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September 22, 2021, 01:28:30 PM
#89
If money management is a skill then slots still has some judgement in play, I used to vary my stake played and consider myself more likely to win at some times then others so not completely random exactly.     Most of the games stack some kind of sequence that can lead to bigger wins so judging when to place a higher bet could be considered part of it.   But certainly Poker is the far more involved game and slots is for when you just want to do something fairly simple and/or are distracted while playing listening to music or whatever.
I don’t agree with the general assertion of a none skill gambling game. Even if a game is based on selection or picking a number, there is always a way to skillfully roll the dice. Slot to me can be viewed as a simple game, but again it requires the level of skill to play it.
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September 22, 2021, 04:55:41 AM
#88
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Obviously you don't know what you're talking about Kittygalore, there is no bluff in video poker. And as Betwrong pointed out above, you don't need any real skill at video poker except knowing what are the stronger card combinations and what are their probabilities to come out.
You can do bluffing, what did you think? I didn't think through what I said? Your bets can be seen by other players right? Then that means that you can play some bluff with that, as long as there's way that other players can see some of the things that you do, you can always bluff, checking can be a useful one too.
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September 22, 2021, 04:55:03 AM
#87
If you have a poll for this, you'll get an idea on what gamblers are favoring more, there are in favor of luck based and there are in favor of skill best and there are in favor of both, in my case I prefer luck-based I treated gambling as a luck-based game meant to have fun, skill-based is time-consuming you need to allocate time and exert a lot of effort to analyze.
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September 22, 2021, 04:43:55 AM
#86
This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.

This thread proves that there are still some people who cant differentiate between Video Poker and pvp Poker. Some people still think/understand that Video Poker = Poker (pvp). Perhaps it is due to lack of experiences or lack of knowledge about Video Poker.
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September 22, 2021, 01:30:03 AM
#85
1 what are the similarities between slot games and video pokers?
2 between slot and video poker which is more technical and requires skills to play?
3 what are your personal experiences with both games?
1. Both are risky, and the house has the advantage here but in Video poker you can still analyze the game while in Slots totally not pure of luck on this game.

2. Obviously Video poker are more technical here and requires skills to increase your chance of winning while again in slots its a game of luck and a system generated where the house has the advantage against you.

3. I do have good experience playing slots since I love playing simple games and just having fund despite of the odds, and honestly I didn't play much on Video poker so I'll go for the slots game here.
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September 22, 2021, 01:18:56 AM
#84
If those video poker players have skills, they can try to maximize their chances of winning, but still, both games need luck so they can not have a big expectation to win in a video poker game as they can meet the other player have high skills in poker. If a gambler does not have skills and only depends on his luck, then slots could be the best choice to gamble. I guess each game will have its fan and we do not know how many of those like both games.
Yup, video poker still relies on luck, it's kind of similar to blackjack where no matter how well you know the game you'll eventually get crushed by the house edge.

In terms of the house edge, video poker is one of the lowest (it ranges between 0.5% to 1%) it so it'll come in handy if you're a gambler who prefers to play low edge games.

If I understand correctly, is this parameter configurable and the owner of the slot machine can significantly increase it? I remember how in my country (in wild times) crazy "businessmen" set up a slot machine in such a way that they had a 25-50 percent advantage  Grin And I had a friend who was doing this in the technical part, so we cannot know exactly what advantage the slot machine has.

Exactly most especially if the system is not a provably fair system verifiable one will be left in the dark the real advantage of the machine 🎰 and just keep losing to the House unknowingly. I wish we have a way to test the probability of a house configuration before playing on their machine.
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September 20, 2021, 05:08:40 AM
#83
Poker is largely luck based anyhow but the human element allows you to win with nothing at all, if Video poker were to miss out that element of the game its unfortunate because its alot closer to slots again anyhow.  The one advantage slots can tout in its favor is that the money is contained in the machine from previous winnings and there is a payout ratio due, however I think the ratio is not per slot but the entire casino game or even people say the game ratio might be shared for a whole operator.  

That's how it is with online slots, but I'm not sure how it works with physical ones. Anyway, we are talking about online slots here, right? So no one should expect a big win after a long losing streak. This is a big mistake which makes people to lose a lot of money in some cases. Not always, because you can hit a big win anytime, and it can happen after a long losing streak too. Smiley

In my opinion, there are no similarities, each of these games has its own advantages in betting, sometimes this depends on each gambler, of course those who are more familiar with them will take precedence.
Regarding skill... I think poker is more dominant with additional skills and uses our brain to think more than slots.
But to myself... I prefer to slot games, because I'm more familiar with slots, and it's simpler, just pressing on without thinking more like in poker.

