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Quote from: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

That should be the main reason but others want to cheat on something not real. Gamblers always find a way to win as it will give them good winnings in return. Good luck finding a strategy to beat a slot machine as that will be a hard challenge. If only these people will play for entertainment, their gambling will be stress-free and no room for any inconvenience.

Gamblers, especially those that treat gambling as a source of income, won't stop forming strategies that might help them play luck-based games like slots, dice, roulettes, or any games that need pure luck. There are even professional ones doing that but I don't know if they were able to keep up in the long run.

For us average gamblers, we cannot just easily say to them that just enjoy it because we are not die-hard gamblers like them. If they think there are strategies to win against luck-based games, we should just allow them to do it.

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Quote from: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 07:21:49 PM

Why people cant just accept the reality? They do really love to attach on things which they presume that it would work but they would find out that
its not relevant on the time that they had lost big on following those things.

They know that but they just want to increase their winning chance. Actually, it's ok that gamblers are behaving like that instead of doing random luck-attracting methods. They don't want to just rely on luck but like others are saying, we can't beat an online casino but maybe there's a catch in public casinos.

Slot machines aren't made to give profit easily but when it comes, a good amount can be earned. It opens up an idea to others that there's might be a work how to win at those. We should just let them do what they want.

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Quote from: 24Kt on December 13, 2021, 06:37:50 PM

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Quote from: swogerino on December 13, 2021, 06:16:05 AM

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

I just accept the fact that there is no strategy when it comes to this game, which is based on luck. Don't know why people still insist on finding the best strategy where you can only get a headache if you are trying to make some sense with this game. Because there's really no mathematical formula on this. Just enjoy your game and don't think too hard.

Why people cant just accept the reality? They do really love to attach on things which they presume that it would work but they would find out that
its not relevant on the time that they had lost big on following those things.

Slot games are purely based on luck and there's no way you could able to influence your winning rate on something other peoples saying when
it comes to strategies.

Play for entertainment and enjoyment and never ever stress yourself on playing just for longing on hitting those combinations.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on December 13, 2021, 06:36:18 PM

I never play slots in traditional casinos because in my country gambling is illegal so casinos are almost non existent here

but I've heard from a friend of mine who currently lives in Cambodia that offline slot machines in traditional casinos can be manipulated easily, but not everyone can take advantage of this loophole

right now the fairest thing in my opinion is slots in online gambling, so I have no intention of playing slot in offline casinos

A few or a dozen years ago, there were still possibilities to manipulate offline slot machines. People forged tokens or used magnets to slow down the inner drums. At the moment all slot machines are electronic, so there really isn't much difference between online and offline slot machines. Except for the room you are in while you play.

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Quote from: harizen on December 13, 2021, 06:29:57 PM

Quote from: swogerino on December 13, 2021, 06:16:05 AM

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

I just accept the fact that there is no strategy when it comes to this game, which is based on luck. Don't know why people still insist on finding the best strategy where you can only get a headache if you are trying to make some sense with this game. Because there's really no mathematical formula on this. Just enjoy your game and don't think too hard.

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I never play slots in traditional casinos because in my country gambling is illegal so casinos are almost non existent here

but I've heard from a friend of mine who currently lives in Cambodia that offline slot machines in traditional casinos can be manipulated easily, but not everyone can take advantage of this loophole

right now the fairest thing in my opinion is slots in online gambling, so I have no intention of playing slot in offline casinos

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Quote from: swogerino on December 13, 2021, 06:16:05 AM

The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

That makes sense and I'm sure some gamblers are already aware of that. It's just that, they need to make it right at the right time where that machine will suppose to give a win on who's sitting during that time. It's really tough but that's how playing slots machine is supposed to be.

Since no strategy in-game can be applied, others will try to beat the machine's code and algorithm instead. Of course, can only be applied on slots machines at physical casinos as no way they can do it in online casinos.

