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Quote from: panjul07 on September 14, 2021, 08:08:03 AM

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Even if you are playing against other players, it does not mean that it will be easy to win.

Well, compare it to winning in slots, it's definitely much easier to win since poker is leaning towards being skill based rather than chance based which the slots are leaning more into.

Dude, there are many types of poker:
- Live Casino such as Casino Hold'em or similar by evolution et al. You play against the house.
- P2P Poker where you play against other players (but still there's a fee to the house).
- Video Poker where you play against the house.

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Quote from: panjul07 on September 14, 2021, 08:08:03 AM

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Even if you are playing against other players, it does not mean that it will be easy to win.

Well, compare it to winning in slots, it's definitely much easier to win since poker is leaning towards being skill based rather than chance based which the slots are leaning more into.

You can say it is easy to win if you are skillful and you play against newbies, but if you play against players that has better skill and has more experience than you, it wont be easy for you.
But lets back on topic, we are not talking about playing poker against other players as we are talking about video poker.
So what do you think between VIDEO poker vs slot, which one do you think is easier to get win?

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If you're good with poker, it's easy to win since it's against other players, on the other hand though, even if you've played long enough with slots, you're still at the mercy of the odds and the machine, no matter how good you are with pulling those levers, you're up against the house and the house always wins.

This would be the case if the percentage of newcomers was always high, but this has not been the case for a long time (more than 5 years). Now the main audience of poker rooms is professional players whose skill is approximately equal and on average in fights with them you will receive zero profit, while the casino continues to take rake, which means that the game will be unprofitable.

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Obviously you don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore, there is no bluff in video poker. And as Betwrong pointed out above, you don't need any real skill at video poker except knowing what are the stronger card combinations and what are their probabilities to come out.

You can do bluffing, what did you think? I didn't think through what I said? Your bets can be seen by other players right? Then that means that you can play some bluff with that, as long as there's way that other players can see some of the things that you do, you can always bluff, checking can be a useful one too.

lol you obviously don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore. Please, watch the video posted above by dunfida or try this game in demo mode onto an online casino like the one of the video(ie Stake) if you've never played at this game in a physical or online casino before.
No, your bets can't be seen by other players because there is not any other player in this game.

Quote from: dunfida on September 14, 2021, 07:59:28 PM

This proves out that there are users which do really make out comments or post which is totally out of the topic and just simply understanding the topic title without having an
actual experience about the game which make them look dumb.

About video poker @Kittygalore
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQX8otj0gsM

You might change up your words if you do watch this.

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 27, 2021, 03:42:25 AM

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Quote from: Betwrong on September 20, 2021, 06:08:40 AM

This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.

This thread proves that there are still some people who cant differentiate between Video Poker and pvp Poker. Some people still think/understand that Video Poker = Poker (pvp). Perhaps it is due to lack of experiences or lack of knowledge about Video Poker.

Yes, I've noticed it too. Although it is not necessarily play the games to know how they work, it's still preferable to do, nevertheless. I encourage anyone, who don't know the difference to spend 1-2 hours of their spare time on playing these games. After that, it wouldn't be so hard to see the difference: Video Poker is very much like slot games, and pvp poker is very different.

Well, I can't blame them since I was one of them till Nov 2019. Thanks to MintDice boss who gave the correct answer.

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How about the kind of "poker" that is similar to slots? I don't know what it called though...

The game was like pull the lever, and you receive five random cards. If the player gets a pair, triple, four a kind, flush, etc., he will get x payouts, just like slot games.

Maybe this way you could attract both slots and poker enthusiast.

This is called Video Poker. This is a fundamentally completely different game than what we have been talking about, but yes, this game could in theory be put onto a website and be made provably fair with relatively little difficulty. However, we have no intention to add this game to our website at any point on our roadmap, yet.

Yep, it's similar, but still I don't consider myself as a self-proclaimed video poker expert because it's more difficult. You have to think which cards to keep and which to redraw. There's guilt when you made the wrong decision, unlike slots when I barely feel any guilt even if I lose.

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Quote from: Bitinity on September 22, 2021, 05:43:55 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on September 20, 2021, 06:08:40 AM

This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.

This thread proves that there are still some people who cant differentiate between Video Poker and pvp Poker. Some people still think/understand that Video Poker = Poker (pvp). Perhaps it is due to lack of experiences or lack of knowledge about Video Poker.

Yes, I've noticed it too. Although it is not necessarily play the games to know how they work, it's still preferable to do, nevertheless. I encourage anyone, who don't know the difference to spend 1-2 hours of their spare time on playing these games. After that, it wouldn't be so hard to see the difference: Video Poker is very much like slot games, and pvp poker is very different.

