, I doubt it should exist in the current form. A lot of improvements are required.

Not really. You should check the reply of the person who has credited me merits on the topic. He hasn't merited me for this post. He has gone through my profile and all my previous posts and has then credited me with appropriate merits to rank up to member. Does that seem wrong to you?
member
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Merit: 14
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July 27, 2018, 04:57:57 AM
#29
why should you care about your forum rank unless you are here to make money from signature campaigns

Does trying to rank up only means trying to earn more money with signature and bounty campaigns? Or does it also mean that you are expecting some credit from people for your contribution and hard work on forum and trying to gain some reputation and respect? and who wouldn't like to share knowledge and content on forum and plus earn some bucks from it? But its not always just about money, atleast not for me. I am trying to rank up so as to gain some importance in the forum. If i wanted to make money, i would be shit posting and spamming instead of writing constructive posts.  Smiley
legendary
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July 27, 2018, 12:57:30 AM
#28
Yes , it's really hard to earn  merit. Not  just  posting quality post  here in btt but  I suggest  try  to create   helpful   article. I think  that is best way to earn merit and also sharing  Informative news.
What you have said is correct. I will just add this in to your advice. Don't post in the megathreads so that somebody can see your "HELPFUL" article and "INFORMATIVE" news.
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