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Quote from: rodskee on December 15, 2021, 05:19:50 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 14, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

At first I did not get the question. How can playing slots have a strategy? Isnt slot machine have a winning ration set by a casino? It has to be over some number, and in US every state has its own minimum return-to-player. And it is always a random win. You cant play 90 games and be sure that 91 game will be a 100% win. You can lose 100 times in a row, or you can get several big wins in a row. It is always a random. So I think thinking of a strategy in slots is stupid.

Sorry, there is a strategy - hit "bet" until you only have money for the taxi to get home. That strategy always work.

Well OP clearly asking "If there Is" meaning he really has no Idea at all and this is a general question if someone has Hidden strategy that they cans hare for all
Though i doubt that there is a accurate strategy at all.
because Slot Machine betting is the luck based game that never that i encounter to have great strategy at all.

So yes There is No strategy that can assure wins but at least the best one is to Limit your capital and limit your desired win so frustration will not come
across and you will just Play with Fun and not totally for wins.

Exactly thank you, I am not sure what else I have to say here that this was simply just a question. I don't know how that was very hard to understand. I really didn't think there was any kind of strategy but I was genuinely curious if there were any sort of strategies at all that maybe mathematically made since by a sheer numbers standpoint.. but I of course have always realized that it's really just random ( unless they are rigged which is a whole other story ). Locking this topic.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 14, 2021, 11:43:30 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 14, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

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Of course, the casino always has an advantage over the player, but even in the slots there is a chance to crash the jackpot, so many players during a pleasant pastime for any game in the slots try their luck trying different well-known strategies, such as Pyramid, Parlay and others. I think that here it is important to understand that none of the strategies can not guarantee a win and play gambling need only for fun.

Conclusion - there is not strategy to win in slots. Just a holy random. The more you play, the more you test your fortune.

When I was a kid, I've testes the strategy OP mention - "continue playing slots that were used by other player for a long period". Never had a great success. There were rumors, that Columbus slots more often "give" rewards. You just have to get "ships" which gives free rolls and you will win a lot. These rumors were not confirmed lots of times Cheesy

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Quote from: iv4n on December 15, 2021, 05:35:38 AM

Quote from: rodskee on December 15, 2021, 05:19:50 AM

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So yes There is No strategy that can assure wins but at least the best one is to Limit your capital and limit your desired win so frustration will not come
across and you will just Play with Fun and not totally for wins.

There's no strategy for winning all the time, but there should be some plan, some strategy, what you are going to do with your bankroll, what games you will play and how will you play them! I guess it's pure luck if someone opens a random game and plays all in the first bet! But if someone knows at least something about bankroll management and games you play then you can create some strategy that can give you higher chances of winning! Even the simplest strategy is some kind of strategy, and that can make a big difference from making random bets on random payouts and hoping for the best!

The only strategy I know is that since if we plan our bank roll and set something limits towards our capital then provably we can avoid losing any huge amount which can make us stress or fell want to revenge at the game. And any other strategy what been introduce is just a pure flowering words since we cannot really say it will work at real time since most of all we are dealing on pure luck on that kind of game.

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I don't really play slots that often, especially in physical casinos since the RTP percentages there are lower compared to those you can find on online platforms. I have heard gamblers say the same thing that you mentioned in your OP. That it's a good idea to wait for a slot machine to "swallow" a lot of money until it's ready to spit something out. But in reality, it's all random. If you are lucky enough, you can win the jackpot on your first spin or spend your whole life playing and never win anything.

Statistically, you should always go for the slots with the highest RTPs because those will spit out more money to players long-term. But have you ever seen a gambler in a physical casino ask the staff how high the RTP is? I haven't and they don't really care.

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Quote from: rodskee on December 15, 2021, 05:19:50 AM

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So yes There is No strategy that can assure wins but at least the best one is to Limit your capital and limit your desired win so frustration will not come
across and you will just Play with Fun and not totally for wins.

There's no strategy for winning all the time, but there should be some plan, some strategy, what you are going to do with your bankroll, what games you will play and how will you play them! I guess it's pure luck if someone opens a random game and plays all in the first bet! But if someone knows at least something about bankroll management and games you play then you can create some strategy that can give you higher chances of winning! Even the simplest strategy is some kind of strategy, and that can make a big difference from making random bets on random payouts and hoping for the best!

