It's starting to look that way. Maybe one day there will be another trustworthy crowd-funded casino owner, and I hope so. But it's not looking good so far.
By that everyone could read you as "I say that all existent casinos with invest options are scam".
I do not think it's right to say that while at least three casinos are working good so far and the "youngest" one is 8 month old.
I don't mean to say that all the other sites are scams. I just mean that none of the other sites have shown themselves to be trustworthy yet. And when I say "trustworthy" I don't just mean that they're honest. I also mean that they're capable of keeping my coins safe. If my coins are stolen because of a hack or a software error I'm just as sad as if a dishonest operator steals them himself.
I looked at bitdice.me and it had only a few hundred BTC invested. It seems like around 2000 BTC is what scammers consider a decent haul. Maybe bitdice.me just didn't reach its target yet. I'm not saying it has a target at which point it will steal all the coins. I'm simply saying that I don't think they have demonstrated that they don't.
And I realise that you can say the same about any site. People used to always be asking me on Just-Dice "what's your target? when will you run?". I tried to explain that I didn't have a target and wasn't going to run. At one point I was holding over 50 million dollars' worth of other people's coins and still didn't run - and still they asked "what, are you holding out for $100 million"? Maybe I'm even running a long con, will re-launch Just-Dice, and THEN steal all the coins - so I get it - you can't 100% prove you're trustworthy and it's all just different shades of grey.
You can't say that some casino isn't trustworthy. (except that bets are rigged, provably fair isn't that fair, etc). I knew about Deans bugs, but I believe every casino had them. Some are better at security some less. But everyone do mistakes, the fact how one solve them can say something about how things are going internally. But by any means it can't say whether it's trustworthy or not. BitDice for example has about 20 security protocols which are constantly monitors everything and block users on some patterns. I think most casino's have those. I was naive a few times and also lost coins on hot wallet due some mistakes, however losses weren't that big, and I covered everything from my pocket. That's the business. Recently I've read some article that one famous guy lost >1k BTC on Bali from cold storage. Even coldwallet isn't 100% secure to hold user funds. (thus I'm thinking to move to P2SH)
I warned some users ( who invested in me, and plays on mine sites ) about DN's problems almost a week before the run. Casino's became scam because of no business model. I like Deans decision to change investing model, casino's always should get some profits. With DN's case their servers cost was ~1500 per month, without ANY profit whatsoever from sites for several months. And I believe they just lost funds on margin trading when tried to fix the situation.
Dooglus you situation is exclusive, you started at the time when bitcoin price was very low, it was easy to gain trust to hold several thousands coins. You was the first with investing option. You were in a superb position when price raised to the moon at that time you already had a lot of coins and you get richer day by day. For some people holding $100k in investors funds is fortune for others $500k is just a yearly salary without a bonus. Last ones do not have any reason to scam. They need exit like with satoshidice.
You all are fucking crazy. Let people decide if they want to play with you . Next thing I want to hear is owner of Crypto Hall tell me to invest in his site.
Bitcoin is anonymous, you all owners have advantage of doubt.
You know why your site sucks? it has only 100 coins invested and 400 coins profit which came from only 1 guy's loss. Your site sucks at UI and support. You want to win over trust? Let btctalks most trusted member hold the funds. Until then shut up and don't talk about trust. DB DN are sites I lost huge sums of money at, to only win 1% of wagered which is not even twice the amount I invest.
Bitcoin allows you guys to scam users and should not be trusted with a single penny.
Its funny how we all are deviating from the topic of DB's and DN's scam and pointing fingers at each other.
"You can't say that some casino isn't trustworthy." - Oh Yeah, thats what DB and DN said. Look what happened.