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Quote from: Tessnik on September 26, 2021, 12:05:35 AM

Quote from: Capt00 on September 25, 2021, 06:03:18 PM

Video poker machines pay out far more than slot machines, at least if you choose them wisely. Every jurisdiction is different, however most casinos have a slot machine return of less than 94 percent, and most have at least SOME video poker that returns 98 percent or greater.

However, video poker is kind of hard for novices to understand and can not be said to be user-friendly as its interfaces require some level of technicalities but slot is the first choice for most beginners as one doesn’t need to develop any skills before you can play slot.

At least, they can learn from many sources before they decide to play video poker. Maybe after those novices understand how to play, they will find that video poker is more excited than slot games. After all, both games have the same difficulty to win, especially if we meet a good opponent who can play better than us in a video poker game. But I agree that slot is doesn't need to have skills compared to video poker, so beginners will play the easiest gambling games before playing the other gambling games.

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Quote from: Tessnik on September 26, 2021, 12:05:35 AM

However, video poker is kind of hard for novices to understand and can not be said to be user-friendly as its interfaces require some level of technicalities but slot is the first choice for most beginners as one doesn’t need to develop any skills before you can play slot.

I don't think it's that difficult to learn the game, it depends on the gambler preference as long as he/she is willing to learn the basics of a game it should only take a few minutes or so to get used to the rules.

I used to think poker was difficult but after playing a couple of rounds it eventually became a good learning experience. In terms of difficulty i'd say it's close to blackjack since it also relies on decision making.

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Quote from: Capt00 on September 25, 2021, 06:03:18 PM

Video poker machines pay out far more than slot machines, at least if you choose them wisely. Every jurisdiction is different, however most casinos have a slot machine return of less than 94 percent, and most have at least SOME video poker that returns 98 percent or greater.

However, video poker is kind of hard for novices to understand and can not be said to be user-friendly as its interfaces require some level of technicalities but slot is the first choice for most beginners as one doesn’t need to develop any skills before you can play slot.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 22, 2021, 05:55:03 AM

If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.

I think based on what everyone has mentioned, the general consensus picks on convenience rather than risk.

Poker, being a game that relies both on skill and luck is a time-consuming game. A round of poker would last roughly 10-60 minutes depending on your funds. Though you can leave the table anytime, I still think that the process is too complicated for a person who values time. Unlike in slots, you just pull down the lever and hope that the results would favor you.

Video poker doesn't like that. It's different to the actual poker game. It's still like slots but the different is, you will need to make a decision what to hold or throw. The single round will not last for long same as slots. And if you are lucky, you will hit quick win, same also for slots.

Just complicated to others because you can't see video poker much around unlike slots where you can see it mostly obviously on all casino sites.

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Video poker machines pay out far more than slot machines, at least if you choose them wisely. Every jurisdiction is different, however most casinos have a slot machine return of less than 94 percent, and most have at least SOME video poker that returns 98 percent or greater.

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However, poker is a highly skilled game of statistics and probabilities and it takes a life to master even for the pros. Poker on line is not that different in that sense, so my answer would be poker.

And even if you master it still you cannot have guarantee of always winning as you can't always judge the next move of the person sitting on the table and what cards he is having and it involves classification of personal play as well as deceiving the others like bluff and how you can manage it.Poker skills are on the next level and slots are basically luck based like you place bet and hit the bet button and if lucky you win otherwise not so not much planning and strategic movements are involved which is the case with poker players.

That's a fact but that is why it was called a strategy game, even if your hand was that weak compare to the other hand/s as long as there's some bluff and other deception techniques. They have disparity especially on how it is played, you may rely on luck sometimes on poker but slots is more onto luck.

The two games are fun to play but I think slot is more fun cause it usually base on luck and does not require skill to play it. Once you have luck in playing games I think it can really help to cash out good profits during gambling section. I don't play poker like that so I don't like to play it like the way I play slot which is easy to playing around when less busy.

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I did a post that dealt with the subject in the context of how a "slot" Video poker remained in time despite the evolution (graphics, sound, effects, bonuses, types) of conventional slots, because video poker falls into the category of Slots, with all this we have a game of words that lead us to the same thing, that regardless of whether it is video poker, its evolution or traditional slots, everything is concentrated in a simple click.

A series of clicks, many clicks or the simplicity of the autobet can lead many to decipher things or start looking at the slots like a crystal ball, all this makes them quite entertaining and very playable.

In conclusion, the great skill that must be had then is that you must know how to master the size of the bet in each spin or in the thousands of spins that you are going to make so that tomorrow and the day after you can continue playing.

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Quote from: qwertyup23 on September 23, 2021, 11:34:26 AM

Quote from: Saisher on September 22, 2021, 05:55:03 AM

If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.