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 14, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

At first I did not get the question. How can playing slots have a strategy? Isnt slot machine have a winning ration set by a casino? It has to be over some number, and in US every state has its own minimum return-to-player. And it is always a random win. You cant play 90 games and be sure that 91 game will be a 100% win. You can lose 100 times in a row, or you can get several big wins in a row. It is always a random. So I think thinking of a strategy in slots is stupid.

Sorry, there is a strategy - hit "bet" until you only have money for the taxi to get home. That strategy always work.

Well OP clearly asking "If there Is" meaning he really has no Idea at all and this is a general question if someone has Hidden strategy that they cans hare for all
Though i doubt that there is a accurate strategy at all.
because Slot Machine betting is the luck based game that never that i encounter to have great strategy at all.

So yes There is No strategy that can assure wins but at least the best one is to Limit your capital and limit your desired win so frustration will not come
across and you will just Play with Fun and not totally for wins.

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Quote from: dunfida on December 14, 2021, 06:39:48 PM

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Quote from: Boristhecat on December 14, 2021, 04:56:10 AM

Quote from: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

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Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

Can it be difficult because without motivation the meaning of the game disappears? What is the interest to press the button (or pull the handle) of the slot machine for hours if you do not hope for something positive (winning)? In most slot machines, the gameplay is dull and monotonous, if you do not think about winning, you can find many other more interesting entertaining games.

What motivation? Maybe if you want to win on that game, that can be your motivation and I am sure you will use more money to win but I do not think you can easily win that game since the slot needs luck. I prefer to play for entertainment and enjoyment and never try to chase the winning because that will not be possible for me to win much money from the slot. Well, maybe I can win but not much money. Some casinos have a feature for a gambler to set how many rolls the gambler can use and after pressing the button, the game will roll until it reaches the target.

Motivation could really have two possible effects on someones mindset and actions and it will vary on how someone would be handling up themselves
and made out wise decisions.

I do agree on the sense that there some sort of motivation to make it look interesting and entertaining once you do make
some activity.
Interest will vary on each person and actions will vary on your intent.

If they can be wise, they will know that gambling is not for making money but only for enjoyment and having fun and they will not use more money because they don't chase the win money. But if they can not control themselves and not be wise in gambling, they will forget about that and still use more money to gamble. It depends on how we can use the motivations and I am sure that we know what we should do. Maybe our motivation in gambling is to search for an activity that can help us release our stress and have fun by playing the game. That will help us to enjoy the game.

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Quote from: mindrust on December 09, 2021, 02:31:07 PM

It is a luck based game just like dice. There is no strategy. You may be lucky or not. That's all you need to know about these games. As far as I know only Blackjack is kind of based on your skill and the rest of the games are more or less are based on your luck.

Even sports is based on some luck.

Do you really in search of a skill based game?

Play chess. Chess is based on skills. What? It doesn't sound cool? The opponents are too smart? That's what happens when the game is based on zero luck and all skills. It suddenly becomes harder than gambling because there are far too many skillful players out there.

When you got zero skills, gambling > skill based games.

And admit it, you are gambling because you have no skills. Then why do you need a strategy?

What in the fuck are you talking about? It’s a simple question with some fare narratives, nor did I say there were any strategies, I was asking, hence the entire purpose of this thread Cheesy

. If you think that blackjack is the only strategy based casino game then you clearly have very little clue about gambling at all. Of course luck is always involved in any gambling, that’s part of the whole point.

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Quote from: pieppiep on December 14, 2021, 05:21:27 AM

Quote from: Boristhecat on December 14, 2021, 04:56:10 AM

Quote from: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

-skip-
Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

Can it be difficult because without motivation the meaning of the game disappears? What is the interest to press the button (or pull the handle) of the slot machine for hours if you do not hope for something positive (winning)? In most slot machines, the gameplay is dull and monotonous, if you do not think about winning, you can find many other more interesting entertaining games.

What motivation? Maybe if you want to win on that game, that can be your motivation and I am sure you will use more money to win but I do not think you can easily win that game since the slot needs luck. I prefer to play for entertainment and enjoyment and never try to chase the winning because that will not be possible for me to win much money from the slot. Well, maybe I can win but not much money. Some casinos have a feature for a gambler to set how many rolls the gambler can use and after pressing the button, the game will roll until it reaches the target.