This thread is not about PVP poker, it's about video poker, which is a very different thing.
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September 20, 2021, 05:00:39 AM
#82
If those video poker players have skills, they can try to maximize their chances of winning, but still, both games need luck so they can not have a big expectation to win in a video poker game as they can meet the other player have high skills in poker. If a gambler does not have skills and only depends on his luck, then slots could be the best choice to gamble. I guess each game will have its fan and we do not know how many of those like both games.
Yup, video poker still relies on luck, it's kind of similar to blackjack where no matter how well you know the game you'll eventually get crushed by the house edge.

In terms of house edge video poker is one of the lowest (it ranges between 0.5% to 1%) it so it'll come in handy if you're a gambler who prefer to play low edge games.

If I understand correctly, is this parameter configurable and the owner of the slot machine can significantly increase it? I remember how in my country (in wild times) crazy "businessmen" set up a slot machine in such a way that they had a 25-50 percent advantage  Grin And I had a friend who was doing this in the technical part, so we cannot know exactly what advantage the slot machine has.
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September 20, 2021, 04:32:44 AM
#81
Modern-day gambling has increased the quest to gain more skills in playing the various gambling games, while some games require skills to play them, others are relatively simple to play and require little or no skills in playing them.
As the topic specifies slot and video poker are the most friendly and simple games to play for me but the two have some disparity which I will love us to discuss on this thread.
1 what are the similarities between slot games and video pokers?
2 between slot and video poker which is more technical and requires skills to play?
3 what are your personal experiences with both games?


Slot games is somehow base on luck, the probability of how win from it depends with the house so skills isn't need because you tend to be addicted with it. Unlike with video poker you're going to rely with how the odds will be working, and if you're expert on reading minds towards your opponent then choosing this game is the right choice instead of slot which the house has the advantage.
The house will watch the game and the luck will determine the winner and the loss in both slot games and video poker games and the game itself will not depend on the house. Hmm, that will be difficult to read minds towards your opponent as in video poker, we can not see any expression from the opponent so that could be guessing to predict what they will do in the next step. If a gambler does not want to think seriously about the game, they can select a slot game rather than video poker.
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September 20, 2021, 04:31:15 AM
#80
If those video poker players have skills, they can try to maximize their chances of winning, but still, both games need luck so they can not have a big expectation to win in a video poker game as they can meet the other player have high skills in poker. If a gambler does not have skills and only depends on his luck, then slots could be the best choice to gamble. I guess each game will have its fan and we do not know how many of those like both games.
Yup, video poker still relies on luck, it's kind of similar to blackjack where no matter how well you know the game you'll eventually get crushed by the house edge.

In terms of house edge video poker is one of the lowest (it ranges between 0.5% to 1%) it so it'll come in handy if you're a gambler who prefer to play low edge games.

Unlike with video poker you're going to rely with how the odds will be working, and if you're expert on reading minds towards your opponent then choosing this game is the right choice instead of slot which the house has the advantage.
In video poker there's no need to read minds or analyze their movement since you're against the house. 
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September 19, 2021, 11:42:16 PM
#79
But those people who got luck playing in slots may not duplicate their success many times, compared to poker players who have developed skills on how to win, they will win against weak players over and over again, if you want a good choice, develop your skills on Poker you have many times the chance to win, you cannot be lucky all the time in slots.
Well isn't that the point of what OP wants. Added experience is a bonus to what OP needs, but most of the info he actually needs is just simply how the two differentiate from the other. And if we're considering successful people in the two types OP has given, well that's what it really is. Lucky people in slots, and both lucky and skilled players in video poker. Yes, I agree, you can't always be lucky, but that's the point, successful people in gambling can be simply described as that, lucky.
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September 19, 2021, 05:55:22 PM
#78
Modern-day gambling has increased the quest to gain more skills in playing the various gambling games, while some games require skills to play them, others are relatively simple to play and require little or no skills in playing them.
As the topic specifies slot and video poker are the most friendly and simple games to play for me but the two have some disparity which I will love us to discuss on this thread.
1 what are the similarities between slot games and video pokers?
2 between slot and video poker which is more technical and requires skills to play?
3 what are your personal experiences with both games?


