Shouldn't there be a rule to prevent burst-posting or spam such as this?

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Quote from: _BlackStar on September 15, 2024, 03:50:09 PM

If that were the case - the moderator would have deleted all of his posts. But the fact is - the user has not changed his weird posting habits and is still doing it until the 13th. He may have been temporarily banned for his weird posting behavior - but this user is unlikely to change his habits if he only posts for fun.

I checked betswift's post history - she's been acting like this for a while now. Moderators have removed 75 posts from her since the account was created on March 22, 2024 - probably more if her weird behavior doesn't stop.

I only see his posts getting deleted and no ban in the modlog. However, the user hasn't posted for a couple of days, or, his recent posts have been removed by admins. His last post was on 13th, but he was last active today.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't stop doing that, but the fact that he did not post for two days probably means something. Maybe, he has created an alt and started posting from that account but hasn't caught our attention yet.

Anyway, I guess there is nothing else we can do other than report any post that we see. I don't open his profile to report his posts every day but I report any post that I come across when surfing the forum.

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Quote from: Alone055 on September 15, 2024, 12:23:19 PM

Quote from: BITCOIN4X on September 14, 2024, 02:37:25 PM

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I agree, but prepared posts will have substantial value and quality in them which is nowhere to be seen in this user's posts which proves that he isn't practicing what you have mentioned but he is visiting each topic separately and writing the posts on the spot, hence, the low-quality posts all around.

If that were the case - the moderator would have deleted all of his posts. But the fact is - the user has not changed his weird posting habits and is still doing it until the 13th. He may have been temporarily banned for his weird posting behavior - but this user is unlikely to change his habits if he only posts for fun.

I checked betswift's post history - she's been acting like this for a while now. Moderators have removed 75 posts from her since the account was created on March 22, 2024 - probably more if her weird behavior doesn't stop.

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Quote from: BITCOIN4X on September 14, 2024, 02:37:25 PM

Someone else including you or me can also post what we think is of value with the same behavior, in fact you can do it every few seconds in 4 to 6 or even more different threads. The condition is that you have to prepare your reply first on each thread, then you post them sequentially with an interval of just a few seconds.

I agree, but prepared posts will have substantial value and quality in them which is nowhere to be seen in this user's posts which proves that he isn't practicing what you have mentioned but he is visiting each topic separately and writing the posts on the spot, hence, the low-quality posts all around.

Quote from: Perfectbaby on September 14, 2024, 05:39:57 PM

Maybe you didn't comprehend my text correctly and I didn't practically say that everyone should be restricted. Like I said there should be a form restrictions on posting time such as timer as you already said, maybe to post within 5 above to reduce spamming but, your suggestions also is good because if it's set on that particular user who is spamming then it would be fine for him or to learn a lesson.

I understood what you said and I responded accordingly.

A forum restriction would be for everyone, while individual restrictions would be for individual users who are going over the line with spamming and burst-posting. That's why I said, it would be better if moderators get the privilege to enforce certain restrictions on individual accounts to restrict them from misusing their rights.

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Quote from: Alone055 on September 14, 2024, 07:41:15 AM

Quote from: Perfectbaby on September 12, 2024, 06:39:46 PM

This shows to be bot posting and I can't believe humans post without reading any text before replying. So the easiest way to stop this is to implement a kind of security system where if the user post less than 10-15 minutes he should be required to pass verification before posting to restrict either post bursting or a bot posting. I don't know if this idea has been passed here.

It's not a bot, it's just abnormal posting behavior from a human with a motive unknown to us. It's also not that he isn't reading anything, he reads the post that he replies to, but doesn't think much or write much in his response, he reads the post quickly, makes a quick response within 2 minutes or so, and moves to the next topic immediately and does the same again. So he isn't using a bot, most probably, but what he is doing isn't normal.

Implementing a system that would restrict every member from posting only because of a single person's behavior wouldn't be fair. Maybe there should be a privilege given to moderators for implementing such restrictions on specific users who are being reported a lot for spamming and post-bursting. A moderator should be able to put a timer on their account so that they can only post once within a specified timeframe such as 10 minutes or so.

Maybe you didn't comprehend my text correctly and I didn't practically say that everyone should be restricted. Like I said there should be a form restrictions on posting time such as timer as you already said, maybe to post within 5 above to reduce spamming but, your suggestions also is good because if it's set on that particular user who is spamming then it would be fine for him or to learn a lesson.