Motivation could really have two possible effects on someones mindset and actions and it will vary on how someone would be handling up themselves
and made out wise decisions.

I do agree on the sense that there some sort of motivation to make it look interesting and entertaining once you do make
some activity.
Interest will vary on each person and actions will vary on your intent.

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Quote from: Fatunad on December 14, 2021, 05:59:53 PM

Quote from: madnessteat on December 14, 2021, 11:43:30 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 14, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

^

Of course, the casino always has an advantage over the player, but even in the slots there is a chance to crash the jackpot, so many players during a pleasant pastime for any game in the slots try their luck trying different well-known strategies, such as Pyramid, Parlay and others. I think that here it is important to understand that none of the strategies can not guarantee a win and play gambling need only for fun.

If slots were money eater totally then no one would be interested on playing it on the first place.It is just it do really need up lots of lossers for a 1 big winner and this is where interest and entertainment do comes specially if people around do able to look those jackpot winners which it cant really be avoided to have some boost up of
feeling which it do really raises up good impressions and interest towards slot games which it isnt surprising.Speaking of strategy then theres none
i could definitely say.

If someone wants a better chance to go home with winnings, better go to sportsbetting or play poker. But that is, if you know very well at least one sports or you know how to play poker. Because these games have higher chance of winning if you have the knowledge on this. But with slots, don't expect that you can win after many tries because that's not an assurance that you get winnings. It is luck-based, so can you calculate your luck? Nope.

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Quote from: madnessteat on December 14, 2021, 11:43:30 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on December 14, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

^

Of course, the casino always has an advantage over the player, but even in the slots there is a chance to crash the jackpot, so many players during a pleasant pastime for any game in the slots try their luck trying different well-known strategies, such as Pyramid, Parlay and others. I think that here it is important to understand that none of the strategies can not guarantee a win and play gambling need only for fun.

If slots were money eater totally then no one would be interested on playing it on the first place.It is just it do really need up lots of lossers for a 1 big winner and this is where interest and entertainment do comes specially if people around do able to look those jackpot winners which it cant really be avoided to have some boost up of
feeling which it do really raises up good impressions and interest towards slot games which it isnt surprising.Speaking of strategy then theres none
i could definitely say.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on December 14, 2021, 06:50:47 AM

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Of course, the casino always has an advantage over the player, but even in the slots there is a chance to crash the jackpot, so many players during a pleasant pastime for any game in the slots try their luck trying different well-known strategies, such as Pyramid, Parlay and others. I think that here it is important to understand that none of the strategies can not guarantee a win and play gambling need only for fun.

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At first I did not get the question. How can playing slots have a strategy? Isnt slot machine have a winning ratio set by a casino? It has to be over some number, and in US every state has its own minimum return-to-player. And it is always a random win. You cant play 90 games and be sure that 91 game will be a 100% win. You can lose 100 times in a row, or you can get several big wins in a row. It is always a random. So I think thinking of a strategy in slots is stupid.

Sorry, there is a strategy - hit "bet" until you only have money for the taxi to get home. That strategy always work.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on December 14, 2021, 04:56:10 AM

Quote from: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

-skip-
Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

Can it be difficult because without motivation the meaning of the game disappears? What is the interest to press the button (or pull the handle) of the slot machine for hours if you do not hope for something positive (winning)? In most slot machines, the gameplay is dull and monotonous, if you do not think about winning, you can find many other more interesting entertaining games.

What motivation? Maybe if you want to win on that game, that can be your motivation and I am sure you will use more money to win but I do not think you can easily win that game since the slot needs luck. I prefer to play for entertainment and enjoyment and never try to chase the winning because that will not be possible for me to win much money from the slot. Well, maybe I can win but not much money. Some casinos have a feature for a gambler to set how many rolls the gambler can use and after pressing the button, the game will roll until it reaches the target.

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Quote from: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

-skip-
Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

Can it be difficult because without motivation the meaning of the game disappears? What is the interest to press the button (or pull the handle) of the slot machine for hours if you do not hope for something positive (winning)? In most slot machines, the gameplay is dull and monotonous, if you do not think about winning, you can find many other more interesting entertaining games.