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To all the people here who believe that playing after some big player have lost big amounts of money increases your chance I am sorry but this is not true.I have been working long ago on a Casino and they were having some Novomatic slot machines together with some other brands like Apex and a few others I don't remember now.The problem is that each spin is completely independent of each other and even when someone has lost big,the machine can continue to provide losing spins for another long period before it is going to give back some of that money to other players.I only saw this happened once,one big player lost 20000 USD and when the other entered after he got away he bet 0.10 USD and won 1000 USD but that happened only once and I never saw it happening again,so this happens pretty rarely at 0.01% of the cases I would say.

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Quote from: dbc23 on December 12, 2021, 06:33:34 PM

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I find it hard to believe that there is a strategy to consistently over the long term make money on slots. Some people have a reputation for being good observers and guess when they are about to hit a jackpot, although this has been called into question by several comments in the thread. I understand that it does have a certain logic as far as physical slots are concerned. For there is a limit to the number of coins they can have. As the box fills up, they have to give prizes to empty it. But I think that even if there are people who have a certain instinct for this, I don't think they tend to get it right consistently in the long run.

I agree with you if there was a strategy most casinos would fold up or scrab out slot completely from their list of games. It's just about the luck and nothing more. A strategy might work once and that could be a lucky day and the next time around it betrays your instincts. So no strategy stands the taste of time

That's why it's very difficult to win slots games or other gambling games as no 100% strategy that can successfully help a gambler to win. The strategy itself needs to develop more and that's why a gambler will still search for the right strategies. The strategy can help us but don't always depend on the strategy because the casino will always check their system and change it if they think that it needs to modify and prevent the gamblers from winning many times.

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Quote from: STT on December 12, 2021, 07:58:22 PM

Yes completely valid as the slot machine will have a payout ratio it must stick to, I think this is part of the law in some countries that regulate the industry. So just on a simple take if you follow a series of losses the machine is now heavily in profit and is far more likely to pay out. There should be alot written about this strategy and the various dynamics and rulesets for the machine to follow that you can rely on, like any system of probability its not certain but better odds then normal sure.
Its so well known I can remember decades ago a Bar tender in a club I went to topped up his wages doing as much. He was friendly to everyone making food etc. but he was pretty crafty I guess. Not really illegal so far as I know but obviously he is there 8 hours or more and can see directly who wins or loses and roughly how much, it gets quiet and he hops on for 5 minutes to take some cash back out the machine. I'm sure over the course of a year he would make 4 or 5 figures this way just continually gaining the money after people had lost and had to leave to get their lift etc.

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The minimum theoretical payout percentage varies among jurisdictions and is typically established by law or regulation. For example, the minimum payout in Nevada is 75%, in New Jersey 83%, and in Mississippi 80%.

Yes, many years ago such a system worked and many people knew about it (even in this topic, many participants immediately described this algorithm), but this is hardly relevant today. Firstly, if slot machines are connected to an online network, then we cannot monitor all of them at the same time, therefore we do not know which event is more likely to happen next - a loss or a win. Secondly, if ordinary players knew about such an algorithm, then the regulators and the owners of slot machines knew about it. This means that, most likely, to complicate the work of such an algorithm, the betting distance at which the slot machine should fit into the legal interest was significantly increased.

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Yes completely valid as the slot machine will have a payout ratio it must stick to, I think this is part of the law in some countries that regulate the industry. So just on a simple take if you follow a series of losses the machine is now heavily in profit and is far more likely to pay out. There should be alot written about this strategy and the various dynamics and rulesets for the machine to follow that you can rely on, like any system of probability its not certain but better odds then normal sure.
Its so well known I can remember decades ago a Bar tender in a club I went to topped up his wages doing as much. He was friendly to everyone making food etc. but he was pretty crafty I guess. Not really illegal so far as I know but obviously he is there 8 hours or more and can see directly who wins or loses and roughly how much, it gets quiet and he hops on for 5 minutes to take some cash back out the machine. I'm sure over the course of a year he would make 4 or 5 figures this way just continually gaining the money after people had lost and had to leave to get their lift etc.

