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Quote from: playboy654 on February 11, 2019, 05:53:57 AM

if I also searching for this type of gambling much more then Poker so I have to try this and it makes the result more positive and it will definitely be giving the rocket more than that I used before

Just a heads up, I should let you know the site had a lot of trouble to keep traffic. I can understand why, mainly because of how challenging it was for some users, and how the traffic is always seasonal. A few people come, don't find a lot of others, and leave. The cycle continues and each weeks only a handful of users play until they don't. I try to stick around to keep touch, but I just thought you should know that there isn't a lot of users on the site.

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Quote from: KingZee on November 20, 2018, 05:42:54 AM

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, do you guy know any good websites that aren't based on pure luck?

Besides Poker and similar card games, I've recently found a website (thanks LoyceV) where you create bots to compete against others and make money in the process.

Website is DrownHim. I'm not promoting this website because I'm affiliated with it, but because I would enjoy some competition!

Come join and see if you can beat the winrate of my own bot.

But like I said, I'm not affiliated with that website, so I would really enjoy any other websites you've come across, I like games where it's not all luck, and you get to test your own skill and logic to maximise your winnings. Of course full skill-based games like chess, checkers, or whatever aren't really a suggestion because there's 0% luck element involved, in addition to the fact that they're almost "complete" games, where a good enough bot will practically never lose.

So yeah! Let me know of any other games like Poker/Drownhim.

if I also searching for this type of gambling much more then Poker so I have to try this and it makes the result more positive and it will definitely be giving the rocket more than that I used before

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Quote from: KingZee on November 20, 2018, 05:42:54 AM

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, do you guy know any good websites that aren't based on pure luck?

Besides Poker and similar card games, I've recently found a website (thanks LoyceV) where you create bots to compete against others and make money in the process.

Website is DrownHim. I'm not promoting this website because I'm affiliated with it, but because I would enjoy some competition!

Come join and see if you can beat the winrate of my own bot.

But like I said, I'm not affiliated with that website, so I would really enjoy any other websites you've come across, I like games where it's not all luck, and you get to test your own skill and logic to maximise your winnings. Of course full skill-based games like chess, checkers, or whatever aren't really a suggestion because there's 0% luck element involved, in addition to the fact that they're almost "complete" games, where a good enough bot will practically never lose.

So yeah! Let me know of any other games like Poker/Drownhim.

Skill based games is just increasing the probability of winning and its not a sure win even it based on skills. Remember that those who have similar skills are the ones who is chosesn to battle into so the odds are also 85% skills 15% luck. Yes! Even skillful players are lost to rookies.

Playing skills based games are always tempting many gamblers to test their skills inside the games, and I think they learn from many sources. But we need to remember to have a limit for the bets, so we don't have to lose too much money, and we can try our skills in the next days. We can have a chance to win the game by playing in many times, but we can also have a chance to get lost too so remember that we also need to know when to quit the games.

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Quote from: KingZee on November 20, 2018, 05:42:54 AM

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, do you guy know any good websites that aren't based on pure luck?

Besides Poker and similar card games, I've recently found a website (thanks LoyceV) where you create bots to compete against others and make money in the process.

Website is DrownHim. I'm not promoting this website because I'm affiliated with it, but because I would enjoy some competition!

Come join and see if you can beat the winrate of my own bot.

But like I said, I'm not affiliated with that website, so I would really enjoy any other websites you've come across, I like games where it's not all luck, and you get to test your own skill and logic to maximise your winnings. Of course full skill-based games like chess, checkers, or whatever aren't really a suggestion because there's 0% luck element involved, in addition to the fact that they're almost "complete" games, where a good enough bot will practically never lose.

So yeah! Let me know of any other games like Poker/Drownhim.

Skill based games is just increasing the probability of winning and its not a sure win even it based on skills. Remember that those who have similar skills are the ones who is chosesn to battle into so the odds are also 85% skills 15% luck. Yes! Even skillful players are lost to rookies.

