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Topic: Shouldn't non productive topics be moved from Bitcoin Discussion to Off-Topic? - page 2. (Read 3048 times)

legendary
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Slava Ukraini!
I see that many topics in beginners section were locked. Good step by moderators. Now it will be good if they do same thing in bitcoin discussion and gsmbling discussion boards.
legendary
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Terminated.
So no direct action against your farmed accounts.
Preventing spam is *direct action*. You need to understand the staff ranking system.

This is the part I'm referring to, it bugs me quite a bit when I read it.
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The creation of General threads was thought off by Mitchell and Lauda, discussed with Cyrus and approved by theymos.
What's wrong with it? I posted it primarily so that I could edit it myself.

legendary
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You all know what topics I'm talking about. Bitcoin Discussion became the new Gambling section.
It's full of shitposts, with a lot of guys just spamming hard without reading what other people already answered to the thread.

I gave up on cleaning the forum from sig spams, but I want to make Bitcoin Forum great again! this to be a bit of what it were back in the day I joined this forum.
"Hur dur u have an ad sig too". Yeah, good point, but check my post history and you'll see that I barely post, mostly on my localized section that doesn't even pay me a penny.

Can we please keep Bitcoin Discussion to Discussions only? Things that aren't "What you would do with 1 BTC", these posts aren't productive.
I feel that even reddit is a bit cleaner than here because at least it has less shitposts.

Moderation and theymos, please I beg to make this forum useful and not a trash talk for easy money place.

Yes. I go to the gambling discussion thread sometimes and most of the threads there are "Is gambling a sin?", "I lost my wife because of gambling" and many many more of the same useless topics. It is not a prediction thread or a tipster thread or an event thread so why is it considered and left alone in Gambling? It belongs to Off Topic in my opinion.
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
Well, it's good to see that at least some action has been done to prevent the spam from spreading. I see a few grammatical errors like you referring to yourself in 3rd person but I guess it works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A good idea I think would work even better is just a section for beginners that's above the normal beginners+help that's got posts moved into there directly from the normal b+h to actually help beginners. Just my two cents, I'm just overall glad to see action being done against this issue.

This is the part I'm referring to, it bugs me quite a bit when I read it.
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The creation of General threads was thought off by Mitchell and Lauda, discussed with Cyrus and approved by theymos.
hero member
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lol, that'll work.

So no direct action against your farmed accounts.
Everything they write by their very nature is spam. You just want them to hide it a bit better?
legendary
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Terminated.
But as Lauda said, it has been reported and nothing gets done.
I didn't exactly say "nothing" has been done. My initial sentence was wrongful, as a decent amount of threads were handled by Cyrus during the time in which they were a global moderator (I had forgotten about it). However, generally I'm unsatisfied with the situation regarding the low quality posts that we've seen in 2016.

The beginners and help sub-forum. What a hell hole. Good luck finding useful beginner info there
We have been activelly planing a way to 'combat' the problem since that section is very important. Today we have started executing our plan. You can read about it in this thread. The idea was Mitchell's.

hero member
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Reported a user that spams with useless topics like. "Easy ways to earn bitcoins?" yesterday.
5 threads in all.
The threads are still growing, no action taken

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The beginners and help sub-forum. What a hell hole. Good luck finding useful beginner info there

99.9% of the posts within those threads are useless garbage. I have already complained about this, and there has been little action from the global moderators and/or admins so far.

I have posted about recent spam attacks by farmed accounts, posting 5 times in 2 minutes, again and again. No action taken
Even today the same account, 5 posts in 3 minutes, yesterday 5 posts 4 minutes. (then on to the next account and the next account...)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/greatr-552970

Admin and mods take no action. They appear to be supporting this shitposting.

my previous posts specifically about this shitposting for reference
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16333908
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16189020


greater had another session last evening. Another 5 spam posts in 2 or 3 minutes. Check his post history. No action.

Report them.  I'm sure they'll get dealt with.

I'm sure they wont. No action for a month so far.
hero member
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Reported a user that spams with useless topics like. "Easy ways to earn bitcoins?" yesterday.
5 threads in all.
The threads are still growing, no action taken

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The beginners and help sub-forum. What a hell hole. Good luck finding useful beginner info there
legendary
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even some tread were open for spammers if i recall on some sig campaign but some got ban other dont
this may be good time to give some users maybe permissions to delete tread or useless post

we all agree that there is lot of spam but this can be reduced with maybe report directly to some moderators

i found that it was reported and banned users with my sig camp with spamming (here is tread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitmixer-spammers-1378965) but seem to be dead for months maybe we could create something similar and report directly to moderators

this may be only idea or suggestions on this matter
copper member
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
You all know what topics I'm talking about. Bitcoin Discussion became the new Gambling section.
It's full of shitposts, with a lot of guys just spamming hard without reading what other people already answered to the thread.

