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Quote from: doomloop on April 28, 2023, 01:46:41 PM

~ Bonuses are basically triggers for gamblers to deposit more and play since when you gamble with the bonus, you mostly lose it all and then you feel like playing more, and then you go ahead and deposit money to gamble more. It's very rare that people win withdrawable amounts from given bonuses.

Well, it should be like this, don't you think? Bonuses are there to make people "taste" the game, and then, if they like it, they must deposit to play more. Although, it's not exactly like that. Firstly, you can play in demo mode for free as much as you want. Secondly, there are exceptions. I myself won a withdrawable amount couple of times on various sites, starting with just bonus money.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 05:23:23 AM

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

It is a good choice for you because you can play for one month without making a deposit or using money from your own pocket.
But if a gambler doesn't have sufficient requirements then it can't be like you where you can get weekly and monthly bonuses to be used as betting capital.
I often get bonuses but only for smaller amounts so I still have to spend personal money to add extra when playing so I can play according to my wishes and can stay in slot games to be able to issue a bigger multiplier.
By the way, what is your biggest win this month by using your bonus proceeds to play slots?

Even some of the very high rollers don't get enough bonus to play for the whole week or month when they wager so much money because casinos only give you a little bonus for being a loyal and active gambler on their platform, of course, they can't give you a lot of money so that you use only that money for your gambling activities and don't make deposits at all, otherwise, how will they get any benefit out of that?

Bonuses are basically triggers for gamblers to deposit more and play since when you gamble with the bonus, you mostly lose it all and then you feel like playing more, and then you go ahead and deposit money to gamble more. It's very rare that people win withdrawable amounts from given bonuses.

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Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 01:13:30 PM

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A few last words from your post.

Hurt my little heart ~XD, I think even only 3700x, should be happy with that as we know hard to get up to 1000x multiplier especially with the slot like Pragmatic & PlayNGo. I still take this as max win ~XD because the multiplier.

Would be the journey change ? maybe to starlight since is hitting on zeus.

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slightly dissatisfied with the results provided by Olympus. :'(even though it's a little more, it can maxwin but only get multiples of around 3700x, almost max win but fails.

by the time the 250x came out i was sure it would be maxwin but luckily luck said otherwise. maybe my experience is not like @roycilik but what I get is very pleasing to my eyes when red lightning always strikes.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 25, 2023, 05:40:10 AM

Quote from: nullama on April 24, 2023, 10:29:36 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 24, 2023, 06:49:37 AM

~snip~
It will be hard for gamblers out of luck trying to get close to @roycilik because he is luckier than us. But maybe one day, we can get lucky like @roycilik and win a lot of money. But of course, we also have to pay attention to how many bets we can use to avoid running out of money betting. It's okay to be motivated by other people's results, but the problem is that we often forget who we are, which will cause us to keep using more money to gamble.

There's nothing special about a person, it's just probabilities.

What they can do after winning big is to stop gambling, that's the only way to make sure you don't lose it all back to the casino.

And of course the casino want you to keep gambling as much as they can.

We can suggest that but unfortunately, only a few listen to his advice and return to gambling to try to get another win. While they don't fast themselves with the wins they've won, they keep chasing victory after victory. And only a few can get victory while others experience big losses.

We can only prevent ourselves from experiencing bigger losses by stopping playing gambling, whatever the results we get. We can also come back to the casino another day and who knows, we can get a win.

It is very simple, you can't win against casino on any game in the long run. You should write off betting costs as entertainment. You pay money when you go to movies or in theater, same way you pay money when you go to casino. Everybody thinks they are playing to win money but it is much healthier if you consider all gambling as entertainment expanse. Then you know your limits and avoid uglier consequences of gambling addiction.

