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Quote from: Beparanf on November 13, 2024, 03:49:22 AM

I don’t know what’s the real reason but do you experience this too?

That's the slot game, RTP is one of the methods or strategies that is often used and commonly applied by online casinos, the RTP formula in slot games has become a favorite for some players, that's something that gamblers generally feel.

Many slot advertisements offer RTP in certain slot games, when we actually play, we never get RTP wins, that's just casino speculation to attract players, sometimes as you have experienced where RTP wins are obtained in other slot games such as Gates of Olympus, Sweet Bonanza, Lucky Twins Wild, Black Panther and so on.

For this reason, don't be provoked and tempted by offers of high RTP on certain slots, play on slots that you believe in, unexpectedly there is an attractive RTP to get.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on November 16, 2024, 09:13:58 AM

Sometimes newer casinos set the RTP lower to make it harder for players to win and take their bankroll. They just started and don't wanna go broke in the 1st week. You can go to Pragmatic play website and check the RTP, there you will find the normal RTP. Then whatever casino you are playing on, you can look at the game description and check to see what they have the RTP set at. If it's set lower than the normal, don't play slots on that casino.

It will probably also depend on the casino's capital. Casinos with larger capital could take big losses even if they've just started their business/operation. Plus, because larger casinos can take those losses, then they probably shouldn't lower the games' RTP to make them another attractive choice for those users of the other casinos with larger capital. If they have that advantage over smaller casinos, then there's a higher probability that they will be doing that.

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Quote from: o48o on November 13, 2024, 01:49:19 PM

Casinos have no hand in rigging the slots because casinos don't own the slots. When you are playing online slots, you might be accessing them via casino, but in reality you are connected to the servers of the provider of those slots (like pragmatic play).

This is kind of confusing. There are some casinos, if you click on a game to play, it will take you to another site. That game is not owned by the casino but by a third party site that the gambler is taking to when about to play the game. But there are some casinos that you will click on the game and you will still be in the casino. That games is owned by the casino. But the games are just a replica of one another and they are programmed in a way that the casino will be making huge amount of money from its customers.

And you are basing this to what exactly?

First of all, user doesn't experience it like it would "go to other site", it just transfers necessary data from provider's site and to user it seems like casino is doing everything.
If some site would actually be hosting illegal replicas, you shouldn't play in that casino ever. But i don't even believe that without any proof, so show me a casino that does that please and i will confirm if your accusation is correct. It would need to be really small casino to pull that off without no one going after them, and small casinos like that wouldn't have enough users or money to pull off such scams.

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Sometimes newer casinos set the RTP lower to make it harder for players to win and take their bankroll. They just started and don't wanna go broke in the 1st week. You can go to Pragmatic play website and check the RTP, there you will find the normal RTP. Then whatever casino you are playing on, you can look at the game description and check to see what they have the RTP set at. If it's set lower than the normal, don't play slots on that casino.

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Some Pragmatic slot game are difficult to wins or hit big multiplier so we don't have to chase the win. But if you can wins in the other casinos, maybe you can still playing slot game in certain casino and leave the other casinos.
You don't have to risk your money by playing in that casino because you feel it is difficult to win in there. But you must realizes that winning in the slot game is not easy and if you still playing slot game, you must be careful because slot game can be very tempted.
The real reason why you can not hit the big multiplier is you don't have luck. That is what we needs to realize so we don't have to chase the wins.

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Quote from: dansus021 on November 14, 2024, 09:30:22 PM

Slot RTP on every casino speculation welcome to gambling freenn hahha I mean what you said sometimes can be true but all of this is just about the luck and maybe some casino have better RTP and some other are don't it just part of their marketing too in my opinion.

When you talk about pragmatic I meant this slot provider is hype all over the place maybe this is one of the reasons you rarely hit big fish because so many fisher in the pool and you are not the lucky one, and the other provider might have less fisherman

I agreed with you, indeed when discussing the gambling type of slots, luck is above everything, those who use tricks, patterns, or strategies that are said to be easy to get a victory do not guarantee it will definitely be able to get a win even though they believe in the strategy they have if indeed unlucky then there will be no victory that can be obtained. I wonder what the obvious purpose of the casino that provides my own RTP does not really understand.
Of course not a few who play this game, even if it is said to be a certain amount at a certain time, of course many people play it, and some people who are not fortunate to experience defeat but even so there are also those who can get victory only the number of people who win with the losers It's very much different for example 1/100.

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Quote from: Coin_trader on November 15, 2024, 06:52:38 AM

Technically you’re right about game provider is the only one who set RTP on slot games however we don’t know whether a casino can request to change their RTP to slot provider based on their preference. This kind of agreement can be protected by an NDA to avoid public notice.

I’m not suggesting that casino doing this manipulated RTP but there’s a possibility that this can be true since slot games are close source which means there’s no way to verify the game specs.