I gave up on cleaning the forum from sig spams, but I want to make Bitcoin Forum great again! this to be a bit of what it were back in the day I joined this forum.
"Hur dur u have an ad sig too". Yeah, good point, but check my post history and you'll see that I barely post, mostly on my localized section that doesn't even pay me a penny.

Can we please keep Bitcoin Discussion to Discussions only? Things that aren't "What you would do with 1 BTC", these posts aren't productive.
I feel that even reddit is a bit cleaner than here because at least it has less shitposts.

Moderation and theymos, please I beg to make this forum useful and not a trash talk for easy money place.

I'm not sure that the Bitcoin Discussion section is actually needed.
We have other announcement places.
I've seen that bitcoin discussion section is really full of spam, but there's too much spam for justone moderator to clear (as there's only one moderator assigned to that section)!
The only ways to stop spamming is to be more strict with signatue campaigns, ansin order to do that, you risk losing members of the forum or the valued donators here.
legendary
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Bitcoin FTW!
A month ago I reported his. They are all still spamming away. Untroubled by mods or admin.
You said how obvious it all was. The mods/admin could at least communicate about this. Zilch. Nothing. No action.
Banning a account and moving a thread are two different things.Certainly,both actions lead to the well maintained forum but can you imagine how ambiguous it is to go through the post history of all the mentioned accounts and ban them one by one ? I'm not taking sides but the harsh truth is ..it's not upto you or me to ban the accounts.We do our part by reporting them to the Global Mods,rest is their call.

I have found, then been through all 300+ accounts listed as farmed, where is the problem?
And i have also shown many "patterns" to this farming. Detailed checking is not so needed.
Anyway, I managed it. It is FAR easier for theymos, admin and mods to investigate. They have the access required.
(300+ accounts listed by me, all 100% accurate - hence no complaints/protests)

Your exactly right it is not up to me to ban accounts.
But, as I have shown these farmed accounts to be the lowest of quality spammers, and there being no possibility of these farmed accounts EVER being anything other than damaging to real members using the forum, I just want those few real members, and any onlookers, to know who they are mingling with here.

Unlike you, I see the lack of admin/mod action/interest here as reason to protest.
They pretend there are a set of "rules" here. Either action needs to be taken, or the pretend set of rules need to be abolished.




It's just that there's not enough support for this to happen, and like Lauda said in the first few posts, those trash posters will just rise up again and start defending themselves to save their little jobs that they have. I've seen shitposting everywhere, from reddit to bitcointalk, and if anything even reddit has better managing with each section having its own rules and being able to block shitposters. I'd definitely like to see this change happen, but I just don't think it'll happen. If at least we had someone who just read reports and dealt with the issue accordingly we could actually get something done, like a little button at the top just for reporting those people. I wonder how many people are actually legit on this forum... I'm guessing the percentage is lower than 50, what with all of this pointless discussion and farming we have.
hero member
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A month ago I reported his. They are all still spamming away. Untroubled by mods or admin.
You said how obvious it all was. The mods/admin could at least communicate about this. Zilch. Nothing. No action.
Banning a account and moving a thread are two different things.Certainly,both actions lead to the well maintained forum but can you imagine how ambiguous it is to go through the post history of all the mentioned accounts and ban them one by one ? I'm not taking sides but the harsh truth is ..it's not upto you or me to ban the accounts.We do our part by reporting them to the Global Mods,rest is their call.

I have found, then been through all 300+ accounts listed as farmed, where is the problem?
And i have also shown many "patterns" to this farming. Detailed checking is not so needed.
Anyway, I managed it. It is FAR easier for theymos, admin and mods to investigate. They have the access required.
(300+ accounts listed by me, all 100% accurate - hence no complaints/protests)

Your exactly right it is not up to me to ban accounts.
But, as I have shown these farmed accounts to be the lowest of quality spammers, and there being no possibility of these farmed accounts EVER being anything other than damaging to real members using the forum, I just want those few real members, and any onlookers, to know who they are mingling with here.

Unlike you, I see the lack of admin/mod action/interest here as reason to protest.
They pretend there are a set of "rules" here. Either action needs to be taken, or the pretend set of rules need to be abolished.



hero member
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Really disappointed by the lack of attention this topic got.
It seems that users that search for real content on the forum aren't here anymore.
You're preaching to the choir. I don't even know why I still bother to come here. Sad

Know the feeling. Haven't really read any topic in General for months.
Just. Click the forum, see the topics and move on to the development forum
legendary
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Get your game girl
A month ago I reported his. They are all still spamming away. Untroubled by mods or admin.
You said how obvious it all was. The mods/admin could at least communicate about this. Zilch. Nothing. No action.
Banning a account and moving a thread are two different things.Certainly,both actions lead to the well maintained forum but can you imagine how ambiguous it is to go through the post history of all the mentioned accounts and ban them one by one ? I'm not taking sides but the harsh truth is ..it's not upto you or me to ban the accounts.We do our part by reporting them to the Global Mods,rest is their call.
hero member
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I don't think you need to make a big deal out of it.If I come across a topic that is not constructive on Bitcoin Discussion,I report it and it is always taken care of.

