Topic: Shouldn't bounty managers clean up spam posts in their thread ? - page 2. (Read 953 times)

This should be a rule in my opinion , this would be positive in several ways:
1) Keep the thread clean so that actual discussion could take place in the thread.
2)  Bots who are posting reports months after bounty have ended mos likely wont be there.

But this requires some level of google sheet skill, possibly some of the bounty managers do not have that :/

From my little experience, I have learnt that 90% of the spam in bounty threads are made by bounty managers. I have reported 3 bounty threads and preparing for another one. So, what I have learnt from those-

1. Bounty managers may get larger payments depending on overall pages. I have seen 3 bounty threads where there were thousands of bumping with at least 500 newbies accounts. Those accounts were made for only bumping threads.

2. Bounty managers payment are based on participants. The more participants are there, the more payment will be given. That's why they bump the bounty thread so that they can get eyed by participants. I have solid proof of this one.

3. Bounty managers ask people to submit reports on the thread while they can create spreadsheet and ask for submit with that. But they don't, because they need more bump for more visibility.

So, who are the ultimate responsible persons here? Definitely bounty managers. Expecting solution from them is nothing but foolish.

Disclaim: This comment is my personal view from my little experience. Not all the bounty managers are responsible but most of them are doing this shady practise.

Many bounty managers are dong their best to ensure stakes are not given to shit posters.
I have gone through many spreadsheet ,and i observed that even the legends,full members and senior members are involved in this mess.
If you go through many spreadsheet,you will see some full members ,senior members,and legend whose details are marked red on the spread sheet.
To make the matter worse,some full members and senior members run multiple accounts for one project,of which bounty managers always track them and reject them by marking their details red.
No bounty manager will like to reward shit posters.

Bounty managers should really implement their campaign with google form as an alternative for reporting in the bounty threads. This way they could help the forum from all the bounty reports posts made everyday from the bounties sections. Kudos to the OP. Appreciated and commended.

Fact!
If they really want to avoid those spammin' and shitposting people, report those accounts. If the bounty managers are accepting spammers and shitposters in his/her campaign, then he/she will face the consequence as one of the fail bounty managers. Let them be on what they're doing because we're on the step-by-step process and soon enough, no more trash posts will exist here.

Personally I don't like them but more i hate this:

As long bounty managing is their work for real money and they USE bitcointalk AS A TOOL which helps them to earn money they can be FORCEED to follow some rules....

Bounty managers are not forum moderators, why would they be responsible for cleaning up spam? Are we going to start getting paid for this? If so, please tell me where to apply.

The bounty section is entirely full of bounty reports and bounty related posts, you don't go there looking for content obviously. There is no reason to clean up the section at all since that is its exact purpose.

The problem is that even when you report a spambie membre, BMs ignore you  

What I noticed is that they don't really care about the forum and the project, all they want is to get paid for editing a spreadsheet.
That doesn't mean all bounty managers are guilty  
I worked with the best and there is no need to mention his name here.

Obviously this is a smart way to bump the threads, I think other managers have been suspended for x days thanks to this maneuver.

I am absolutely disagree. If threads will be self-moderated, it will be very difficult to discuss the project and expose scam. I've seen how deleted posts that had criticized the project. People might find out negative information too late.

The best decision is using google forms, but they must be open to keep track reports.

Here is a nice one from the PR Manager of Syscoin:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45655560

Instead of reporting the spam message (which I did in his place... ), he thanks the guy for his support.

Maybe it's better if it's required that after a week or maybe month the bounty end, the Bounty thread should be closed and any updates, issues etc will be discussed in telegram. I remember, BM of Inmusik do this to the  bounty thread . He closed the thread and no one can edit or add anything on the thread and all issues, question and updates happening to telegram.

The one I really hate in campaign threads is the social media reports. It makes me sick seeing those post that contains the link of their status/tweets about the current campaign. I once checked a random profile and it has a huge number of activities then after that It's just a full of shitposting and social media reports. 


Or maybe they can create a self-moderated thread to delete those shitposters. They should have delete or report those people that'll try to spam the thread. Our admin should add requirements or rules before having a Bounty/ANN thread so he/she can be responsible and will not tolerate shitposting in the threads.

I know some poeple who locks thread after the campaign ends because they knew that it'll become a place where shitposters at.

Why are you surprised? Many people create such long "footcloths" From several months of their work. So they save all their links in one place.
In some rules participation in bounty write a managers. "Quote your first posts." That's what they're doing! And there is a group of people who do not understand what a forum is. This is their first experience. They saw on YouTube video, that you can coins to earn, so they are trying to earn them. They don't even realize that there are other sections of the forum that discuss more important topics. Than the typical brad "I panic, me sell coin or not" "Yes sell and run from this forum" Honestly boiled already...

I personally close all of my bounty threads after a couple weeks following completion, there is no reason to keep the bounty thread open, but I suspect that many users on here are not actually aware that you can close your own threads. To be honest, it took me longer than it probably should have to realize we could lock/unlock our own threads.

I was refering at a free market, given the context of the discussion.

But not always for the general good - look at banking for example. If banking hadn't been self-regulating, then Bitcoin would never have been created.

I am very active in that section and i can tell you that things are slowly changing, nothing happens over night. There are bounty managers who already moved the reporting phase on their own platform.

Maybe there is a need of more competent bounty managers. Anyway, things have progressed.
Last year managers like Jamalaezaz Cancer accepted users in various bounty campaigns only if we could keep a percentage of their reward at the end. Now, there is no such behaviour among managers...as far as i know.

Adding too many rules can get confusing and, like in every ecosistem, the worst thing you can do is to attack it's economy.
Small and well thought steps along with competition will eventually eliminate bad behaviour.

There has to be as less rules as possible, because if you study economy, you will understand that the market always finds a way to regulate itself.

If you change your signature to promote your new project, then the constant bumping of your old threads will promote the new project.

Most love any sort of comments because they keep threads bumped to the top so it doesn't matter what gets posted in there as long as something is.


Most of them are bots and there's thousands. The rest are mostly just bounty and account farmers looking to easily rack up their post count.


These aren't that much of an issue to me, especially when they're confined to the bounty sub, but we could disallow this sort of claiming and only allow the announcement there and their TWITTER/Twitter Link: XXXX/Likes and Retweets claims would be prohibited and only allowed to be claimed off site somehow. They are an eyesore and completely pointless. 99% of the people claiming them are probably using multiple alt accounts and completely fake twitter and facebook profiles anyway but the ICOs don't care.


It is. Sadly theymos and cyrus don't seem to care too much and anything that requires much work or time from them is just ignored. Plenty of solutions have been made and some of them are very simple and things like adding more staff and distributing workload between current staff could be done within minutes and the board would benefit instantly. The best we get after a year of complaining is a one merit requirement which is a small step in the right direct but clearly isn't enough to tackle the huge abuses that are going on here and we're already seeing how easy it is to get around: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46135292



This is sadly too much to ask. Most ICO Managers are lazy and greedy and because there's no repressions for doing a bad job they will just do the least amount of work possible and spam the forum in any way they can do to maximise exposure for their ICO. This is obviously something that needs to change and several solutions have been proposed, one of the most effective being punishing ICOs who come here and do nothing but contribute to the destruction and unreadability of the forum. If that was to happen then the culture of spam here would soon change.