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Quote from: nullama on May 07, 2023, 06:40:41 PM

Quote from: Bitinity on May 07, 2023, 02:41:31 AM

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I have to say that it is your lucky week although you have not hit the max win the the games. Around a week ago you hit nice multiplier in Gates of Olyimpus and a week later you hit another nice multiplier in Starlight Princess. Well congrats on your nice results and maybe you need to consider yourself to take a break for a while to enjoy your profit. Recently I saw many new games from Pragmatic such as the Excalibur Unleased and Wild Bison Charge which seems to be having a new different gameplay or at least it is not just old games with different theme. Have you tried them?

Sometimes in some games they make it so that it appears that you are winning, or getting a rare result often, but my guess is that it's really not something that valuable/rare.

These casinos are the masters of creating the idea that you are constantly winning, or getting ahead, while in reality you are just slowly going broke.

The game system might make us think that we are winning but it will be temporary because often time gambler will look at his bankroll and see that he is losing. The illusionary trap of the slots of making us gain a win by giving us a small amount of winnings regularly is often broken by simply looking at our bankroll.

I agree that slots are created that way so it is a nice thing to look at our funds from time to time to have a fund check to see if the time spent on the slots is profitable or not.

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Quote from: Bitinity on May 07, 2023, 02:41:31 AM

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I have to say that it is your lucky week although you have not hit the max win the the games. Around a week ago you hit nice multiplier in Gates of Olyimpus and a week later you hit another nice multiplier in Starlight Princess. Well congrats on your nice results and maybe you need to consider yourself to take a break for a while to enjoy your profit. Recently I saw many new games from Pragmatic such as the Excalibur Unleased and Wild Bison Charge which seems to be having a new different gameplay or at least it is not just old games with different theme. Have you tried them?

Sometimes in some games they make it so that it appears that you are winning, or getting a rare result often, but my guess is that it's really not something that valuable/rare.

These casinos are the masters of creating the idea that you are constantly winning, or getting ahead, while in reality you are just slowly going broke.

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Quote from: len01 on May 05, 2023, 02:32:55 AM

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I have to say that it is your lucky week although you have not hit the max win the the games. Around a week ago you hit nice multiplier in Gates of Olyimpus and a week later you hit another nice multiplier in Starlight Princess. Well congrats on your nice results and maybe you need to consider yourself to take a break for a while to enjoy your profit. Recently I saw many new games from Pragmatic such as the Excalibur Unleased and Wild Bison Charge which seems to be having a new different gameplay or at least it is not just old games with different theme. Have you tried them?

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Quote from: Betwrong on May 06, 2023, 08:13:05 AM

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They will. Not all of them, but might be enough for a casino to go bankrupt. The algorithm for the whole process of a bonus program should be something that allows some gamblers to win big and withdraw, to spread the news, and, on the other hand, something that doesn't make the company to go over their promotional budget. It's good if the company is big enough to allow some unexpected expenses, but for a small company it can be a challenge.

I'm pretty sure that they would have a stop mechanism in place that would stop withdrawals if something goes wrong.

That has happened many times in financial institutions when they stop trading, so in a casino I'm sure they have similar mechanisms.

There's no way a casino will go bankrupt because of a bug like that.

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Quote from: nullama on April 29, 2023, 09:19:13 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on April 29, 2023, 05:24:36 AM

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Well, it should be like this, don't you think? Bonuses are there to make people "taste" the game, and then, if they like it, they must deposit to play more. Although, it's not exactly like that. Firstly, you can play in demo mode for free as much as you want. Secondly, there are exceptions. I myself won a withdrawable amount couple of times on various sites, starting with just bonus money.

Yeah, a bonus is simply to give a bit of a boost to a player.

If it was something were people actually could withdraw the whole amount without playing and putting some money in, then a lot of people would simply take the money out, making it not work for the casino at all.

The thing is that if people can do it, they will do it.

They will. Not all of them, but might be enough for a casino to go bankrupt. The algorithm for the whole process of a bonus program should be something that allows some gamblers to win big and withdraw, to spread the news, and, on the other hand, something that doesn't make the company to go over their promotional budget. It's good if the company is big enough to allow some unexpected expenses, but for a small company it can be a challenge.

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Quote from: tusandii on May 04, 2023, 02:20:31 AM

Hahaha

For today it looks like the Pragmatic Provider of Gates Of Olympus is not doing well where I spent more than $ 50 playing there with higher bets than I usually play and it turns out the result is 0 I don't get any profit that can be generated.
Usually by doing manual spins I can have some free Scatters but today I don't have any.
Is there anyone today who has the same fate as me?

Gates has been nerfed a long time ago. Sweet Bonanza, Gates of Olympus, and Starlight Princess have been dead for long months, it doesn't even bonus nowadays. Sad but true, it is something we can't control on such slots, maybe Pragmatic provider takes RTP from these group of slots then turns on RTP on new released slots.

I don't know why this type of pragmatic provider slot game has bad days where it's very difficult to win.
Previously, Gates Of Olympus and Starlight Princess were the mainstay types of slots for many gamblers, including myself, but lately they can only give losses without the slightest return.
Yes RTP seems to have disappeared and the average slot with good RTP is a newly released slot, I don't know why this happened but it's very disappointing.

