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Quote from: mu_enrico on May 09, 2023, 05:57:19 AM

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They will. Not all of them, but might be enough for a casino to go bankrupt. The algorithm for the whole process of a bonus program should be something that allows some gamblers to win big and withdraw, to spread the news, and, on the other hand, something that doesn't make the company to go over their promotional budget. It's good if the company is big enough to allow some unexpected expenses, but for a small company it can be a challenge.

I'm pretty sure that they would have a stop mechanism in place that would stop withdrawals if something goes wrong.

That has happened many times in financial institutions when they stop trading, so in a casino I'm sure they have similar mechanisms.

There's no way a casino will go bankrupt because of a bug like that.

Just stop? Without saying a word in advance? I disagree with such policy. I mean, bonuses are are there to attract people to the site. To make them register. If a site has a stop mechanism in place, like you said, they should state it in their ToS: "We reserve the right to suspend your withdrawal if something goes wrong through our fault". Without something like this it's not fair.

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Quote from: len01 on May 13, 2023, 03:01:43 AM

It's good if the company is big enough to allow some unexpected expenses, but for a small company it can be a challenge.

For small casinos, if someone bets big on slots, they will get nervous because they may not be able to pay the player's winnings. It's a pretty common case for slots, so better play at a big casino if you want to bet big, especially on slots.

Big casinos are usually better than small ones in many ways, including the case you mentioned. I wouldn't recommend to bet big for anyone, but still it's better to play on big and recognized platforms.

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Quote from: Bitinity on May 13, 2023, 12:53:02 AM

Did you win this 5000+ with normal spin or you won it by using the buy bonus feature? As I just checked, the buy bonus is more expensive than most other pragmatic games with a range of 100x from the base bet while this game has 2 type of buy bonus, 150x and 300x from the base bet. If you did it with the buy bonus, which one did you use? The 150x or the 300x from the base bet? This game seems to be following the model of Wanted Dead or a Wild by hacksaw but Zeus vs Hades has bigger max win (15,000x).

yes, the buy bonus features are a bit pricey compared to other game types from Pragmatic and I got 5000+ multiples from buying 300x bonus features. but before buying this bonus feature I used the normal spin up to 500+ without getting a return and it seems like my balance is being sucked up fast.

after that I was curious about the very high volatility and decided to buy the bonus feature. indeed, if you look at it a little similar to the game from Hacksaw Wanted Dead or a Wild, but Zeus vs Hades is more interesting and of course the minimum bet amount is very low.

I'm still curious to try again to get a minimum multiplier of 4000x-5000x but waiting for payday first because yesterday's budget ran out at Sweet Bonanza. lol

You will get more in the pay day as if you are VIP chances are high that the monthly bonus will also be in that day or just a bit further so you get two pays at once.I usually the monthly bonus conserve it for sport betting while I love to play with IDR in order to buy the bonus more and may be I give a try to this new game as with 200 RP as base bet I can buy the bonus x300 with just 60.000 RP something like near 4 dollars in total,so I will try to get that x15000 which is much better than x5000 in Gates of Olympus.

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Quote from: Bitinity on May 13, 2023, 12:53:02 AM

Did you win this 5000+ with normal spin or you won it by using the buy bonus feature? As I just checked, the buy bonus is more expensive than most other pragmatic games with a range of 100x from the base bet while this game has 2 type of buy bonus, 150x and 300x from the base bet. If you did it with the buy bonus, which one did you use? The 150x or the 300x from the base bet? This game seems to be following the model of Wanted Dead or a Wild by hacksaw but Zeus vs Hades has bigger max win (15,000x).

yes, the buy bonus features are a bit pricey compared to other game types from Pragmatic and I got 5000+ multiples from buying 300x bonus features. but before buying this bonus feature I used the normal spin up to 500+ without getting a return and it seems like my balance is being sucked up fast.

after that I was curious about the very high volatility and decided to buy the bonus feature. indeed, if you look at it a little similar to the game from Hacksaw Wanted Dead or a Wild, but Zeus vs Hades is more interesting and of course the minimum bet amount is very low.