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Quote from: Alone055 on September 14, 2024, 07:41:15 AM

Quote from: Perfectbaby on September 12, 2024, 06:39:46 PM

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It's not a bot, it's just abnormal posting behavior from a human with a motive unknown to us. It's also not that he isn't reading anything, he reads the post that he replies to, but doesn't think much or write much in his response, he reads the post quickly, makes a quick response within 2 minutes or so, and moves to the next topic immediately and does the same again. So he isn't using a bot, most probably, but what he is doing isn't normal.

I agree, that's not normal behavior from someone who is interested in discussing in one thread or another, there should be a break for him to think more critically so that his posts are much more meaningful. But I call it a unique habit pattern regardless of the motive, it is also because the system allows users who have high activity points to reduce the waiting time between posts.

Someone else including you or me can also post what we think is of value with the same behavior, in fact you can do it every few seconds in 4 to 6 or even more different threads. The condition is that you have to prepare your reply first on each thread, then you post them sequentially with an interval of just a few seconds. You can do the same thing when you want to send a report to a moderator or also when you send merit to dozens of different users. This method saves you time, but when it comes to posting, then I admit this is not a good behavior to maintain.

Quote from: Alone055 on September 14, 2024, 07:41:15 AM

Implementing a system that would restrict every member from posting only because of a single person's behavior wouldn't be fair. Maybe there should be a privilege given to moderators for implementing such restrictions on specific users who are being reported a lot for spamming and post-bursting. A moderator should be able to put a timer on their account so that they can only post once within a specified timeframe such as 10 minutes or so.

Spam and low-quality posts with relatively short time lags are classic problems on this forum. You can always report it to a moderator and hope that the user you reported changes their habits. If his behavior does not change, it is possible for him to get a temporary or permanent ban.

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Quote from: Alone055 on September 09, 2024, 05:40:26 AM

Quote from: Smartvirus on September 08, 2024, 06:12:41 PM

As much as reports might be the way, be rest assured that, they do get what is deserved as at when the time is due.

Hoping for that, time should have been due already by now considering he has been doing this for some time now.

I agree with you that the time is long over due, especially given the fact that, these users don’t care so much about the deleted posts but rather, goes ahead to make several others in there place while waiting to see what gets deleted and what stays. Getting nuked is what should be done to users within this category.

Perhaps we should have a time per number of deleted post ratio, don’t know if that makes sense but, having to report and ignore these users don’t stop them from continuing the very next minute. It just doesn’t make sense and you can tell clearly, they just don’t care and aren’t looking to change.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 13, 2024, 04:53:01 AM

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 13, 2024, 03:38:55 AM

Another user I can remember is DarkStar_ who has a good number of report history.
We used to have a topic about report history, not sure where it is now.

I am not familiar with his activities regarding these things, because I know him as a manager in sig campaigns, especially the one that was one of the most famous on the forum for years.

I think I mixed up. It was actmyname, not DarkStar_. Both seems left the forum long time ago.

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on September 12, 2024, 06:39:46 PM

This shows to be bot posting and I can't believe humans post without reading any text before replying. So the easiest way to stop this is to implement a kind of security system where if the user post less than 10-15 minutes he should be required to pass verification before posting to restrict either post bursting or a bot posting. I don't know if this idea has been passed here.

It's not a bot, it's just abnormal posting behavior from a human with a motive unknown to us. It's also not that he isn't reading anything, he reads the post that he replies to, but doesn't think much or write much in his response, he reads the post quickly, makes a quick response within 2 minutes or so, and moves to the next topic immediately and does the same again. So he isn't using a bot, most probably, but what he is doing isn't normal.

Implementing a system that would restrict every member from posting only because of a single person's behavior wouldn't be fair. Maybe there should be a privilege given to moderators for implementing such restrictions on specific users who are being reported a lot for spamming and post-bursting. A moderator should be able to put a timer on their account so that they can only post once within a specified timeframe such as 10 minutes or so.

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on September 12, 2024, 06:39:46 PM

This shows to be bot posting and I can't believe humans post without reading any text before replying. So the easiest way to stop this is to implement a kind of security system where if the user post less than 10-15 minutes he should be required to pass verification before posting to restrict either post bursting or a bot posting. I don't know if this idea has been passed here.