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Quote from: goinmerry on December 13, 2021, 07:42:20 PM

Quote from: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

Why people cant just accept the reality? They do really love to attach on things which they presume that it would work but they would find out that
its not relevant on the time that they had lost big on following those things.

They know that but they just want to increase their winning chance. Actually, it's ok that gamblers are behaving like that instead of doing random luck-attracting methods. They don't want to just rely on luck but like others are saying, we can't beat an online casino but maybe there's a catch in public casinos.

Slot machines aren't made to give profit easily but when it comes, a good amount can be earned. It opens up an idea to others that there's might be a work how to win at those. We should just let them do what they want.

Maybe those people still have the curiosity to know how good their chance to win is to try it for more.
But slots games tempt many gamblers to keep coming back to them and playing longer as they want to test their luck by spending their money.
If they can realize that the luck needs the right time to come, they should not play too long because that can impact their funds.
Those people rely on their luck to win, but luck will not always come to them.

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Quote from: TravelMug on December 13, 2021, 09:02:27 PM

it just shows that there are no strategy here. So as you have said, just enjoy the game, specially if you hit those 2 bonus characters or what we call 'near misses".

This is what exactly we need to conclude at the end of the day for each and every gambling type. There cannot be any strategy could exist to beat the house; even if anything is possible then it will be fixed in next upgrade of algorithms. This is how gambling industry do work and survive. Gamblers who understand this "universal truth", never waste their time and efforts on finding a strategy for any gambling.

Quote from: xSkylarx on December 13, 2021, 11:10:05 PM

I think there are still people finding ways to make a strategy here. Usually their strategy is about probabilities, and most of them are mathematicians, which I find amazing.

No, people who are not experts in science and maths may not try to manipulate their luck factor but people who are aware of how probability theory works may try to make it work in favour of them in order to beat the house. So, nothing amazing here; people who are good at permutation and combination and all other related calculations may keep trying with different gambling strategies. I am not surprised to be honest.

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Quote from: 24Kt on December 13, 2021, 06:37:50 PM

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Quote from: swogerino on December 13, 2021, 06:16:05 AM

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

I just accept the fact that there is no strategy when it comes to this game, which is based on luck. Don't know why people still insist on finding the best strategy where you can only get a headache if you are trying to make some sense with this game. Because there's really no mathematical formula on this. Just enjoy your game and don't think too hard.

I agree, but I think there are still people finding ways to make a strategy here. Usually their strategy is about probabilities, and most of them are mathematicians, which I find amazing. They are really working hard to make their own strategy. We ca understand them and we are saying that they are just wasting their time since slots are purely luck, but they still continue. We may not understand them, but we should also respect them because it is their choice. But as for me, it is really pure luck and I don't have a strategy.

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Quote from: STT on December 13, 2021, 08:54:21 PM

Theres some near PHD level mathematical analysis of the various slot machine strategy I saw discussed under payout percentage on wiki via confirmed results and recognizing that it does have a series of cycles to wins and losses, both micro and macro eventually allowing for the very largest payout but only once every two hundred thousand plays I think it was listed at. This is just one game on one machine and in the modern era there is an infinite supply of varying combinations, to narrow it down at all like used to be possible in the level pulling days is increasingly remote. Just play what you like is best imo, if you win be happy and remember what worked then bet higher if you got more confidence but never forget its just a game

Yeah, but an average player can only have like 1000-10000 spins and we all get busted.

So 200,000 spins mathematically is not possible for us ordinary gamblers unless you play minimum but then again you will not win big and still losses in the end.

And it just shows that there are no strategy here. So as you have said, just enjoy the game, specially if you hit those 2 bonus characters or what we call 'near misses".

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Theres some near PHD level mathematical analysis of the various slot machine strategy I saw discussed under payout percentage on wiki via confirmed results and recognizing that it does have a series of cycles to wins and losses, both micro and macro eventually allowing for the very largest payout but only once every two hundred thousand plays I think it was listed at. This is just one game on one machine and in the modern era there is an infinite supply of varying combinations, to narrow it down at all like used to be possible in the level pulling days is increasingly remote. Just play what you like is best imo, if you win be happy and remember what worked then bet higher if you got more confidence but never forget its just a game

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