I'm still curious to try again to get a minimum multiplier of 4000x-5000x but waiting for payday first because yesterday's budget ran out at Sweet Bonanza. lol

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Quote from: len01 on May 12, 2023, 04:37:09 AM

but there is a new game released on Stake.com, namely ZEUS VS HADES which made me interested in trying to play this game with curiosity like 2 games made 1 and even more challenging in the HADES option, the volatility is very high and I feel challenged to try it .

sadly it was my mistake because everytime i try new game i use minimum bet amount and regret a bit when multiplier is 5000x more i get with bet around 0.01$
although a little disappointed but this is the first experience that I share here in a game that has just been released.
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/4MLVRpmOAr

Did you win this 5000+ with normal spin or you won it by using the buy bonus feature? As I just checked, the buy bonus is more expensive than most other pragmatic games with a range of 100x from the base bet while this game has 2 type of buy bonus, 150x and 300x from the base bet. If you did it with the buy bonus, which one did you use? The 150x or the 300x from the base bet? This game seems to be following the model of Wanted Dead or a Wild by hacksaw but Zeus vs Hades has bigger max win (15,000x).

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I rarely play slot games from the Red Tiger provider. And because I'm away from the Pragmatic Play provider, I play slot games from that provider and often play slot games from the Play'N Go provider. The Play'N Go provider often gives me wins, even though it's not too big.

Red Tiger quick good, for people who have a small balance.

However, it takes more time and long to hit the bonus. My experience, I spending 20$-30$ for around 0.1$ and can make spin more than 700-800 spin comparing Pragmatic Play & PlayNGO around 200-300 spin.

However, the result are quite same with PP & PlayNGo. They more often to give a small win, but is good because most the time I using this slot for build up my bankroll.

I've never played 700-800 rounds to get a big bonus or win. I usually only play 100-200 rounds, and I'm out whatever the result. And usually, I can get decent results from those rounds.

I never force myself to play with lots of rounds. And usually, if a slot game has a Buy feature, I often buy it even though the results don't always give big wins.

Thanks for your advice. Maybe sometime I will try to play until 700-800 rounds to see the results. And if, before 700 spins are reached, I can get a big win, I will also definitely quit right away.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on May 12, 2023, 01:50:53 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 12, 2023, 11:15:01 AM

I rarely play slot games from the Red Tiger provider. And because I'm away from the Pragmatic Play provider, I play slot games from that provider and often play slot games from the Play'N Go provider. The Play'N Go provider often gives me wins, even though it's not too big.

Red Tiger quick good, for people who have a small balance.

However, it takes more time and long to hit the bonus. My experience, I spending 20$-30$ for around 0.1$ and can make spin more than 700-800 spin comparing Pragmatic Play & PlayNGO around 200-300 spin.

However, the result are quite same with PP & PlayNGo. They more often to give a small win, but is good because most the time I using this slot for build up my bankroll.

I never had tried Red Tiger and tried a few games in their web page,they sure make a lot of slot machines but it is crystal clear to gamblers who have been playing long enough like myself Grin

that they are years behind in quality compared to Pragmatic Play and Play n Go which make really nice themed slots and much better bonuses than Red Tiger.Apparently Red Tiger is a medium quality provider which different from Play n Go and Pragmatic Play don't go the extra mile to bring that highly addictive game play to the user and that must be the fact why they are not as well known as the other providers mentioned here,I didn't experience any emotion at all and their bonuses lacked a lot compared to PP and P n G.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 12, 2023, 11:15:01 AM

I rarely play slot games from the Red Tiger provider. And because I'm away from the Pragmatic Play provider, I play slot games from that provider and often play slot games from the Play'N Go provider. The Play'N Go provider often gives me wins, even though it's not too big.

Red Tiger quick good, for people who have a small balance.

However, it takes more time and long to hit the bonus. My experience, I spending 20$-30$ for around 0.1$ and can make spin more than 700-800 spin comparing Pragmatic Play & PlayNGO around 200-300 spin.

However, the result are quite same with PP & PlayNGo. They more often to give a small win, but is good because most the time I using this slot for build up my bankroll.