RTP manipulation happens but mostly on unlicenced and unregulated casinos that are not audited and monitored by third party and that's why I always advise playing slot games on a regulated and licensed casinos where RTP are audited monitored by GLI a thirty party regulatory body, they help monitor these things and make sure casinos found guilty of RTP manipulation loses their license..

There's literally no way any reputable casino would want to risk losing it license due to RTP manipulation so they always never do it.

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Quote from: Beparanf on November 13, 2024, 03:49:22 AM

I created this thread because I have some curious speculation about slot RTP from different casino. I’ve been playing a lot of Pragmatic slot games on a specific casino but never hit anything big but when I changed the casino I’m playing but still same game I manage to hit multiple huge win ranging from x5000 to x9000 almost consecutively.

From my observation, I'd say RTP has everything to do with the frequency at which a win is hit on slot games, but has nothing to do with the timings at which these wins are hit! It's always a different ballgame and just like you said, it differs from casino to casino,...
See, the algorithm at which a win is distributed especially in casino games don't really have a fixed pattern...WHY? If they did, you(and everyone else) would study 'em pattern and the casino will lose everything after at the snap of a finger... Infact, the casinos are more vulnerable than y'all are since they deal with the public -- a number that surpasses the inhabitant of atleast one state!
That being said, everything is resuffled over and over again to ensure that if anyone must win, it'll be cus they've been lucky and not because they found a pattern to win.

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This is just my feeling but sometimes it’s very hard to win on some casino while it’s easy to win on different casino playing same game.

Exactly! That's how it goes eitherways. What do you think is the reason why most people don't dedicate themselves to one casino all the time? They wanna try out other varieties cus they feel they maybe Lucky out there....

You've had enough suggestions already... I'm wondering if you replied to anyone on this thread just yet?

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Quote from: Rustam Meraj on November 15, 2024, 05:02:32 AM

Your experience with Pragmatic slot games is interesting. You have noticed different winning patterns when switching casinos even with same game making you wonder if payout rate varies between casinos. However RTP is usually set by game maker not casino. For example NetEnt Mega Joker has high RTP of 99%. Other top games include Blood Suckers 98% and Starmania 97.87%. Keep in mind that RTP is calculated over time and does not guarantee individual wins. Other factors can influence your experience such as random outcomes and win frequency and also bonus rounds and casino specific promotions or bonuses.

Technically you’re right about game provider is the only one who set RTP on slot games however we don’t know whether a casino can request to change their RTP to slot provider based on their preference. This kind of agreement can be protected by an NDA to avoid public notice.

I’m not suggesting that casino doing this manipulated RTP but there’s a possibility that this can be true since slot games are close source which means there’s no way to verify the game specs.

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Quote from: Josefjix on November 15, 2024, 04:46:21 AM

Quote from: seoincorporation on November 13, 2024, 08:42:35 AM

Since slots works based on RTP then is all about luck to get one of those huge wins. You could get one of those huge wins on any casino, I don't think the reason of those wins was the fact that you moved to other casino.

And another factor to have in mind is that some users must lose firts, that way you will be able to get those huge wins.

What most gamblers don't realize is that whatever big wins they get, someone else has lost those big bags, and whatever you lose, someone else wins it. Players provide the majority of liquidity on gambling platforms. I'm not a slot gambler, but I occasionally spin freebets on slots games, and I've never paid much attention to RTP scores.

I assume that's why I keep losing in slots games. What is the recommended RTP score before placing a bet?

Gambling is a business where there is a profit gained by the host or casino and is obtained by the player, but the advantage is definitely gained by the host and the number of wins obtained by the casino is re -been to the player who is lucky to get a victory, the number of players who are Experiencing that defeat is a victory for the casino, but even so there are also some players who can get a victory but not many number whether it's victory or the player.
Some people who do gambling tend not to pay attention to the existing RTP value and in my opinion it is not a big problem because the victory that is in the same type of slot depends on the luck of each individual, there are people who are fully sure to the RTP but I still say the victory he gets is because luck.

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Your experience with Pragmatic slot games is interesting. You have noticed different winning patterns when switching casinos even with same game making you wonder if payout rate varies between casinos. However RTP is usually set by game maker not casino. For example NetEnt Mega Joker has high RTP of 99%. Other top games include Blood Suckers 98% and Starmania 97.87%. Keep in mind that RTP is calculated over time and does not guarantee individual wins. Other factors can influence your experience such as random outcomes and win frequency and also bonus rounds and casino specific promotions or bonuses.

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Quote from: seoincorporation on November 13, 2024, 08:42:35 AM

Since slots works based on RTP then is all about luck to get one of those huge wins. You could get one of those huge wins on any casino, I don't think the reason of those wins was the fact that you moved to other casino.

And another factor to have in mind is that some users must lose firts, that way you will be able to get those huge wins.

What most gamblers don't realize is that whatever big wins they get, someone else has lost those big bags, and whatever you lose, someone else wins it. Players provide the majority of liquidity on gambling platforms. I'm not a slot gambler, but I occasionally spin freebets on slots games, and I've never paid much attention to RTP scores.