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The minimum theoretical payout percentage varies among jurisdictions and is typically established by law or regulation. For example, the minimum payout in Nevada is 75%, in New Jersey 83%, and in Mississippi 80%.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 09, 2021, 01:11:31 PM

One of my best friends and I would travel to the local casino some years back from time to time. Wasn't a very fun casino but it was about as good as we could get for those times as gambling was very restricted back then. He was a big fan of playing slots and always seemed to have some sort of strategy. He would look for players who were sitting at a machine for a long period of time and then play them. There were a couple other things he did that he called "strategy" but I can't remember what they were.

My question for you guys, is there any strategy you know of for slot machines ? I think this more so applies to in person casinos but maybe online as well.

Does waiting to get on a machine that gets heavily played a legit strategy? Does it make more sense to play different types of machines or play one machines for a long period of time? Etc etc..

Anyone who plays slots a little longer has their own strategies. The one you are talking about is perhaps the most popular. I have also heard many times that when someone plays for a long time, and in fact loses a lot, it is good to sit after him, because then we have a high probability that the machine is full and will give us some of what someone has lost before us.

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Quote from: Poker Player on December 12, 2021, 03:02:46 AM

I find it hard to believe that there is a strategy to consistently over the long term make money on slots. Some people have a reputation for being good observers and guess when they are about to hit a jackpot, although this has been called into question by several comments in the thread. I understand that it does have a certain logic as far as physical slots are concerned. For there is a limit to the number of coins they can have. As the box fills up, they have to give prizes to empty it. But I think that even if there are people who have a certain instinct for this, I don't think they tend to get it right consistently in the long run.

I agree with you if there was a strategy most casinos would fold up or scrab out slot completely from their list of games. It's just about the luck and nothing more. A strategy might work once and that could be a lucky day and the next time around it betrays your instincts. So no strategy stands the taste of time

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Quote from: Boristhecat on December 12, 2021, 05:35:58 PM

I have never played slot machines, but I am familiar with their structure and history. Tens of years ago, gamblers were actually able to find one vulnerability or another in physical slot machines, so the struggle between the services providing them and the gamblers was really intense.
But now, as far as I know, all the devices in the casino are united into one network and, in principle, there is no difference where you play - online or in offline casinos, your chances of finding some strategy (based on vulnerability) are almost zero now.

That to say that "no strategy it works well", it is probably just our luck brings us to win a few bucks but lose more. That is the undeniable thing in gambling and we can never be hopeful that this make us rich either. And at the moment that you win the jackpot price, they even ask you how it did it, and sometimes they even try to accuse you about cheating...that seems these casinos don't pay huge amounts rather than being happy collecting every gambler's money.

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I have never played slot machines, but I am familiar with their structure and history. Tens of years ago, gamblers were actually able to find one vulnerability or another in physical slot machines, so the struggle between the services providing them and the gamblers was really intense.
But now, as far as I know, all the devices in the casino are united into one network and, in principle, there is no difference where you play - online or in offline casinos, your chances of finding some strategy (based on vulnerability) are almost zero now.

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Quote from: macson on December 12, 2021, 02:56:09 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 09, 2021, 01:11:31 PM

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My question for you guys, is there any strategy you know of for slot machines ? I think this more so applies to in person casinos but maybe online as well.

Does waiting to get on a machine that gets heavily played a legit strategy? Does it make more sense to play different types of machines or play one machines for a long period of time? Etc etc..

from my experience playing slot machines in offline casinos, the machine has a pattern, what you have to find is the pattern of the machine because you can't 100% lose or win. i usually switch from one machine to another machine when i lose 7 times from one machine and this method has worked for me a few times.

This is something interesting, everywhere there is some strategy being followed. Switching between machines bringing in win is nice. Slot machines are really profiting the owners, because the machines can be altered with the codes. As said learning the pattern of the respective machine will give winning, but to study the pattern won't happen in a short. There are users who have learned the casino scripts and won in the long term.

