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Quote from: Josepht link=topic=716312.msg8725590#msg8725590 date=1410168088
Investors loss? That's the risk you take when you invest. You know people can win big.
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Not when the 'whale' winning big is likely to be DiceBitco.in themselves through argument by elimination.

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Quote from: Sniper76 on September 08, 2014, 04:20:09 AM

Same case for me.
As an investor, i was positive at around BTC0.10 and when i withdrew today i lost BTC0.19...

@Dicebitco : What do you planned for investor loss? (My DB account : Teddy76)

Why do you think they should give you money? I don't get it.

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 08, 2014, 01:17:44 AM

Just to set the record straight: it was players who lost coins. Investors actually gained coins, at least until mateo recently whaled some off.

That's why the speculation is that 'mateo' is DiceBitco.in themselves. They might have the premise that the rigged profit wasn't supposed to have happened, so think it's OK for them to reclaim it underhandedly.

Think about it.. who the fuck would keep betting on a site that just rigged rolls, with people complaining about withdrawal delays, and the dust not settled? Would any rational whale keep betting instead of withdrawing what they had?

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Quote from: Sniper76 on September 08, 2014, 04:20:09 AM

Same case for me.
As an investor, i was positive at around BTC0.10 and when i withdrew today i lost BTC0.19...

@Dicebitco : What do you planned for investor loss? (My DB account : Teddy76)

Investors loss? That's the risk you take when you invest. You know people can win big.

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Same case for me.
As an investor, i was positive at around BTC0.10 and when i withdrew today i lost BTC0.19...

@Dicebitco : What do you planned for investor loss? (My DB account : Teddy76)

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Quote from: suchmoon on September 08, 2014, 01:17:44 AM

Just to set the record straight: it was players who lost coins. Investors actually gained coins, at least until mateo recently whaled some off.

I was up about BTC0.28 yesterday as an investor, and when I withdrew today my profit had become BTC-0.66...

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Quote from: onlinepro on September 08, 2014, 02:51:33 AM

Who forces them to answer us? They could just ignore us if there is too much questions, no need to disable chat.
Why can't we discuss with each others?
This is starting to seem very fishy to me Angry

I totally get that man and I agree that they shouldn't have done it, but that doesn't mean that I don't understand it. Ignoring a chat is a lot harder then you think. I left yesterday, but still kept checking what was going on.

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Quote from: Mitchell on September 08, 2014, 02:50:47 AM

Quote from: johndon on September 08, 2014, 02:46:19 AM

Wow chat is removed and no reply there, genius move.

Well. I can understand that. People where spamming that chat, it's was going crazy in there. Constantly responding to the same question/bullshit isn't going to help them.

Who forces them to answer us? They could just ignore us if there is too much questions, no need to disable chat.
Why can't we discuss with each others?
This is starting to seem very fishy to me Angry

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Quote from: johndon on September 08, 2014, 02:46:19 AM

Wow chat is removed and no reply there, genius move.

Well. I can understand that. People where spamming that chat, it's was going crazy in there. Constantly responding to the same question/bullshit isn't going to help them.

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Why is the chat disabled Huh

This make you guys look very bad...
Seems like you have a lot to hide since you don't want to even let us discuss about this Angry

Are you scared we found something more?

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Wow chat is removed and no reply there, genius move.

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Quote from: vinboy on September 08, 2014, 02:27:30 AM

now my coins is stuck in DB. withdrawal still not working..

How much is it?
I just withdrew 0.3 BTC. It appeared instantly in my wallet.

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Quote from: Mitchell on September 08, 2014, 02:22:24 AM

Quote from: shushz on September 08, 2014, 02:16:22 AM

I'm also interested in this. My understanding is that the refund to the rollers was to be done out of devs' pockets, while now it seems that somehow investors payed it, at least partially.
Not accusing anyone, but 100BTC down in profit in half a day seems strange.

