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newbie
Activity: 27
Merit: 0
July 27, 2018, 12:48:20 AM
#27
Seeing the number of merits you got for this post, I doubt it should exist in the current form. A lot of improvements are required.
member
Activity: 102
Merit: 14
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July 26, 2018, 12:10:55 PM
#26
Following hilarious' comment that your posts are not absolute garbage, you are right, merits are generally given out based on the underlying content, not the effort put into one's post. The unfortunate reality is that people generally will give out merit (with many exceptions) to posts they are in agreement with, and will withhold merit on posts they disagree with.

It is my belief that there should be incentives to make posts, and disincentives to make shit/spam posts, and to remove the current incentives that currently exist to make shit/spam posts.

edit: I reviewed your posts, and I gave you sufficient merit to rank up to "member" status.

I absolutely agree with your statement. And thank you so much for going through my posts and providing appropriate merits. Smiley
member
Activity: 395
Merit: 14
July 26, 2018, 09:31:19 AM
#25
Yes , it's really hard to earn  merit. Not  just  posting quality post  here in btt but  I suggest  try  to create   helpful   article. I think  that is best way to earn merit and also sharing  Informative news.
staff
Activity: 3304
Merit: 4115
July 26, 2018, 08:29:17 AM
#24
why should you care about your forum rank unless you are here to make money from signature campaigns

I guess it comes with other benefits. However, the vast majority are wanting to rank up for earning potential. Although, there are legitimate other reasons to want a higher rank. Especially, the lower ranked members wanting a slightly higher rank. People are oddly motivated by having a avatar for example. I guess it gives them some sort of identity.
member
Activity: 336
Merit: 42
July 26, 2018, 08:23:45 AM
#23
Following hilarious' comment that your posts are not absolute garbage, you are right, merits are generally given out based on the underlying content, not the effort put into one's post. The unfortunate reality is that people generally will give out merit (with many exceptions) to posts they are in agreement with, and will withhold merit on posts they disagree with.


I also think that this is the trend.  The Merit system becomes the "like" of Facebook in which one will easily give a merit to a certain post that he agrees with.  On the other hand, he will rarely give a merit to a post that has a different opinion compare to him.

I am seeing many newbies posting quality posts in Beginners and Help Section recently but they do not receive any single merit.

Is it just me or the Merit circulation slows down at some point (and continuously slowing/dying down)?
legendary
Activity: 2814
Merit: 2472
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July 26, 2018, 06:43:43 AM
#22
Not every member here is "doing bounties".

I believe that the forum will have to disable signatures for newbies and juniors, and to restrict their thread starting capabilities. They will have brought this on themselves, as they refuse to behave and obey the forum guidelines.
legendary
Activity: 2954
Merit: 3060
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July 26, 2018, 06:29:28 AM
#21
No I don't believe so.  It is too easy for friends and family to switch to each other different merit, therefore giving them an advantage.
It's a way to cheat and make yourself more popular on the forums.

So we remove it and instead let those same users sign up with dozens of accounts each to spam the forum into oblivion? The merit system was introduced to stop exactly that. People who farm merit or trade it to their 'friends' or family (aka alts) usually get caught and have their accounts ruined when they do so it's not really worth the risk. They'll also run out of merits to exchange very fast.

NO, the merit system not  should really exist here. The eco-system of merit is handling a lot of spam in here true ? I think no ,  even if there is merit system spam post are as much as even if there would not be merit system. as we know until jr. member no merit is required and for spam camp we just need jr. member. does this make sense ? and every member here is doing bounties and all.

It's not going to stop shitposters from spamming, but it stops them from being able to rank up from doing so and that's why it's helpful. There needs to be additional restrictions or punishments for those still spamming on campaigns as Juniors etc and for those that continue to pay them to do it.
copper member
Activity: 2996
Merit: 2374
July 26, 2018, 02:40:06 AM
#20
Following hilarious' comment that your posts are not absolute garbage, you are right, merits are generally given out based on the underlying content, not the effort put into one's post. The unfortunate reality is that people generally will give out merit (with many exceptions) to posts they are in agreement with, and will withhold merit on posts they disagree with.

It is my belief that there should be incentives to make posts, and disincentives to make shit/spam posts, and to remove the current incentives that currently exist to make shit/spam posts.

edit: I reviewed your posts, and I gave you sufficient merit to rank up to "member" status.
member
Activity: 158
Merit: 16
July 26, 2018, 02:12:38 AM
#19
It is difficult to get merits. It's intended to be difficult. Everything working fine. You have to live with it or leave this forum. Your choice...