Great OP by the way. I have worst luck when it comes to slots. I understand all that RTP and provably fair but I am so much lower than "written values" that it almost breaks the math. I once won 500 free spins on FortuneJack, every spin was 20 Cents and I walked away with something like 5 dollars, go figure

I couldn't choose the slot and played some with low RTP but still those numbers are unbelievable.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 05:23:23 AM

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

It is a good choice for you because you can play for one month without making a deposit or using money from your own pocket.
But if a gambler doesn't have sufficient requirements then it can't be like you where you can get weekly and monthly bonuses to be used as betting capital.
I often get bonuses but only for smaller amounts so I still have to spend personal money to add extra when playing so I can play according to my wishes and can stay in slot games to be able to issue a bigger multiplier.
By the way, what is your biggest win this month by using your bonus proceeds to play slots?

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Quote from: masulum on April 25, 2023, 06:13:16 AM

Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 05:23:23 AM

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and it is somewhat true that people with higher balances can win more often as a higher balance can make your session go longer.

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

And don't think it will be like that, maybe we have similar experience about max win, I'm hitting max-win several times not because I'm playing more often or even with higher money, playing Starlight with only IDR200K deposit, playing Fruit party with only IDR700K deposit, while when I'm making deposit IDR 2m, I'm burning my money within 2 hours. So, I think its not because we made a lot of deposit or playing longer.

Well said, max win is a rare case but it may come at anytime regardless how much money we use to start playing. I remember when I was in duelbits, hitting max win on Gates of Olympus 4-5x in less than a week (like once a day) and at that I time I did not deposit much. Luck is the key, without luck we will never hit max win even if we spend so much money and play as much as possible. Playing longer give more chances to hit it indeed but it give more chances to lose more money as well at the same time.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 23, 2023, 04:53:35 AM

Quote from: Bitinity on April 23, 2023, 04:45:49 AM

It is fine to be motivated by other's result as long as you stay on your own gambling style and stay on your own limit. Just dont try to beat the other's result which may make us out of control. One more important thing, roycilik is few level above than most of us here.

Well done to him.I personally had bonus going on and saw someone at the chat in the casino where I play that said "if you feel poor change your balance to IDR" and I changed it,I kept buying the bonus in Gates of Olympus and won the x500 multiplier but got very little amount of money and after that I kept playing all day there as with IDR you could buy the bonus with just 1.xx dollars instead of 20 dollars that is the normal rate so I enjoyed all day playing there and never got the x5000 max win which I hoped to get.

Now I will wait for the next bonus as I know now where to try and spend all of it while having fun and waiting for a max win Grin

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I think that only works if you are playing for fun. It helps you bet at a whole value instead of 0.00xxx if we are using bigger coins but it does not work really well if you are playing for profit because you will still bet big, making the balance deplete fast. Maybe you are not familiar with this currency because you think you are betting huge amount already but it turns out that what you are betting is still a tiny amount because the rate of this currency is small compared to others.

The only good thing about it is like you said, we can be able to try the bonus buy with a much cheaper cost. It immediately gives us an access to the bonus round of the game. Perfect if we are new to it and are curious if what it looks like. Good luck on hunting your dream multiplier but you can always deposit your own money to have more chances of getting it.

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hmph..

Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 05:23:23 AM

-snip-
and it is somewhat true that people with higher balances can win more often as a higher balance can make your session go longer.

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

And don't think it will be like that, maybe we have similar experience about max win, I'm hitting max-win several times not because I'm playing more often or even with higher money, playing Starlight with only IDR200K deposit, playing Fruit party with only IDR700K deposit, while when I'm making deposit IDR 2m, I'm burning my money within 2 hours. So, I think its not because we made a lot of deposit or playing longer.

Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 05:23:23 AM

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

That was good if you are playing a slots without using your own money, I'm not even get any bonus. I my self not playing slots for several months already. Grin

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Quote from: nullama on April 24, 2023, 10:29:36 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 24, 2023, 06:49:37 AM

~snip~
It will be hard for gamblers out of luck trying to get close to @roycilik because he is luckier than us. But maybe one day, we can get lucky like @roycilik and win a lot of money. But of course, we also have to pay attention to how many bets we can use to avoid running out of money betting. It's okay to be motivated by other people's results, but the problem is that we often forget who we are, which will cause us to keep using more money to gamble.

There's nothing special about a person, it's just probabilities.

What they can do after winning big is to stop gambling, that's the only way to make sure you don't lose it all back to the casino.