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Quote from: tusandii on May 12, 2023, 07:46:46 AM

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 09, 2023, 05:22:44 AM

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Playing in a pragmatic provider can give quite a fun adrenaline rush, especially when in several rounds there is a lightning bolt that strikes with a large multiplier, so it will be a little tense when you have to see a lot of fractions.
But for now I'm taking a break from slot games because of the series of losses I've gotten, maybe some time in the future I'll try again the luck I can have when playing slots.

I've never tried the slot from Red Tiger but for Play'NGo I haven't played it for a long time and this reminds me of when I first played at the Play'NGo provider and got a pretty big win there, I remember very well Moon Princess was.

I already felt tense at the sight of the lightning coming and desperately hoped that it was good luck coming. But the truth is that everything just went away and didn't give me a win and I can only be disappointed. But that's what gambling is like because it depends on your luck. If you're lucky, winning a lot of money won't take long. But on the other hand, if you are unlucky, you will experience defeat which can hurt you.

I rarely play slot games from the Red Tiger provider. And because I'm away from the Pragmatic Play provider, I play slot games from that provider and often play slot games from the Play'N Go provider. The Play'N Go provider often gives me wins, even though it's not too big.

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 29, 2023, 05:24:36 AM

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Well, it should be like this, don't you think? Bonuses are there to make people "taste" the game, and then, if they like it, they must deposit to play more. Although, it's not exactly like that. Firstly, you can play in demo mode for free as much as you want. Secondly, there are exceptions. I myself won a withdrawable amount couple of times on various sites, starting with just bonus money.

Yeah, a bonus is simply to give a bit of a boost to a player.

If it was something were people actually could withdraw the whole amount without playing and putting some money in, then a lot of people would simply take the money out, making it not work for the casino at all.

The thing is that if people can do it, they will do it.

They will. Not all of them, but might be enough for a casino to go bankrupt. The algorithm for the whole process of a bonus program should be something that allows some gamblers to win big and withdraw, to spread the news, and, on the other hand, something that doesn't make the company to go over their promotional budget. It's good if the company is big enough to allow some unexpected expenses, but for a small company it can be a challenge.

All it takes is one attacker with different IP addresses and a simple bot script to automate the process of using dummy accounts to keep withdrawing bonuses until they have driven the casino to ruin. Although I doubt that would happen without any casino staff noticing something but it could happen over a short period of time before anyone can do anything.

The casino has to make sure their promotion system cannot be exploited. This is probably somewhat of a challenge for smaller/newer casinos that do not have the budget for security audits. But common sense alone should prevent them from implementing unnecessary rules like withdrawing bonuses without having to play with their own money first...

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 10, 2023, 01:15:09 AM

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Quote from: mu_enrico on May 09, 2023, 05:57:19 AM

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Yes, game providers from Pragmatic Play indeed provide multiples as high as that, but we have to realize that slot games are games based on luck, where we have to be careful not to be tempted easily. Maybe you can use the Buy feature to get lucky because I see there is still a chance to get big wins from the Buy feature. But it's better to take a break from playing gambling after experiencing a series of experiences so you can calm your mind.

All types of games at Stake or other casinos can give you a win, but that will depend on your luck. That's what you have to remember. Maybe you can try playing slot games from Red Tiger like I did or from Play'N Go or even NoLimit providers. Geez, I haven't played Mental from NoLimit in a long time Grin

Playing in a pragmatic provider can give quite a fun adrenaline rush, especially when in several rounds there is a lightning bolt that strikes with a large multiplier, so it will be a little tense when you have to see a lot of fractions.
But for now I'm taking a break from slot games because of the series of losses I've gotten, maybe some time in the future I'll try again the luck I can have when playing slots.

I've never tried the slot from Red Tiger but for Play'NGo I haven't played it for a long time and this reminds me of when I first played at the Play'NGo provider and got a pretty big win there, I remember very well Moon Princess was.