I assume that's why I keep losing in slots games. What is the recommended RTP score before placing a bet?

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Slot-based casinos are currently making a big splash in the gambling community. Slot-based casinos are usually full of excitement so that gamblers can be attracted. RTP provides this excitement to the casino so that the casino can be made more attractive. When you or I enter the gambling community, various such programming casinos are presented to us by the casino and their main purpose is to attract us to the casino. I think this programming casino will make you believe that in their fund you will have the possibility of becoming rich due to the immense potential. And if you have any doubts, you can also participate in live casinos by excluding this slot programming casino.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on November 13, 2024, 05:30:28 AM

Casinos are designed to win money from gamblers.

I would say to hoover up gamblers money. "Win" would mean the use of fair algorithms/gears that secure the same chances for both parties involved into gaming. I don't believe into non-biased technique used any casino ^{either land-based or online} in the course of their operation, however sometimes gamblers may reckon upon the chance of success ^{if they are lucky}.

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Slot RTP on every casino speculation welcome to gambling freenn hahha I mean what you said sometimes can be true but all of this is just about the luck and maybe some casino have better RTP and some other are don't it just part of their marketing too in my opinion.

When you talk about pragmatic I meant this slot provider is hype all over the place maybe this is one of the reasons you rarely hit big fish because so many fisher in the pool and you are not the lucky one, and the other provider might have less fisherman

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It's just perception, there are other things that are different, the same game has a different minimum bet and there are even providers that change to ubtc and not to dollars, or mbtc (if you play in BTC) for the same game. But the RTP in the long term will be the same.

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No I don't think the difference is almost negligible to be notice, if you play hundreds spins which often happens if you are a slot player, you are very likely to notice it and to get higher losses with the slot with the smaller RTP (or higher house edge if you prefer) so I think RTP is one of the most important criteria when you are a player in the long run. Volatility shouldn't be forget of course, but RTP is more important for me. I've experienced the difference with several games.

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Quote from: Beparanf on November 13, 2024, 03:49:22 AM

I’m aware that RTP of slot games in every casino is just the same. Some casino has some higher RTP set but the difference is almost negligible to be notice.

RTP is definitely not the same and the difference, in the long run, is terrible, a measly 1% in RTP means that you will lose close to 15% more of your money after 10 rolls of your initial sum, from 95 to 94 it will cut the time you lose half your money by 20%.

Quote from: Beparanf on November 13, 2024, 03:49:22 AM

I created this thread because I have some curious speculation about slot RTP from different casino. I’ve been playing a lot of Pragmatic slot games on a specific casino but never hit anything big but when I changed the casino I’m playing but still same game I manage to hit multiple huge win ranging from x5000 to x9000 almost consecutively.

You know what they say? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence! So if you say things like this and you're so sure about it, how about we also speak on real cases with real evidence, otherwise it's just a claim in a sea of claims where everyone can say anything they've dreamed and think of it as the real deal.

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Quote from: o48o on November 13, 2024, 01:49:19 PM

Casinos have no hand in rigging the slots because casinos don't own the slots. When you are playing online slots, you might be accessing them via casino, but in reality you are connected to the servers of the provider of those slots (like pragmatic play).

This is kind of confusing. There are some casinos, if you click on a game to play, it will take you to another site. That game is not owned by the casino but by a third party site that the gambler is taking to when about to play the game. But there are some casinos that you will click on the game and you will still be in the casino. That games is owned by the casino. But the games are just a replica of one another and they are programmed in a way that the casino will be making huge amount of money from its customers.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 13, 2024, 08:18:34 AM

Quote from: Beparanf on November 13, 2024, 03:49:22 AM

I don’t know what’s the real reason but do you experience this too?

I have experienced this but it was just beginners luck. I think the RTP differs from one casino to another. You didn't mention whether the time you hit multipliers are on you first plays. If it is so, I may just say it is beginners luck or rather there is the thing casinos do when the beginner wins big and then subsequent plays are not as the first one. This is just my theory though.

So the OP shouldn't complain first but look back and he might realize that he also hit a good win on the current casino or previous casino that he was playing before he moved on the other new one. About the beginner's luck, I'm not sure if there is such thing as that but luck must have no favouritism. Whether you are new or an old player, luck can strike at you, or not, because there are also newbies who started badly at first and eventually they only got improved.

Also, it may not really be luck that make us win but it can be intentionally done by the casino for us to keep on coming back at them. They prioritize newbies because this is where it all began and they can't have a loyal member eventually if without them.

As for the RTP, it is usually seen on the games but I think you are right that it can also differ from one casino to the other because there is this shady and scammy casinos and it is hard for us to win on them, no matter what. So it is important to choose only a trusted brand. There are still some that aren't really on the mainstream but generous, so it is also up to our feelings and experiences. When a beginner wins big, the casino can congratulate them and there is also this KYC that welcomes them.

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