And of course the casino want you to keep gambling as much as they can.

We can suggest that but unfortunately, only a few listen to his advice and return to gambling to try to get another win. While they don't fast themselves with the wins they've won, they keep chasing victory after victory. And only a few can get victory while others experience big losses.

We can only prevent ourselves from experiencing bigger losses by stopping playing gambling, whatever the results we get. We can also come back to the casino another day and who knows, we can get a win.

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Quote from: masulum on April 25, 2023, 05:08:49 AM

Quote from: nullama on April 24, 2023, 10:29:36 PM

There's nothing special about a person, it's just probabilities.

What they can do after winning big is to stop gambling, that's the only way to make sure you don't lose it all back to the casino.

And of course the casino want you to keep gambling as much as they can.

Yup exactly, there's nothing special about his account or himself, but he might be luckier than those of us who play, so we see him getting big wins more often than others. However, there are always negative moments, although we are motivated to be able to win big like he got, we also have to remember that there is value lost when he loses a game that he never shares here, we never know if he lost $1000, or maybe $5000 or more, never know. In the end just remember what he said "my game not your game", you can play the same game, but things will be different.

From that "my game not your game" there are a lot of meanings but the one I took as more common is that "I have much more money than you so I can play long enough to win big but you can't copy me" and it is somewhat true that people with higher balances can win more often as a higher balance can make your session go longer.

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

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hmph..

Quote from: nullama on April 24, 2023, 10:29:36 PM

There's nothing special about a person, it's just probabilities.

What they can do after winning big is to stop gambling, that's the only way to make sure you don't lose it all back to the casino.

And of course the casino want you to keep gambling as much as they can.

Yup exactly, there's nothing special about his account or himself, but he might be luckier than those of us who play, so we see him getting big wins more often than others. However, there are always negative moments, although we are motivated to be able to win big like he got, we also have to remember that there is value lost when he loses a game that he never shares here, we never know if he lost $1000, or maybe $5000 or more, never know. In the end just remember what he said "my game not your game", you can play the same game, but things will be different.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 24, 2023, 06:49:37 AM

~snip~
It will be hard for gamblers out of luck trying to get close to @roycilik because he is luckier than us. But maybe one day, we can get lucky like @roycilik and win a lot of money. But of course, we also have to pay attention to how many bets we can use to avoid running out of money betting. It's okay to be motivated by other people's results, but the problem is that we often forget who we are, which will cause us to keep using more money to gamble.

There's nothing special about a person, it's just probabilities.

What they can do after winning big is to stop gambling, that's the only way to make sure you don't lose it all back to the casino.

And of course the casino want you to keep gambling as much as they can.

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Quote from: Bitinity on April 23, 2023, 04:45:49 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 22, 2023, 11:23:36 PM

Quote from: zuzie on April 21, 2023, 03:40:29 AM

Quote from: roycilik on April 19, 2023, 12:02:28 PM

Meanwhile

Today, I have made a new record (16545.9x before)

Fire Hopper 21969.9x Shocked

Base bet amount $0.1
Win $2169

Good Luck (:

WTF I like things like this and can motivate me after the bad days in my game, which casino do you play? I mean in your first post with 16545.9x multiplier
for this one I know it's on stake.com I am familiar with its appearance. Last, may I know the bankroll you prepare to start this high risk game?
on a few screenshots you posted I see your balance in the account only Rp 600k ($40) but obviously it doesn't show your initial balance.

You should not be motivated by the wins that other people get because that can trigger you to continue playing and even deposit a better balance to get a win like that person.

Someone who gets lucky can start with any bankroll and win big wins because he is a lucky person and @roycilik is one of the many lucky people.

You might find it difficult to catch up with what @roycilik has got unless you have the same luck as him Grin

It is fine to be motivated by other's result as long as you stay on your own gambling style and stay on your own limit. Just dont try to beat the other's result which may make us out of control. One more important thing, roycilik is few level above than most of us here.