Similar system already implemented but as you rank up the posting time jail decreases. For example Newbies can only post after 30secs apart, as you rank up this posting jail time reduces.

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The member in question (betswift) seems to be posting to maximise exposure to his affiliate link displayed in his signature. I think that along with the aim of member rank is the driving factor here.

I do find it odd that he opted not to post in this thread addressing his activities. I will send him a PM inviting him to post here because it will be interesting to read anything he might have to add regarding using bots or anything else.

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Quote from: Perfectbaby on September 12, 2024, 06:39:46 PM

This shows to be bot posting and I can't believe humans post without reading any text before replying. So the easiest way to stop this is to implement a kind of security system where if the user post less than 10-15 minutes he should be required to pass verification before posting to restrict either post bursting or a bot posting. I don't know if this idea has been passed here.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 13, 2024, 03:38:55 AM

No no, I am not complaining brother. I was one of the many who was high against his plagiarism and became his so called enemy. I was not informed about the information of can not reporting posts from several years. We will never know his goals but indeed there were many numbers of reports from him.

It seemed to me that you had some kind of nostalgia for him, which I found strange considering that you were one of the few who I thought understood how he built his status on this forum. My conclusion would be that the goal of all those reports was to become a moderator, and at least then it was a paid function on the forum (probably still the case today).

As for old posts, you can still report them today, but the forum will give you the following message :

Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 13, 2024, 03:38:55 AM

Another user I can remember is DarkStar_ who has a good number of report history.
We used to have a topic about report history, not sure where it is now.

I am not familiar with his activities regarding these things, because I know him as a manager in sig campaigns, especially the one that was one of the most famous on the forum for years.

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Quote from: Lucius on September 12, 2024, 05:13:16 AM

You're forgetting one very important thing, which is that today you can't report posts that are several years old, and he was doing exactly that to achieve his goals (whatever they were). In addition, complaining about someone who built his "career" on this forum through nicely packaged plagiarism is completely pointless, there were many members who did an excellent job, and who did not shove all their "achievements" in everyone's noses.

No no, I am not complaining brother. I was one of the many who was high against his plagiarism and became his so called enemy. I was not informed about the information of can not reporting posts from several years. We will never know his goals but indeed there were many numbers of reports from him. Another user I can remember is DarkStar_ who has a good number of report history.

We used to have a topic about report history, not sure where it is now.

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Quote from: Alone055 on September 08, 2024, 11:32:13 AM

This might not be something that directly harms the forum or its well-being, but it's painful to watch.

If there was an award for burst-posting, this guy would surely be the winner in it. The guy is literally making a post every 2 to 3 minutes in any section he stumbles upon, look at the picture for reference:

That isn't the only board or place where he did or does this, he did the same in Gambling Discussion just an hour or half an hour ago but because that section is more crowded, it went unnoticed but it can be seen from his post history. The guy has 1690 posts with only 182 activity points, and most of his posts are of the same nature, generic 3-line posts without much contribution to the topics in question.

I'm not against this guy or anyone in general, but I feel this isn't normal behavior and there should be a way to prevent this from happening.

P.S.: I'll lock the thread if the community thinks otherwise. Open for discussion for now.

This shows to be bot posting and I can't believe humans post without reading any text before replying. So the easiest way to stop this is to implement a kind of security system where if the user post less than 10-15 minutes he should be required to pass verification before posting to restrict either post bursting or a bot posting. I don't know if this idea has been passed here.

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Quote from: Wiwo on September 11, 2024, 05:41:01 PM

Very well thought out there, I think that guy is under the payment of some sort of campaign and he is paid to flood every where in the forum with their signatures, and regardless of what the content and quality of his posts are, posting in that manner is against forum rules.

The guy is not in a signature campaign or getting paid for posting. The signature he is wearing is from Weiss.bet Signature campaign managed by AB de Royse777 and the campaign doesn't accept members below Sr. member rank. It's just that they have signatures for Full members and Members as well and he has bought Copper Membership which allows him to wear a Member rank signature.

We are not sure why he is wearing that signature, maybe he is promoting his referral link, when you hover over the link in his signature, it isn't clear whether it's a referral link or not, so I can't say anything about that.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 12, 2024, 02:05:52 AM

I think forum is missing Ratimov. I can not remember the number of his reports but it was 4 figure. There were not many active reporters like him. People have good and bad characters. That man was good at the reporting things.

