Topic: Shouldn't non productive topics be moved from Bitcoin Discussion to Off-Topic? - page 2. (Read 3063 times)

I see that many topics in beginners section were locked. Good step by moderators. Now it will be good if they do same thing in bitcoin discussion and gsmbling discussion boards.

Preventing spam is *direct action*. You need to understand the staff ranking system.

What's wrong with it? I posted it primarily so that I could edit it myself.

Yes. I go to the gambling discussion thread sometimes and most of the threads there are "Is gambling a sin?", "I lost my wife because of gambling" and many many more of the same useless topics. It is not a prediction thread or a tipster thread or an event thread so why is it considered and left alone in Gambling? It belongs to Off Topic in my opinion.

Well, it's good to see that at least some action has been done to prevent the spam from spreading. I see a few grammatical errors like you referring to yourself in 3rd person but I guess it works ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
A good idea I think would work even better is just a section for beginners that's above the normal beginners+help that's got posts moved into there directly from the normal b+h to actually help beginners. Just my two cents, I'm just overall glad to see action being done against this issue.

This is the part I'm referring to, it bugs me quite a bit when I read it.

lol, that'll work.

So no direct action against your farmed accounts.
Everything they write by their very nature is spam. You just want them to hide it a bit better?

I didn't exactly say "nothing" has been done. My initial sentence was wrongful, as a decent amount of threads were handled by Cyrus during the time in which they were a global moderator (I had forgotten about it). However, generally I'm unsatisfied with the situation regarding the low quality posts that we've seen in 2016.

We have been activelly planing a way to 'combat' the problem since that section is very important. Today we have started executing our plan. You can read about it in this thread. The idea was Mitchell's.

greater had another session last evening. Another 5 spam posts in 2 or 3 minutes. Check his post history. No action.


I'm sure they wont. No action for a month so far.

Reported a user that spams with useless topics like. "Easy ways to earn bitcoins?" yesterday.
5 threads in all.
The threads are still growing, no action taken

Edit:
The beginners and help sub-forum. What a hell hole. Good luck finding useful beginner info there

even some tread were open for spammers if i recall on some sig campaign but some got ban other dont
this may be good time to give some users maybe permissions to delete tread or useless post

we all agree that there is lot of spam but this can be reduced with maybe report directly to some moderators

i found that it was reported and banned users with my sig camp with spamming (here is tread https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitmixer-spammers-1378965) but seem to be dead for months maybe we could create something similar and report directly to moderators

this may be only idea or suggestions on this matter

I'm not sure that the Bitcoin Discussion section is actually needed.
We have other announcement places.
I've seen that bitcoin discussion section is really full of spam, but there's too much spam for justone moderator to clear (as there's only one moderator assigned to that section)!
The only ways to stop spamming is to be more strict with signatue campaigns, ansin order to do that, you risk losing members of the forum or the valued donators here.

It's just that there's not enough support for this to happen, and like Lauda said in the first few posts, those trash posters will just rise up again and start defending themselves to save their little jobs that they have. I've seen shitposting everywhere, from reddit to bitcointalk, and if anything even reddit has better managing with each section having its own rules and being able to block shitposters. I'd definitely like to see this change happen, but I just don't think it'll happen. If at least we had someone who just read reports and dealt with the issue accordingly we could actually get something done, like a little button at the top just for reporting those people. I wonder how many people are actually legit on this forum... I'm guessing the percentage is lower than 50, what with all of this pointless discussion and farming we have.

I have found, then been through all 300+ accounts listed as farmed, where is the problem?
And i have also shown many "patterns" to this farming. Detailed checking is not so needed.
Anyway, I managed it. It is FAR easier for theymos, admin and mods to investigate. They have the access required.
(300+ accounts listed by me, all 100% accurate - hence no complaints/protests)

Your exactly right it is not up to me to ban accounts.
But, as I have shown these farmed accounts to be the lowest of quality spammers, and there being no possibility of these farmed accounts EVER being anything other than damaging to real members using the forum, I just want those few real members, and any onlookers, to know who they are mingling with here.

Unlike you, I see the lack of admin/mod action/interest here as reason to protest.
They pretend there are a set of "rules" here. Either action needs to be taken, or the pretend set of rules need to be abolished.

Know the feeling. Haven't really read any topic in General for months.
Just. Click the forum, see the topics and move on to the development forum

Banning a account and moving a thread are two different things.Certainly,both actions lead to the well maintained forum but can you imagine how ambiguous it is to go through the post history of all the mentioned accounts and ban them one by one ? I'm not taking sides but the harsh truth is ..it's not upto you or me to ban the accounts.We do our part by reporting them to the Global Mods,rest is their call.

Ok sure. That is why you only need look right now, or at any other time, and it is all still going on?


A month ago I reported his. They are all still spamming away. Untroubled by mods or admin.
You said how obvious it all was. The mods/admin could at least communicate about this. Zilch. Nothing. No action.

I don't think you need to make a big deal out of it.If I come across a topic that is not constructive on Bitcoin Discussion,I report it and it is always taken care of.

But as Lauda said, it has been reported and nothing gets done.


At least you got a 40% admin/mod (opposing) reply rate!

I have the same problem on my thread. No real users left here, hardly, to care. Very little interest from anyone. (are you interested in my thread?)
Until these spam for btc farmed accounts are banned, I cannot see a way forward. They are only here to max spam/min effort/max earn.
Those users looking for real content have clearly been driven away.

I have identified over 300 farmed accounts, creating mostly 1 or 2 line spam, probably owned by 1 person/group and being well paid.
Accounts farmed In full sight of theymos, untroubled by mods, employed by sig campaigns.
(some are/were now even managing campaigns)

I've had almost no interest/discussion from admin or mods or campaign managers.
(nor, strangely, from many hero/legendary scam hunter/intellectual/trusted members)
I'm beginning to suspect these farmed accounts are owned either by admin, managers or mods. Or all three. (though I have no proof/not looked)

I stumbled into doing what I would have thought as the admin/mod/manager jobs. They already knew of course. (or are incompetent)


All in full sight of the mods. Should not need reporting. But maybe it has been reported and no action, we do not know.
(well, we do, as lauda said above, no action)
I have posted about recent spam attacks by farmed accounts, posting 5 times in 2 minutes, again and again. No action taken
Even today the same account, 5 posts in 3 minutes, yesterday 5 posts 4 minutes. (then on to the next account and the next account...)
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/greatr-552970

Admin and mods take no action. They appear to be supporting this shitposting.

my previous posts specifically about this shitposting for reference
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16333908
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16189020

You're preaching to the choir. I don't even know why I still bother to come here.

Mabye report users that makes crap threads would help?
Looked over the 2 first pages a few minutes ago and one user had created 5 threads and all were useless spam threads

One could only hope if that were true. These posts come up every week and I haven't seen one getting deleted.
They only get locked if it gets too much posts and ends up alive for far too long.

Really disappointed by the lack of attention this topic got.
It seems that users that search for real content on the forum aren't here anymore.
Thanks anyway for those that showed up here to show your support.