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Me too!
I think this is because of social pressure since our friends mainly play and brag about their results in these games. IMO the game itself isn't amazing that we can't play other games because of its quality, but just because it's fun to share the results with our friends Grin

Lol, yes, it's true that sometimes people play slots just to show off and share big wins and I've met a lot of people like that.
to be honest, I'm comfortable with older games for several reasons, such as the appearance and the multiplier that often appears to spur curiosity or a feeling of challenging adrenaline. IMO, the game that just released by Pragmatic is a little less interesting.

Quote from: Bitinity on May 10, 2023, 02:58:38 AM

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but there is a new game released on Stake.com, namely ZEUS VS HADES which made me interested in trying to play this game with curiosity like 2 games made 1 and even more challenging in the HADES option, the volatility is very high and I feel challenged to try it .

sadly it was my mistake because everytime i try new game i use minimum bet amount and regret a bit when multiplier is 5000x more i get with bet around 0.01$
although a little disappointed but this is the first experience that I share here in a game that has just been released.
https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/4MLVRpmOAr

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New member in the family of Gates of Olympus has just released in Stake, it is Gates of Heaven Enhanced RTP. As its name enhanced RTP, the RTP for this new game is 98% while the original Gates of Olympus is 96.5%. All symbols are the same as Gates of Olympus except the scatter symbol. However, based on my own experience, most of pragmatic games with "enhanced RTP" is harder to win big multiplier compared to the original one. I have not tried this new Gates of Heaven as I'm out of gambling funds currently, if one/some of you have tried it, kindly share your experience or maybe share your best hit in this new game.

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Quote from: tusandii on May 09, 2023, 08:37:07 AM

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I don't know about you, but I advise you to choose slot games from other providers instead of playing at Pragmatic Play. I also lost a few dollars playing on that provider so I decided not to play with it for a while.

You can try new games on Stake and I have shared that in the Stake thread Grin

Who knows, of the 18 new types of games that have been added, you can win a lot of money from several slot games. I didn't check the RTP of each game and just chose which one I liked at that time. Happy playing Grin

I chose a pragmatic game provider because the game there has a high enough multiplier if you are lucky and almost all types of pragmatic games can provide this high multiple.
It is none other than my goal only to be able to have a big win when it managed to get a high multiplier.
Maybe I will take a short break from a slot game and choose another game for a while.

Thank you friends for the advice, but I also play at stake.com and play a new game launched by Stake.com.
Alright maybe I should choose other types of games that can indeed provide luck, but what type can give you an impressive victory?

Yes, game providers from Pragmatic Play indeed provide multiples as high as that, but we have to realize that slot games are games based on luck, where we have to be careful not to be tempted easily. Maybe you can use the Buy feature to get lucky because I see there is still a chance to get big wins from the Buy feature. But it's better to take a break from playing gambling after experiencing a series of experiences so you can calm your mind.

All types of games at Stake or other casinos can give you a win, but that will depend on your luck. That's what you have to remember. Maybe you can try playing slot games from Red Tiger like I did or from Play'N Go or even NoLimit providers. Geez, I haven't played Mental from NoLimit in a long time Grin

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Quote from: len01 on May 09, 2023, 02:55:25 AM

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I don't know about you, but I advise you to choose slot games from other providers instead of playing at Pragmatic Play. I also lost a few dollars playing on that provider so I decided not to play with it for a while.

You can try new games on Stake and I have shared that in the Stake thread Grin

Who knows, of the 18 new types of games that have been added, you can win a lot of money from several slot games. I didn't check the RTP of each game and just chose which one I liked at that time. Happy playing Grin

I chose a pragmatic game provider because the game there has a high enough multiplier if you are lucky and almost all types of pragmatic games can provide this high multiple.
It is none other than my goal only to be able to have a big win when it managed to get a high multiplier.
Maybe I will take a short break from a slot game and choose another game for a while.

Thank you friends for the advice, but I also play at stake.com and play a new game launched by Stake.com.
Alright maybe I should choose other types of games that can indeed provide luck, but what type can give you an impressive victory?

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pragmatic Olympus, Starlight Princess and Sweet Bonanza.

Me too!
I think this is because of social pressure since our friends mainly play and brag about their results in these games. IMO the game itself isn't amazing that we can't play other games because of its quality, but just because it's fun to share the results with our friends Grin

It's good if the company is big enough to allow some unexpected expenses, but for a small company it can be a challenge.