It's not that difficult bro.You should pay attention to your post quality and contribute to forum.And don't think about merit too much, just enjoy the forum.Good luck             
member
Activity: 308
Merit: 22
July 26, 2018, 01:44:32 AM
#18
It is difficult to get merits. It's intended to be difficult. Everything working fine. You have to live with it or leave this forum. Your choice...
newbie
Activity: 7
Merit: 0
July 25, 2018, 07:45:41 PM
#17
NO, the merit system not  should really exist here. The eco-system of merit is handling a lot of spam in here true ? I think no ,  even if there is merit system spam post are as much as even if there would not be merit system. as we know until jr. member no merit is required and for spam camp we just need jr. member. does this make sense ? and every member here is doing bounties and all.
It is hard to get a merit even if you have a meaningful or Good quality in posting. They want a famous to give merit.
member
Activity: 83
Merit: 10
July 25, 2018, 05:40:59 PM
#16
I have noticed since the merit system of many members who complain about the difficulty of upgrading, getting merit is not easy because merit that we can give to others is limited. so the merit that can be obtained is also difficult. but on the other hand, the merit system also has its positive side. where spam account can no longer operate. Smiley
full member
Activity: 1442
Merit: 108
July 25, 2018, 03:58:51 PM
#15
I have been writing meaningful and good quality posts since start of my journey on bitcointalk forum, but i have noticed that i have still not received appropriate number of merits. whereas some people are receiving merits for posting useless and meaningless posts because they have high position in the forum. According to me merit system is a bit partial and changes must be made to it. Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts. Please let me know your views below. No hard feelings for anyone  Smiley

I am not sure what changes are you suggesting. Currently most of the merits come from merit sources and they are selected and monitored ( I assume ) by the admin . So the control is already with the most trusted members here.
newbie
Activity: 168
Merit: 0
July 25, 2018, 02:51:29 PM
#14
NO, the merit system not  should really exist here. The eco-system of merit is handling a lot of spam in here true ? I think no ,  even if there is merit system spam post are as much as even if there would not be merit system. as we know until jr. member no merit is required and for spam camp we just need jr. member. does this make sense ? and every member here is doing bounties and all.
full member
Activity: 853
Merit: 144
July 25, 2018, 02:42:25 PM
#13
No I don't believe so.  It is too easy for friends and family to switch to each other different merit, therefore giving them an advantage.
It's a way to cheat and make yourself more popular on the forums.
hero member
Activity: 1806
Merit: 672
July 25, 2018, 02:38:47 PM
#12
Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
Devs?  You sound like the type of person who labels anyone who's high-ranked or has a position of authority on bitcointalk as a "dev".  I don't get this.
That is how some twitbook hunters calls their bounty manager. I think it stand for developer or they have another meaning for it. I found some in ANN threads and bounties when I was reporting lately and I also used to call bounty managers "dev" before when I was a noob spammer Smiley
If that is what he meant by "devs" then we might see low ranking spammers become Sr. Members and above in no time. If we gave these bounty managers that don't care about spammers that power then we will see a flaw in the merit system. For one they are just bounty campaign managers they are not automatically qualify as a merit source, unlike the merit sources we have now which most go through the process of application just to be one.
sr. member
Activity: 826
Merit: 263
July 25, 2018, 02:15:28 PM
#11
   
Should merit system really exist? Basically no, but a solution to all the shits posts was really necessary. If there is someone to blame it's the members who abused the forum I would say. If the whole Bitcointalk community was behaving correctly then the system wouldn't be here.


I love this system this made the spam stopped from this forum when comparing before Jan 25th 2018. Before that we may see the more application on campaign side and various trashcanned topics buddy.
Then I see many people on this forum especially on the top rank and DT side many merits seems receiving for their shit posts. Hopefully those DT members will not love it to have those merits.
sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 395
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July 25, 2018, 02:06:55 PM
#10
I have been writing meaningful and good quality posts since start of my journey on bitcointalk forum, but i have noticed that i have still not received appropriate number of merits. whereas some people are receiving merits for posting useless and meaningless posts because they have high position in the forum. According to me merit system is a bit partial and changes must be made to it. Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts. Please let me know your views below. No hard feelings for anyone  Smiley

I can categorize post in three category :
1. Shit /spam post
2. Average (may be some below or some above average post)
3. Good post.

What ever the objective of this system , but it acted as a silent killer for average poster (category 2).

I just did the quick glance and might be you also fall in Category 2.

PS : Don't worry, be happy and continue what is close to your heart or you are good at. Don't try to fake yourself so that you can get some merits but do not break forum rules.
sr. member
Activity: 602
Merit: 327
Politeness: 1227: - 0 / +1
July 25, 2018, 01:37:22 PM
#9
Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
Devs?  You sound like the type of person who labels anyone who's high-ranked or has a position of authority on bitcointalk as a "dev".  I don't get this.
That is how some twitbook hunters calls their bounty manager. I think it stand for developer or they have another meaning for it. I found some in ANN threads and bounties when I was reporting lately and I also used to call bounty managers "dev" before when I was a noob spammer Smiley
hero member
Activity: 1806
Merit: 672
July 25, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
#8
Only devs and admins should have smerit and they should reward it to the people making appropriate posts.
What made you think that a few admins is better than 83 merit sources as right now that is giving at max of 19,100 sMerits per 30 days? If you are obviously thinking we have more merit sources than the admins and mods combined. So I know 19,100 at first do not look a lot but everytime a member sends 1 sMerit half of that will be received by you as a sendable sMerit. So do not mind that your posts are not receiving any merits instead concentrate more on improving your post by actually reading other posts in that thread and contributing something new.
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