Slot games is somehow base on luck, the probability of how win from it depends with the house so skills isn't need because you tend to be addicted with it. Unlike with video poker you're going to rely with how the odds will be working, and if you're expert on reading minds towards your opponent then choosing this game is the right choice instead of slot which the house has the advantage.
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September 19, 2021, 05:37:09 PM
#77
@OP

If you are gathering experiences on which game is getting more successful people. It's going to be lucky people with slots and skilled players with video poker.

That's all you need to know right?

But those people who got luck playing in slots may not duplicate their success many times, compared to poker players who have developed skills on how to win, they will win against weak players over and over again, if you want a good choice, develop your skills on Poker you have many times the chance to win, you cannot be lucky all the time in slots.
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September 19, 2021, 05:00:48 PM
#76
Agree. Bluffing won't work in video poker, obviously. The video poker game will just show you a set of cards from the computer dealer then decide who you want to hold or discard. We don't know the cards of others so that's where the RNG algorithm takes place that's why it's called luck + skills.

We can't do the typical skills here that are only applicable to physical gambling. Others should read the first page that we are not talking about the usual poker here playing at a poker table with a dealer on the center and players around.

Yes, I agree, it all depends on the cards that have been placed on the table. there is no other way to use skills other than guessing. maybe those who say they missunderstood what video poker or casual holdem poker, like you said. can not bluff . can't raise or call in every round. it all depends on the cards that are already on the table.

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September 19, 2021, 04:59:38 PM
#75
Well in my opinion here --video poker is still enjoyable and I am doing this as a stepping stone before to be a successful player in poker, I can now set on the table and play poker just because of my experience on video poker. Now, the comparison of slot and the video pokers are had numerous ways which is they are both totally different, slot games are purely based on luck while on the other hand video poker even though it is required far fewer skills but it should be you are still knowledgeable about poker, while slot --even you are in a blindfold, you can play slot games.
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September 19, 2021, 04:58:45 PM
#74
So far, it is different versions of gambling. Slots are more addictive and there is no need to have skills on slots. For video poker skills and being able to control emotions can increase your chances to win. The house edge for slots can go up to 10% depending on the providers, the max house edge is around 5% on some casinos. You will never get 1k plus dead game rounds on video poker but slots do this all day to me. Sometimes the ratio goes over 1:3k for catching bonus on slots, it usually pays less than 100x.
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September 19, 2021, 04:43:24 PM
#73
@OP

If you are gathering experiences on which game is getting more successful people. It's going to be lucky people with slots and skilled players with video poker.

That's all you need to know right?
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September 18, 2021, 06:53:00 PM
#72
Slots would definitely fit into the category of requiring "little to no skill".

You can probably also play video poker with little skill but you're not going to be getting the optimal RTP out of doing that.

If you are indeed planning on playing video poker then you should probably consider learning some basic strategies to deal with different types of patterns. That way, you are able get the house edge down to 0.5% or less in most variants of the game (positive RTP is pretty rare even in physical casinos).

I read few pages back that video poker is a 100% luck skill with an explanation. I agree on it partially but I don't understand why choosing what card should be hold isn't considered as a strategy or maybe because I'm not familiar with how the game was played.

Random cards are given to those players. Definitely, we are not just holding cards for nothing so maybe we can consider that video poker is not 100% just luck but also slight skills, not to counter the random hashes but how to increase the chance of winning every round.
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September 18, 2021, 05:24:49 PM
#71
Slots would definitely fit into the category of requiring "little to no skill".

You can probably also play video poker with little skill but you're not going to be getting the optimal RTP out of doing that.

If you are indeed planning on playing video poker then you should probably consider learning some basic strategies to deal with different types of patterns. That way, you are able get the house edge down to 0.5% or less in most variants of the game (positive RTP is pretty rare even in physical casinos).
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September 18, 2021, 05:01:22 PM
#70
Modern-day gambling has increased the quest to gain more skills in playing the various gambling games, while some games require skills to play them, others are relatively simple to play and require little or no skills in playing them.
As the topic specifies slot and video poker are the most friendly and simple games to play for me but the two have some disparity which I will love us to discuss on this thread.
1 what are the similarities between slot games and video pokers?
2 between slot and video poker which is more technical and requires skills to play?
3 what are your personal experiences with both games?

To answer 2, it's obviously video poker.

Apart from certain bonus features that require some user input, most slots are completely passive.

Video poker is much more confusing to the novice and requires training in order to achieve the optimal outcomes. In that sense, I think that you need to carefully consider your options. If you are willing to put in the hours in video poker it can be a lot more rewarding than slots.
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