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There's no real strategy with the slot machine only people makes this because they think it might an effective thing for them. for example people. the day there's a pattern you need to play like touching 5 times the button before making a pull to win the game. It's all about the people's experience that already passes to other people because it's effective to them so they expect why not to them too. It's all about the luck of the olayer and the programmable outcome of the slot game.

That's borderline superstitious already. But just like the majority said here, slots are based on luck and there are no perfect strategy. You either are very luck and win big when you play or unlucky (most of the times) and lose all your money in just like 100 or 1000 spins.

And that is the main reason why I stay away from slots because of the risk and the chances of you to win are very slim. Much better to do sports betting in my opinion, but that's another topic.

Even we do say that slots aren't really that good to look at but there are still people who do really love on playing it despite of the odds of losing their money.

When it comes to strategies then this is something wont really be that possible and to those things that had been observed are just pure coincidence and there's no proof that it does really work.

People does have their own beliefs and whenever they do seem that it do works then they would apply it most of the time.

The element of surprise and the ambiance of the game what make people like to keep playing the game also some other try what other achieve especially when someone hit the jackpot or got a huge amount of money for playing slot but as you said if we talk strategy this is kinda impossible to say that there it is since all in that game is random maybe we won on certain times we play by using what we though the best strategy we have but for sure this will never give us long term profit especially bad luck came.

Element of surprise is there and some people do really get some thrill and entertainment and that's why they do love on playing slots despite of the odds or chances of winning.It is true that we do have different beliefs into things including on gambling just like on what others been saying.So it do ends up on someones preference whether they do play or not according into their interest.Not all would really be that enjoying on pushing those roll buttons
but rather loves to play with those strategic kind of play or games which sparks more interest.

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Quote from: Johnyz on December 09, 2021, 05:54:10 PM

What’s the probability to win on Slot Machines? i guess its unknown since the slot machines are system operated and I wonder how the house set up the machines and how much its limit of reward for a day.

Unless they make the code open-source, you can't really know.

Quote from: Johnyz on December 09, 2021, 05:54:10 PM

m been thinking a lot about the possible strategy and seriously, I can’t find any and it frustrates me so stop looking for such strategy, I just started to play the game without any stress.

That's how you should have been doing it since the beginning. Once you understand that gambling isn't a job, everything falls into place. Gambling is a job only if you are the house. If you are playing, you are going to be the loser in the long run.

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Quote from: macson on December 12, 2021, 02:56:09 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 09, 2021, 01:11:31 PM

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My question for you guys, is there any strategy you know of for slot machines ? I think this more so applies to in person casinos but maybe online as well.

Does waiting to get on a machine that gets heavily played a legit strategy? Does it make more sense to play different types of machines or play one machines for a long period of time? Etc etc..

from my experience playing slot machines in offline casinos, the machine has a pattern, what you have to find is the pattern of the machine because you can't 100% lose or win. i usually switch from one machine to another machine when i lose 7 times from one machine and this method has worked for me a few times.

You have to make research how RNG works and how developers applied the actual RNG during gameplay. The overall house edge will be a clear winner in terms of mathematical and statistical advantages, there is no Holy strategy that can save gamblers from the invisible hand, unfortunately. The overall loss gonna be a minimum of $4 in the case of house edge is 96% on the slot machine, the wager count will show the exact loss amount if you were able to spin the same slot for millions of times.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 09, 2021, 01:11:31 PM

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My question for you guys, is there any strategy you know of for slot machines ? I think this more so applies to in person casinos but maybe online as well.

Does waiting to get on a machine that gets heavily played a legit strategy? Does it make more sense to play different types of machines or play one machines for a long period of time? Etc etc..

from my experience playing slot machines in offline casinos, the machine has a pattern, what you have to find is the pattern of the machine because you can't 100% lose or win. i usually switch from one machine to another machine when i lose 7 times from one machine and this method has worked for me a few times.

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