You're forgetting one very important thing, which is that today you can't report posts that are several years old, and he was doing exactly that to achieve his goals (whatever they were). In addition, complaining about someone who built his "career" on this forum through nicely packaged plagiarism is completely pointless, there were many members who did an excellent job, and who did not shove all their "achievements" in everyone's noses.

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Quote from: BitcoinGirl.Club on September 12, 2024, 02:05:52 AM

Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2024, 10:09:16 AM

The "report to moderator" button is there for a reason, moderators can't see through thousands of profiles alone, with the support of the community everything becomes more easy.

I think forum is missing Ratimov. I can not remember the number of his reports but it was 4 figure. There were not many active reporters like him. People have good and bad characters. That man was good at the reporting things.

99 good, 1 bad, and society will condemn you for the 1 bad while forgetting about the 99 good. Rati will be miss forever; no one can get those figures; we only have those who believe reporting is not their job now.

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Quote from: Wiwo on September 12, 2024, 03:19:16 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on September 12, 2024, 02:30:37 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on September 11, 2024, 05:41:01 PM

At least leaving 5-10 minutes in-between his posts shows that he put a n some effort in constructing those posts, but in this case he posts less than 5 minutes on a multiple occasions, and that is unacceptable here in the forum.

There's no set standard for post timing like 5-10 minutes or lower. It probably comes down to the mods' judgment if they need to delete posts, even if they contain valuable content, or worse, give a temp ban to teach a lesson. If you look at it, there are also users who post with a long interval, sometimes hours, but their posts lack substance. So, we should weigh which is the bigger violation in that case.

I agree with you on that timing does not necessitate the quality of posts, but then having a member ditching out chunk of comments within 3-5 minutes Interval clearly state the obvious truth that there is no enough timing and efforts in creating such a comment regardless of the content and semetic load the comment Carries.

Although not everyone who takes time Interval to make posts out in efforts in fact someone may put an hour interval on his post and still make low quality posts, it all depends on the background knowledge of the member regarding to the topic of discussion, that makes up for the content of his comment.

I guess the post should just be reported and see what the mods say. Also, there's no need to create more threads with similar content; this is enough for raising awareness. It's better to report directly. It’s hard to give an opinion if it doesn’t align with the forum rules, and since I’ve read in the replies that the content of the post is good and not low quality, it’s up to the mods to decide if the reason to delete or ban the user for bursting is valid.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 12, 2024, 02:30:37 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on September 11, 2024, 05:41:01 PM

At least leaving 5-10 minutes in-between his posts shows that he put a n some effort in constructing those posts, but in this case he posts less than 5 minutes on a multiple occasions, and that is unacceptable here in the forum.

There's no set standard for post timing like 5-10 minutes or lower. It probably comes down to the mods' judgment if they need to delete posts, even if they contain valuable content, or worse, give a temp ban to teach a lesson. If you look at it, there are also users who post with a long interval, sometimes hours, but their posts lack substance. So, we should weigh which is the bigger violation in that case.

I agree with you on that timing does not necessitate the quality of posts, but then having a member ditching out chunk of comments within 3-5 minutes Interval clearly state the obvious truth that there is no enough timing and efforts in creating such a comment regardless of the content and semetic load the comment Carries.

Although not everyone who takes time Interval to make posts out in efforts in fact someone may put an hour interval on his post and still make low quality posts, it all depends on the background knowledge of the member regarding to the topic of discussion, that makes up for the content of his comment.

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Quote from: Wiwo on September 11, 2024, 05:41:01 PM

At least leaving 5-10 minutes in-between his posts shows that he put a n some effort in constructing those posts, but in this case he posts less than 5 minutes on a multiple occasions, and that is unacceptable here in the forum.

There's no set standard for post timing like 5-10 minutes or lower. It probably comes down to the mods' judgment if they need to delete posts, even if they contain valuable content, or worse, give a temp ban to teach a lesson. If you look at it, there are also users who post with a long interval, sometimes hours, but their posts lack substance. So, we should weigh which is the bigger violation in that case.

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Quote from: Igebotz on September 09, 2024, 10:09:16 AM

The "report to moderator" button is there for a reason, moderators can't see through thousands of profiles alone, with the support of the community everything becomes more easy.

I think forum is missing Ratimov. I can not remember the number of his reports but it was 4 figure. There were not many active reporters like him. People have good and bad characters. That man was good at the reporting things.

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