It will be hard for gamblers out of luck trying to get close to @roycilik because he is luckier than us. But maybe one day, we can get lucky like @roycilik and win a lot of money. But of course, we also have to pay attention to how many bets we can use to avoid running out of money betting. It's okay to be motivated by other people's results, but the problem is that we often forget who we are, which will cause us to keep using more money to gamble.

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Quote from: Bitinity on April 23, 2023, 04:45:49 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 22, 2023, 11:23:36 PM

Quote from: zuzie on April 21, 2023, 03:40:29 AM

Quote from: roycilik on April 19, 2023, 12:02:28 PM

Meanwhile

Today, I have made a new record (16545.9x before)

Fire Hopper 21969.9x Shocked

Base bet amount $0.1
Win $2169

Good Luck (:

WTF I like things like this and can motivate me after the bad days in my game, which casino do you play? I mean in your first post with 16545.9x multiplier
for this one I know it's on stake.com I am familiar with its appearance. Last, may I know the bankroll you prepare to start this high risk game?
on a few screenshots you posted I see your balance in the account only Rp 600k ($40) but obviously it doesn't show your initial balance.

You should not be motivated by the wins that other people get because that can trigger you to continue playing and even deposit a better balance to get a win like that person.

Someone who gets lucky can start with any bankroll and win big wins because he is a lucky person and @roycilik is one of the many lucky people.

You might find it difficult to catch up with what @roycilik has got unless you have the same luck as him Grin

It is fine to be motivated by other's result as long as you stay on your own gambling style and stay on your own limit. Just dont try to beat the other's result which may make us out of control. One more important thing, roycilik is few level above than most of us here.

Well done to him.I personally had bonus going on and saw someone at the chat in the casino where I play that said "if you feel poor change your balance to IDR" and I changed it,I kept buying the bonus in Gates of Olympus and won the x500 multiplier but got very little amount of money and after that I kept playing all day there as with IDR you could buy the bonus with just 1.xx dollars instead of 20 dollars that is the normal rate so I enjoyed all day playing there and never got the x5000 max win which I hoped to get.

Now I will wait for the next bonus as I know now where to try and spend all of it while having fun and waiting for a max win Grin

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 22, 2023, 11:23:36 PM

Quote from: zuzie on April 21, 2023, 03:40:29 AM

Quote from: roycilik on April 19, 2023, 12:02:28 PM

Meanwhile

Today, I have made a new record (16545.9x before)

Fire Hopper 21969.9x Shocked

Base bet amount $0.1
Win $2169

Good Luck (:

WTF I like things like this and can motivate me after the bad days in my game, which casino do you play? I mean in your first post with 16545.9x multiplier
for this one I know it's on stake.com I am familiar with its appearance. Last, may I know the bankroll you prepare to start this high risk game?
on a few screenshots you posted I see your balance in the account only Rp 600k ($40) but obviously it doesn't show your initial balance.

You should not be motivated by the wins that other people get because that can trigger you to continue playing and even deposit a better balance to get a win like that person.

Someone who gets lucky can start with any bankroll and win big wins because he is a lucky person and @roycilik is one of the many lucky people.

You might find it difficult to catch up with what @roycilik has got unless you have the same luck as him Grin

It is fine to be motivated by other's result as long as you stay on your own gambling style and stay on your own limit. Just dont try to beat the other's result which may make us out of control. One more important thing, roycilik is few level above than most of us here.

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Behold, The God Gambler @roycilik is back!

Quote from: nullama on April 23, 2023, 12:26:52 AM

Quote from: panjul07 on April 21, 2023, 06:41:16 AM

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Nope, there is no guarantee that you will get greater chance to make profit if you play longer.
The result in any game of chance is pure about luck, it may come as soon as you start or it may not come even if you play longer.
If you think that you will get greater chance, it will just make you being trapped as you will push yourself to keep playing as long as possible till you have no more funds.

If you play longer it simply means you are getting closer to the probabilities, which means that you will end up losing money as that's how every single game is designed.
So, if you happen to win big, you should stop immediately to maximize winnings.
If you never play you are actually maximizing your expected winnings, neutral, or zero, whereas if you play your expected return is negative in the long term.