Ok sure. That is why you only need look right now, or at any other time, and it is all still going on?


This list needs publishing.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zosuda-663111  Zosuda  (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/molsewid-663116                           molsewid  (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bamselk-663122                                                    Bamselk  (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fasdorcas-663129                                                                              fasdorcas  (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zadicar-663136  Zadicar  (860)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/malsetid-663142                           Malsetid  (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bamsed-663146                                                    Bamsed  (67) ***
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fasdurcas-663156                                                                             Fasdurcas  (23)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/zudalar-663174  Zudalar (22)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mastsetad-663185                           Mastsetad  (1344)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/blamsud-663190                                                    Blamsud  (21)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/farstdury-663195                                                                            Farstdury (23) 


Time scale is 1 hour.
12 farmed accounts creating 2400 spam posts  (post count in brackets) Mastsetad produced 1344 spam posts alone.

*** bbc. reporter list.
Nice catch! You could clearly see by the way most of them have posted in either alt coin sections or single like auction thread comments!Maybe you should personally send the list to Cyrus or Hilariousandco,they are most likely to ban these accounts.It doesn't end here,seems like this guy is a pro in accounts trading,he is buying more accounts while trying to farm the account he is buying from! Grin

A month ago I reported his. They are all still spamming away. Untroubled by mods or admin.
You said how obvious it all was. The mods/admin could at least communicate about this. Zilch. Nothing. No action.


legendary
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Get your game girl
I don't think you need to make a big deal out of it.If I come across a topic that is not constructive on Bitcoin Discussion,I report it and it is always taken care of.
hero member
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99.9% of the posts within those threads are useless garbage. I have already complained about this, and there has been little action from the global moderators and/or admins so far.

Report them.  I'm sure they'll get dealt with.

But as Lauda said, it has been reported and nothing gets done.

Really disappointed by the lack of attention this topic got.
It seems that users that search for real content on the forum aren't here anymore.
You're preaching to the choir. I don't even know why I still bother to come here. Sad

At least you got a 40% admin/mod (opposing) reply rate!

I have the same problem on my thread. No real users left here, hardly, to care. Very little interest from anyone. (are you interested in my thread?)
Until these spam for btc farmed accounts are banned, I cannot see a way forward. They are only here to max spam/min effort/max earn.
Those users looking for real content have clearly been driven away.

I have identified over 300 farmed accounts, creating mostly 1 or 2 line spam, probably owned by 1 person/group and being well paid.
Accounts farmed In full sight of theymos, untroubled by mods, employed by sig campaigns.
(some are/were now even managing campaigns)

I've had almost no interest/discussion from admin or mods or campaign managers.
(nor, strangely, from many hero/legendary scam hunter/intellectual/trusted members)
I'm beginning to suspect these farmed accounts are owned either by admin, managers or mods. Or all three. (though I have no proof/not looked)

I stumbled into doing what I would have thought as the admin/mod/manager jobs. They already knew of course. (or are incompetent)

Mabye report users that makes crap threads would help?
Looked over the 2 first pages a few minutes ago and one user had created 5 threads and all were useless spam threads

All in full sight of the mods. Should not need reporting. But maybe it has been reported and no action, we do not know.
(well, we do, as lauda said above, no action)
I have posted about recent spam attacks by farmed accounts, posting 5 times in 2 minutes, again and again. No action taken
Even today the same account, 5 posts in 3 minutes, yesterday 5 posts 4 minutes. (then on to the next account and the next account...)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/greatr-552970

Admin and mods take no action. They appear to be supporting this shitposting.

my previous posts specifically about this shitposting for reference
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16333908
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16189020



legendary
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Vile Vixen and Miss Bitcointalk 2021-2023
Really disappointed by the lack of attention this topic got.
It seems that users that search for real content on the forum aren't here anymore.
You're preaching to the choir. I don't even know why I still bother to come here. Sad
hero member
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Mabye report users that makes crap threads would help?
Looked over the 2 first pages a few minutes ago and one user had created 5 threads and all were useless spam threads
legendary
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English <-> Portuguese translations
Report them.  I'm sure they'll get dealt with.

One could only hope if that were true. These posts come up every week and I haven't seen one getting deleted.
They only get locked if it gets too much posts and ends up alive for far too long.

Really disappointed by the lack of attention this topic got.
It seems that users that search for real content on the forum aren't here anymore.
Thanks anyway for those that showed up here to show your support.
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