I think based on what everyone has mentioned, the general consensus picks on convenience rather than risk.

Poker, being a game that relies both on skill and luck is a time-consuming game. A round of poker would last roughly 10-60 minutes depending on your funds. Though you can leave the table anytime, I still think that the process is too complicated for a person who values time. Unlike in slots, you just pull down the lever and hope that the results would favor you.

That's talking about real poker but since we do talk about video poker then I don't see that strategy would be relevant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQX8otj0gsM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwTu7tmwrIc

You can really tell the difference because it is totally different.

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Quote from: Saisher on September 22, 2021, 05:55:03 AM

If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.

I think based on what everyone has mentioned, the general consensus picks on convenience rather than risk.

Poker, being a game that relies both on skill and luck is a time-consuming game. A round of poker would last roughly 10-60 minutes depending on your funds. Though you can leave the table anytime, I still think that the process is too complicated for a person who values time. Unlike in slots, you just pull down the lever and hope that the results would favor you.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on September 20, 2021, 05:32:44 AM

The house will watch the game and the luck will determine the winner and the loss in both slot games and video poker games and the game itself will not depend on the house. Hmm, that will be difficult to read minds towards your opponent as in video poker, we can not see any expression from the opponent so that could be guessing to predict what they will do in the next step. If a gambler does not want to think seriously about the game, they can select a slot game rather than video poker.

Poker games are often used as an escape to rest the mind from gambling that drains the mind. We are more dominant in feeling entertained if we are given the opportunity to play slots and it can actually make us comfortable for a long time to continue to spend our credit on the slot machine. Until now it has been proven that the large income of the casino house is often obtained from the defeat of players on slot machines. Easy to win also easy to lose faster.

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If I understand correctly, is this parameter configurable and the owner of the slot machine can significantly increase it? I remember how in my country (in wild times) crazy "businessmen" set up a slot machine in such a way that they had a 25-50 percent advantage Grin

And I had a friend who was doing this in the technical part, so we cannot know exactly what advantage the slot machine has.

Exactly most especially if the system is not a provably fair system verifiable one will be left in the dark the real advantage of the machine 🎰 and just keep losing to the House unknowingly. I wish we have a way to test the probability of a house configuration before playing on their machine.

In my example, I was talking about physical slot machines, there is definitely no provably fair system and you can only hope for the honesty of their owner. As for playing online, most of the casinos use this system, although I am sure that the house edge does not exceed 0.5-1 percent even where this system does not exist. It's just that for an online game, this indicator is actually the standard at which everyone is happy - both the player and the casino.

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Quote from: MrcMrc on September 22, 2021, 02:28:30 PM

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If money management is a skill then slots still has some judgement in play, I used to vary my stake played and consider myself more likely to win at some times then others so not completely random exactly. Most of the games stack some kind of sequence that can lead to bigger wins so judging when to place a higher bet could be considered part of it. But certainly Poker is the far more involved game and slots is for when you just want to do something fairly simple and/or are distracted while playing listening to music or whatever.

I don’t agree with the general assertion of a none skill gambling game. Even if a game is based on selection or picking a number, there is always a way to skillfully roll the dice. Slot to me can be viewed as a simple game, but again it requires the level of skill to play it.

But with the easiness of playing slots games, even new people in gambling can play slots without a problem and enjoy their time playing that game.
Slots will have their place in their fan and so do with video poker but those games are different and it will depend on each user, whether they will like to play slots or video poker.
Maybe in this matter, slots are a type of game that does not have to learn many lessons so many people love to play the game.
For people who want to play video poker, you can download the game from your mobile phone. It is available on Google PlayStore with the name Video Poker - Free!

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Quote from: Kittygalore on September 22, 2021, 05:55:41 AM

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Obviously you don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore, there is no bluff in video poker. And as Betwrong pointed out above, you don't need any real skill at video poker except knowing what are the stronger card combinations and what are their probabilities to come out.

You can do bluffing, what did you think? I didn't think through what I said? Your bets can be seen by other players right? Then that means that you can play some bluff with that, as long as there's way that other players can see some of the things that you do, you can always bluff, checking can be a useful one too.

Hey dude, it is not about pvp poker but it is about Video Poker. Dont you know that they are different game? Should I give you some images or videos about these two games so you can see the differences? I think you need to search some information first about Video Poker and how it differs to Poker (pvp). Once you know how what is and how Video Poker works, I'm sure you will not say that you can do bluff in Video Poker.

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I have played slots but never really tried video poker yet, But some live poker bets Online, don't know if that counts as Video poker.
Slots are just press and results whereas the Poker I played Had multiple inputs on whether to continue to make 2nd bet or in River.

So it's up to the user to decide what they prefer.

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