The theoretical RTP is based on hundreds of million/billion of bets, so one player who plays longer won't be getting near "the probabilities."
But, there are comeback mechanics that vary based on the game's volatility, so you'll get something back if you play longer or have sufficient balance.

If you win big, the next spin still has the same probability, maybe you will still be lucky in your next spin, or not.. who knows?
The mistake for most players is to catch the falling knife and deposit more to return their losses, while immediately quitting when they are in green.

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Quote from: panjul07 on April 21, 2023, 06:41:16 AM

~snip~
Nope, there is no guarantee that you will get greater chance to make profit if you play longer.
The result in any game of chance is pure about luck, it may come as soon as you start or it may not come even if you play longer.
If you think that you will get greater chance, it will just make you being trapped as you will push yourself to keep playing as long as possible till you have no more funds.

If you play longer it simply means you are getting closer to the probabilities, which means that you will end up losing money as that's how every single game is designed.

So, if you happen to win big, you should stop immediately to maximize winnings.

If you never play you are actually maximizing your expected winnings, neutral, or zero, whereas if you play your expected return is negative in the long term.

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Quote from: zuzie on April 21, 2023, 03:40:29 AM

Quote from: roycilik on April 19, 2023, 12:02:28 PM

Meanwhile

Today, I have made a new record (16545.9x before)

Fire Hopper 21969.9x Shocked

Base bet amount $0.1
Win $2169

Good Luck (:

WTF I like things like this and can motivate me after the bad days in my game, which casino do you play? I mean in your first post with 16545.9x multiplier
for this one I know it's on stake.com I am familiar with its appearance. Last, may I know the bankroll you prepare to start this high risk game?
on a few screenshots you posted I see your balance in the account only Rp 600k ($40) but obviously it doesn't show your initial balance.

You should not be motivated by the wins that other people get because that can trigger you to continue playing and even deposit a better balance to get a win like that person.

Someone who gets lucky can start with any bankroll and win big wins because he is a lucky person and @roycilik is one of the many lucky people.

You might find it difficult to catch up with what @roycilik has got unless you have the same luck as him Grin

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Quote from: swogerino on April 16, 2023, 08:15:44 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on April 16, 2023, 08:04:02 AM

Quote from: len01 on April 11, 2023, 02:35:51 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on April 10, 2023, 07:27:31 AM

Regarding making higher bets, I disagree. Yes, you would win more in the case of hitting a high multiplier, but it would take just a few lost bets to reach the amount you could afford to lose. Too short to be fun.

yep, if I use a bigger bet amount maybe I can't get a big multiplier because my budget is too small maybe it will run out faster not until the free spins

It is not necessarily so. I mean, some gamblers claim that they win in demo mode and with smaller bets, but once they switch to higher bets they stop winning. I disagree with them. Nor do we need to make a certain amount of bets to hit a good multiplier. We can hit it right away from the very first spin. But normally if your budget for the day is $5-$6 it's not advisable to make $2 bets.

I don't know for other providers but even if you have big balance like 300-400 dollars and you play with 1-2 dollars per bet in Play n Go you will see your money draining up the fastest compared to other slot providers.In my opinion as I have been playing them a lot and I mean a lot is that there you rarely win something with a big multiplier in the normal spins and you can only win big most of the times in the bonus round which comes as rarely as possible when you play with big bets.

Pragmatic Play on the other hand makes people a bit more happy because they for example in games like Gate of Olympus and other games with same mechanics can give you a really huge multiplier even in normal spins and that is why for me they are better.

Pragmatic Play is a great slot provider and I like many of their lots, Gates of Olympus, Starlight Princess and Madame Destiny being among them. They are very professionally made and you feel good when spinning them, I agree. But slots by Play'n Go are equally good for me. They too have nice sounds and good animation. Take Wild Blood 2, for instance: I'm not in profit from playing this slot, but I enjoy playing it. Or Rise of Merlin, you can play with as little as $0.01 on it. It's almost like spinning in demo mode, only you can win something when hitting a big multiplier.

But I agree with your main point, if playing with 1-2 dollars per bet, a balance like 300-400 dollars wouldn't enough to have fun, in most cases.

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