For small casinos, if someone bets big on slots, they will get nervous because they may not be able to pay the player's winnings. It's a pretty common case for slots, so better play at a big casino if you want to bet big, especially on slots.

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Again, pragmatists are not on my side, is it because recently I've had such bad luck that I've been unlucky or whatever but unfortunately there's always a loss.
This time I tried a slot game that had just been launched and usually a new game gives a pretty good RTP but this only gave me a loss where I played with a remaining balance of around IDR.200,000 but it was all used up.
I don't know what kind of slots to play but I'm getting bored with some of these games.

I don't know about you, but I advise you to choose slot games from other providers instead of playing at Pragmatic Play. I also lost a few dollars playing on that provider so I decided not to play with it for a while.

You can try new games on Stake and I have shared that in the Stake thread Grin

Who knows, of the 18 new types of games that have been added, you can win a lot of money from several slot games. I didn't check the RTP of each game and just chose which one I liked at that time. Happy playing Grin

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Well congrats on your nice results and maybe you need to consider yourself to take a break for a while to enjoy your profit.

yep, sure.
whenever i get a win, regardless of the amount, i always plan to withdraw 70%-50% and the rest to my betting budget again. so I gamble not using personal money and can still enjoy my winnings.

Quote from: slapper on May 08, 2023, 03:27:46 AM

Have you tried them?

haven't tried at all. even though usually every time a new game is released on pragmatic or hacksaw I always want to try it but right now I'm more focused on some older games from pragmatic Olympus, Starlight Princess and Sweet Bonanza.
maybe someday I will try.

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Quote from: serjent05 on May 07, 2023, 06:58:23 PM

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I have to say that it is your lucky week although you have not hit the max win the the games. Around a week ago you hit nice multiplier in Gates of Olyimpus and a week later you hit another nice multiplier in Starlight Princess. Well congrats on your nice results and maybe you need to consider yourself to take a break for a while to enjoy your profit. Recently I saw many new games from Pragmatic such as the Excalibur Unleased and Wild Bison Charge which seems to be having a new different gameplay or at least it is not just old games with different theme. Have you tried them?

Sometimes in some games they make it so that it appears that you are winning, or getting a rare result often, but my guess is that it's really not something that valuable/rare.

These casinos are the masters of creating the idea that you are constantly winning, or getting ahead, while in reality you are just slowly going broke.

The game system might make us think that we are winning but it will be temporary because often time gambler will look at his bankroll and see that he is losing. The illusionary trap of the slots of making us gain a win by giving us a small amount of winnings regularly is often broken by simply looking at our bankroll.

I agree that slots are created that way so it is a nice thing to look at our funds from time to time to have a fund check to see if the time spent on the slots is profitable or not.

You know the saying: the house never loses. Slots? A prime example. Feels like you're on fire, scoring tiny wins all over. Truth is, those wins just bait you, funneling cash into the machine.

Not saying you can't enjoy the game. Stay cool, though, and don't let alluring multipliers fog your vision. New Pragmatic games? They're eye-catching, sure. But they're games, built to snatch our cash and lure us back. Next time you're riding high on a winning wave, pause and assess your funds. Better safe than wiped out in a heartbeat.

Well I think we should be careful and if we win it big we should withdraw but if the game is just teasing us with small wins to keep us playing as long as we are playing in a rakeback/cashback enabled casino the longer we play the better the rakeback/cashback we get in the end so longer sessions even if we lose some money they have side benefits like this one and that is why I love slots,I am getting something back even if I lose all my balance.

The rakeback/cashback can then be used whenever we want it,I usually go for sport betting as it is normally a lower value although it can be a huge one depending on how much money we have wagered.

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Again, pragmatists are not on my side, is it because recently I've had such bad luck that I've been unlucky or whatever but unfortunately there's always a loss.
This time I tried a slot game that had just been launched and usually a new game gives a pretty good RTP but this only gave me a loss where I played with a remaining balance of around IDR.200,000 but it was all used up.
I don't know what kind of slots to play but I'm getting bored with some of these games.

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