How is that strange? A whale popped up, gambled lucky, withdrew. It has happened before and will happen again. Remember that whale (Nakowa/charlotte) on JD? He took a huge chunk out of the profit:

http://i.imgur.com/G0ZgRei.png

I understand this can happen, what makes this strange is the timing. Profit went down significantly when multiple refunds were issued. That's why I join to Geegeegee's question whether it's possible to verify that this indeed happened because of legitimate bets.

Quote from: Geegeegee on September 08, 2014, 02:01:25 AM

Anyone got the rolls for the last 12 hours or so?

Profit went down to 166 and I had a large % of the roll during that time. Would like to verify they were legitimate bets.

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Quote from: Mitchell on September 08, 2014, 02:30:23 AM

Quote from: MilkyLep on September 08, 2014, 02:28:29 AM

Is the exact date and time the malicious code went live known? I have over 175,000 bets with more than 60% falling in between Sept 4th and Sept 6th.

I am one of the accounts affected by this bug. Are the winning bets still not being paid out?

As far as I read it happened after the 28th of Augusts. I not sure though so don't take my word for it.

Well then it seems like I could've been pushed from positive profit to negative in 10 days, thats a shitload of bets to verify...so many seeds...so many nonces.

Any chance the database/audit will be made public or at least have bet history made more accessible?

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Quote from: vinboy on September 08, 2014, 02:27:30 AM

i still dont get this.
why is skipping nounce such a big issue? can't the dev just fix the code and get back to normal?
dice game is all random anyway.

The nonce is part of the calculation for the result ("the number you roll".) They were skipping nonces that would have resulted in a winning result, so players lose much more than they should. That is definitely a big issue Wink

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Quote from: MilkyLep on September 08, 2014, 02:28:29 AM

Is the exact date and time the malicious code went live known? I have over 175,000 bets with more than 60% falling in between Sept 4th and Sept 6th.

I am one of the accounts affected by this bug. Are the winning bets still not being paid out?

As far as I read it happened after the 28th of Augusts. I not sure though so don't take my word for it.

Quote from: vinboy on September 08, 2014, 02:27:30 AM

i still dont get this.
why is skipping nounce such a big issue? can't the dev just fix the code and get back to normal?
dice game is all random anyway.

now my coins is stuck in DB. withdrawal still not working..

Hot wallet is most likely empty. You will have to wait for DiceBitco.in to refill it.

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Is the exact date and time the malicious code went live known? I have over 175,000 bets with more than 60% falling in between Sept 4th and Sept 6th.

I am one of the accounts affected by this bug. Are the winning bets still not being paid out? In my last sequence my winning bets would have put me in profit, yet obviously there my account sits in the negative.

Edit: Is there anyway I can grab all my bet info and save it myself? How am I supposed to go back though 4,400 pages of bets to verify this? I can only see 40 bets at a time and am forced to go page by page.

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i still dont get this.
why is skipping nounce such a big issue? can't the dev just fix the code and get back to normal?
dice game is all random anyway.

now my coins is stuck in DB. withdrawal still not working..

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Quote from: shushz on September 08, 2014, 02:16:22 AM

I'm also interested in this. My understanding is that the refund to the rollers was to be done out of devs' pockets, while now it seems that somehow investors payed it, at least partially.
Not accusing anyone, but 100BTC down in profit in half a day seems strange.

How is that strange? A whale popped up, gambled lucky, withdrew. It has happened before and will happen again. Remember that whale (Nakowa/charlotte) on JD? He took a huge chunk out of the profit:

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Quote from: Geegeegee on September 08, 2014, 02:01:25 AM

Anyone got the rolls for the last 12 hours or so?

Profit went down to 166 and I had a large % of the roll during that time. Would like to verify they were legitimate bets.

I'm also interested in this. My understanding is that the refund to the rollers was to be done out of devs' pockets, while now it seems that somehow investors payed it, at least partially.
Not accusing anyone, but 100BTC down in profit in half a day seems strange.

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