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Topic: Silk Road 2.0 hacked through malleability, ~4000 BTC STOLEN (Read 28374 times)

legendary
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I wouldn't say they're drug dealers, but they're certainly facilitating sales and profiting from it.

It's one of those distinctions very few people in the real world will care about.  It reminds me of Walt in Breaking Bad insisting that he was a drug "manufacturer" and not a dealer as if this were a moral or even legal distinction.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1195
But to blanket SR admins with "They are drug dealers" isn't accurate at all. If I ran a shadow market, I wouldn't give two damns what people were selling. And I sure wouldn't be a drug dealer. I would just take my fee for each listing, not know or care what it was for, and be happy to provide a free market for ANY type of goods.

I'm sure anyone from SR2/3/4/5/whatever will raise similar arguments if they're ever in front of a jury.  The track record of success of such arguments is pretty mixed, and the penalties draconian when they lose.

I wouldn't say they're drug dealers, but they're certainly facilitating sales and profiting from it.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Drug dealers really aren't the people you want to owe money to.  I'd be sweating to if I was that little punk.

Have fun 6 feet under, idiot.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
This hack was possible because of

morons.

FIFY.
full member
Activity: 129
Merit: 100
This hack was possible because of a
...

I think it got stolen coz they/him/she got hold of the private key/s to the wallet/s
coz the server(nutin to do with BTC net) security hole. Or it was simply the Admin 2.0.

Hope u did not lose too much coke money.
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
But to blanket SR admins with "They are drug dealers" isn't accurate at all. If I ran a shadow market, I wouldn't give two damns what people were selling. And I sure wouldn't be a drug dealer. I would just take my fee for each listing, not know or care what it was for, and be happy to provide a free market for ANY type of goods.

I'm sure anyone from SR2/3/4/5/whatever will raise similar arguments if they're ever in front of a jury.  The track record of success of such arguments is pretty mixed, and the penalties draconian when they lose.
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
I imagine that he got scared that he would be caught by the feds, so instead of taking the profit over time and risking his ass, he decided that he was much safer just stealing the funds all at once.

The admin is continuing to operate the site and diverting the site's commission to pay everyone back.

The site rakes in millions of $ worth of BTC per month in commission.  Nobody in their right mind would jeopardize that income for a measly 4000BTC.

Nobody in their right mind would risk a mandatory minimum life sentence to deal drugs for any amount of money.

They get paid out of the fee for listings being bought, regardless of what those listings are. If someone sells a pair of shoes on SR, the site gets paid a fee. The problem is that the admins see that silly money being tossed around and choose to get involved in the illicit sale of illegal material.

But to blanket SR admins with "They are drug dealers" isn't accurate at all. If I ran a shadow market, I wouldn't give two damns what people were selling. And I sure wouldn't be a drug dealer. I would just take my fee for each listing, not know or care what it was for, and be happy to provide a free market for ANY type of goods.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
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You are doing it wrong. It goes on the top of your head.



legendary
Activity: 1344
Merit: 1000
The fact that the admins are continuing to run the site and pay everyone back disproves the "they took the money and ran in fear of getting caught" theory.

Call me back when they do something other than SAY they're going to pay everyone back.  You know, like when they actually DO pay everyone back.  I seem to remember pirateat40 saying he was going to pay everyone back, too.  And at least half the other scammers who waltzed off with other people's money.

same branches of people behind this are the same people behind mtgox, silk road 1 and utopia its not a total blind guess either, they have a penchant

for drugs and ponzi's ultimately they will attack the network itself that's why you should acquire hard assets as part of your portfolio,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932012_global_financial_crisis
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
The fact that the admins are continuing to run the site and pay everyone back disproves the "they took the money and ran in fear of getting caught" theory.

Call me back when they do something other than SAY they're going to pay everyone back.  You know, like when they actually DO pay everyone back.  I seem to remember pirateat40 saying he was going to pay everyone back, too.  And at least half the other scammers who waltzed off with other people's money.
legendary
Activity: 1512
Merit: 1000
The Dude Of DopeCoin
Come on, silkroad 3.0!

Haha. I'm sure the next market to thrive will be decentralised in nature. SR will have to implement a better escrow system like some other marketplaces are doing.

HAHAHA DOPECOINS.com BRING on silk 3.0!!
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
I imagine that he got scared that he would be caught by the feds, so instead of taking the profit over time and risking his ass, he decided that he was much safer just stealing the funds all at once.

The admin is continuing to operate the site and diverting the site's commission to pay everyone back.

The site rakes in millions of $ worth of BTC per month in commission.  Nobody in their right mind would jeopardize that income for a measly 4000BTC.

Nobody in their right mind would risk a mandatory minimum life sentence to deal drugs for any amount of money.
legendary
Activity: 2212
Merit: 1199
Silk Road needs to die along with Gox.


it is Like Silk Gox Smiley

or MtRoad Smiley

should make that fusion ?Cheesy
full member
Activity: 518
Merit: 100
I imagine that he got scared that he would be caught by the feds, so instead of taking the profit over time and risking his ass, he decided that he was much safer just stealing the funds all at once.
legendary
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Merit: 2965
Terminated.
Silk Road needs to die along with Gox.
global moderator
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Merit: 2606
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Silk Road will die.  primarily cause i have to enter the login captcha code like 12 times before it will let me in.

and that whole "we recommend laundering money" thing ticks me off.

i'm not a fucking criminal why should i launder BTC i legally paid for

Works for me usually, but I can't browse the site for long without getting a message about updating servers which I'm sure is just BS.
newbie
Activity: 42
Merit: 0
Silk Road will die.  primarily cause i have to enter the login captcha code like 12 times before it will let me in.

and that whole "we recommend laundering money" thing ticks me off.

i'm not a fucking criminal why should i launder BTC i legally paid for
global moderator
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Come on, silkroad 3.0!

Haha. I'm sure the next market to thrive will be decentralised in nature. SR will have to implement a better escrow system like some other marketplaces are doing.
newbie
Activity: 14
Merit: 0
Come on, silkroad 3.0!
legendary
Activity: 1176
Merit: 1005
But anyway. The thread was about ~4000 BTC being "stolen" from SR 2.0, not the debates over the "intelligence" of running a mail-order drug empire.

The very nature of the business speaks for itself as to the wisdom of treating it as some kind of online wallet.  Of course, even an "honest" online wallet is a crap shoot, and the only place to keep BTC (you don't mind losing) is under your own control in your own wallet (and even there taking it offline into cold storage is preferable).
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