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Quote from: KingZee on November 20, 2018, 05:42:54 AM

I'm not sure if this has been asked before, do you guy know any good websites that aren't based on pure luck?

Besides Poker and similar card games, I've recently found a website (thanks LoyceV) where you create bots to compete against others and make money in the process.

Website is DrownHim. I'm not promoting this website because I'm affiliated with it, but because I would enjoy some competition!

Come join and see if you can beat the winrate of my own bot.

But like I said, I'm not affiliated with that website, so I would really enjoy any other websites you've come across, I like games where it's not all luck, and you get to test your own skill and logic to maximise your winnings. Of course full skill-based games like chess, checkers, or whatever aren't really a suggestion because there's 0% luck element involved, in addition to the fact that they're almost "complete" games, where a good enough bot will practically never lose.

So yeah! Let me know of any other games like Poker/Drownhim.

Did you play this gambling and how much you can get rewarded from this site and is this trustable and and how much you can get from this type while gambling.

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betting strategy is a skill. not just martingale but other patterns can be useful to extend the life of any bankroll.

I like to play around with strategies that involve specific "set" of wins/losses. So like win 1 go to next bet amount, win 2 go to next, etc.

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Quote from: Ucy on February 09, 2019, 02:43:02 AM

Bookmarked.. Will give this a try.
I really don't like things that are based on luck. Better to "gamble" with those that require skill, time and effort to make money.
Could end up being my first gamble if all goes well.

luck based games are more rewarding imo , not because of the reaward money but because of the excitement and thrill when you won the game . you know luck is does not come out oftenly . gambling games that are skill based dont give you assurance to win a profit because if they are , then all gamblers are now millionaire and there wil be no gambling business because they are now bankrupt .

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Bookmarked.. Will give this a try.
I really don't like things that are based on luck. Better to "gamble" with those that require skill, time and effort to make money.
Could end up being my first gamble if all goes well.

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I think a skill game site should be developed solely for open face chinese poker and other card games. The game plays mostly like bridge than real poker imo.

And I have been bugging Bitdice about this... Yatzy!

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Quote from: Patatas on November 30, 2018, 07:59:28 PM

I don't trust the bot making game because you are always competing against someone better than you.

That's the challenge in any skill-based game Wink

But the reason for choosing bots over manual play is to prevent people from colluding. Playing together against another player gives you an advantage. With the bots, you can't select who gets drowned.
I'm not sure how this problem is handled in poker.

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Quote from: Patatas on November 30, 2018, 07:59:28 PM

Speaking technically, if it's skill based, it's not called gambling, its called a challenge. And there are ways you can challenge other players without the need of a host. I liked the ChopCoin game as someone mentioned above but that's the closest I have come across. I don't trust the bot making game because you are always competing against someone better than you.

It's not necessarily true, I can agree with you for games like chess, checkers.. But poker for example, is a skill based game where you can control what rounds to play based on your hand, but its still affected by luck.
ChopCoin I liked too, but you can't be perfect at it, there are also a lot of environment factors that can affect if you can win or not.

Sportsbetting, even rock paper scizzors can be a skillbased game, because a smart person's winrate will largely surpass a newbie's, it still means that sometimes, due to randomness factors, even a calculated bet can backfire.

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Speaking technically, if it's skill based, it's not called gambling, its called a challenge. And there are ways you can challenge other players without the need of a host. I liked the ChopCoin game as someone mentioned above but that's the closest I have come across. I don't trust the bot making game because you are always competing against someone better than you.

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Quote from: KingZee on November 27, 2018, 03:00:44 PM

Before every round starts you can see information about entry fee, number of players, and more rules about each different mode.

Yes, i have seen that but what i do mean is already answered by LoyceV.

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Quote from: milewilda on November 27, 2018, 02:30:46 PM

One question, how can we able to find a queue that do have bigger bets? Ive been lurking to check out and i cant find it.

There used to be rooms with much bigger bets (say 300-1000 bits). I expect Admin to bring those rooms back once the site has more players.

Oh i see, sadly this game didnt able to get such enough players.

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Quote from: milewilda on November 27, 2018, 02:30:46 PM

One question, how can we able to find a queue that do have bigger bets? Ive been lurking to check out and i cant find it.

There used to be rooms with much bigger bets (say 300-1000 bits). I expect Admin to bring those rooms back once the site has more players.

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Quote from: milewilda on November 27, 2018, 02:30:46 PM

Your Bot is on top which its normal for players to use it up with having some good percentage stats. One question, how can we able to find a queue that do have bigger bets? Ive been lurking
to check out and i cant find it.

I think the website UI is pretty easy to browse, but there are different rooms for each pool :

Before every round starts you can see information about entry fee, number of players, and more rules about each different mode.

Currently the maximum is 1 bit buy-in, which is supposed to be a player-only room, but there aren't enough players for it. You can check out Another Chance, and 20 Moves. Admin just introduced a "maximum drowns" system to prevent over aggressive bots, so 20 Moves 7Ds means 7 drowns allowed per bot every round.

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Quote from: KingZee on November 27, 2018, 01:57:47 PM

Quote from: milewilda on November 27, 2018, 10:41:37 AM

Zee test bot - newbie kingzee

Good bot to be used.lol

What a entertaining game.

Edit: Seems like you can make easy win with newbie/bot section.

Lol!

Glad you enjoy my bot. The newbie & manual section is the easiest, so I kept the bot for it public, its not very good though so you can probably improve it. Try to make a bot for the other sections with bigger pools! Apparently ive been making too much money and admin is on a quest to shut me down by upgrading his own bots.

Your Bot is on top which its normal for players to use it up with having some good percentage stats. One question, how can we able to find a queue that do have bigger bets? Ive been lurking
to check out and i cant find it.

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Quote from: milewilda on November 27, 2018, 10:41:37 AM

Zee test bot - newbie kingzee

Good bot to be used.lol

What a entertaining game.

Edit: Seems like you can make easy win with newbie/bot section.

Lol!

Glad you enjoy my bot. The newbie & manual section is the easiest, so I kept the bot for it public, its not very good though so you can probably improve it. Try to make a bot for the other sections with bigger pools! Apparently ive been making too much money and admin is on a quest to shut me down by upgrading his own bots.

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Zee test bot - newbie kingzee

Good bot to be used.lol

What a entertaining game.

Edit: Seems like you can make easy win with newbie/bot section.

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Quote from: shield132 on November 27, 2018, 07:55:42 AM

Agree but if you think like that than there is no way to play 100% skill based game online in fair situation, everyone can play bot against you and there is a high chance you'll lose. But on another hand there is a game which I just reminded, something like penalties. You have 3 chance, your opponent has 3 chance too and you kick penalties to each other. One kicks and another one is goalkeeper, one chooses corner and GK chooses also, it's 100% luck but fair lucky based games, then they swipe the roles and so on.

Another example that was listed here was the Agar.io clone who play for btc leaderboard.
The website I mentioned in my post where you have to write rules about your bot to climb.

Both of there are still skill-based, but automating something to have a 100% winrate is impossible. For chess, and similar solved games, it is proven impossible for a human player to beat the best chess bots with enough computation time.
In addition to the fact that it's very easy to get access to such bots, chess or similar board games are just not worth risking money on.

Also kindly try to remember websites whenever you mention examples, I'd be interested but I need to try them to judge

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Quote from: KingZee on November 26, 2018, 08:18:58 AM

a lot of ~snip~

It's stupid to play chess for btc. There is no way people aren't botting their way in public chess rooms.

Agree but if you think like that than there is no way to play 100% skill based game online in fair situation, everyone can play bot against you and there is a high chance you'll lose. But on another hand there is a game which I just reminded, something like penalties. You have 3 chance, your opponent has 3 chance too and you kick penalties to each other. One kicks and another one is goalkeeper, one chooses corner and GK chooses also, it's 100% luck but fair lucky based games, then they swipe the roles and so on.

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