Do we have to play slots with high vitality and also play at Play'nGo providers so we can get this type of slot that we can count on, but unfortunately for this type we have to use even more capital.

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Quote from: ryzaadit on April 27, 2023, 01:32:36 PM

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Would be the journey change ? maybe to starlight since is hitting on zeus.

damn, I really hate when it's like this, before buying the spin feature, 250x appeared and was annoyed that I only got a multiple of 1730x. even though I've been thinking about clicking the buy feature button after the reel stops but that's not what I want.

I think if 250x appears during the bonus round maybe 3500x will be reached or even if I'm lucky I can maxwin. just a my dream Cheesy

looks like Starlight Princess doesn't love me now.
but not bad for $641.

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Hahaha

For today it looks like the Pragmatic Provider of Gates Of Olympus is not doing well where I spent more than $ 50 playing there with higher bets than I usually play and it turns out the result is 0 I don't get any profit that can be generated.
Usually by doing manual spins I can have some free Scatters but today I don't have any.
Is there anyone today who has the same fate as me?

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Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 12:13:30 PM

slightly dissatisfied with the results provided by Olympus. :'(even though it's a little more, it can maxwin but only get multiples of around 3700x, almost max win but fails.

by the time the 250x came out i was sure it would be maxwin but luckily luck said otherwise. maybe my experience is not like @roycilik but what I get is very pleasing to my eyes when red lightning always strikes.

https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/ZLc6wsCeNg

I also thought that you got the max win script while watching the replay. but zeus denied you of hitting it by not giving a tumble with multiplier on the last 5 spins. But still that was a good win, I would rather get that kind of win anytime.

Quote from: Bitinity on April 30, 2023, 01:36:27 AM

Hitting the 250x 500x in Grandpa Zeus is already a big luck for any players because it is rarely coming out. Although you have not hit a max win but you got a big luck already. I know how it feels when we failed to hit maxwin while we have some huge wild multipliers because I experienced myself few times. Anyway, anyone tried the enhanced rtp mode of Fruit Party namely Slushie Party? I tried around 10x buy bonus with my last weekly bonus but it no single buy give me a profit, all were lost. I feel that the original Fruit Party is still better than the new Slushie Party.

True, I bet some streamers would be jealous on this replay. I often watch streamers praying for max win or the 100 to 500 multiplier drops but failed to get it. Often times these streamers do multiple buys and seldom to see them get 10x multiplier. That tumbles with 250x and 500x was very satisfying to watch. I hope I got that luck too in the near future. Cheesy

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Quote from: Bitinity on April 30, 2023, 01:36:27 AM

Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 12:13:30 PM

slightly dissatisfied with the results provided by Olympus. :'(even though it's a little more, it can maxwin but only get multiples of around 3700x, almost max win but fails.

by the time the 250x came out i was sure it would be maxwin but luckily luck said otherwise. maybe my experience is not like @roycilik but what I get is very pleasing to my eyes when red lightning always strikes.

https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/ZLc6wsCeNg

Hitting the 250x 500x in Grandpa Zeus is already a big luck for any players because it is rarely coming out. Although you have not hit a max win but you got a big luck already. I know how it feels when we failed to hit maxwin while we have some huge wild multipliers because I experienced myself few times. Anyway, anyone tried the enhanced rtp mode of Fruit Party namely Slushie Party? I tried around 10x buy bonus with my last weekly bonus but it no single buy give me a profit, all were lost. I feel that the original Fruit Party is still better than the new Slushie Party.

Holy moly that is a well over x1200 multiplier and this is one of the multipliers I have always dreamed about.I have tried buying the bonus round in this very game for so many times and the maximum I got has been x100 and in normal spins,my total overall has been x44 in the bonus game.Having watched this replay has given me a lot of desire to try again this game and hoping for the best,I know that one time I will get it.The only thing I did not like about the session is that the person playing didn't experience a max win despite the multiplier being well over x1200 and that is very strange.

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Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 12:13:30 PM

slightly dissatisfied with the results provided by Olympus. :'(even though it's a little more, it can maxwin but only get multiples of around 3700x, almost max win but fails.

by the time the 250x came out i was sure it would be maxwin but luckily luck said otherwise. maybe my experience is not like @roycilik but what I get is very pleasing to my eyes when red lightning always strikes.

https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/ZLc6wsCeNg

Hitting the 250x 500x in Grandpa Zeus is already a big luck for any players because it is rarely coming out. Although you have not hit a max win but you got a big luck already. I know how it feels when we failed to hit maxwin while we have some huge wild multipliers because I experienced myself few times. Anyway, anyone tried the enhanced rtp mode of Fruit Party namely Slushie Party? I tried around 10x buy bonus with my last weekly bonus but it no single buy give me a profit, all were lost. I feel that the original Fruit Party is still better than the new Slushie Party.

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Quote from: doomloop on April 28, 2023, 12:46:41 PM

Quote from: tusandii on April 27, 2023, 04:14:34 AM

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Even some of the very high rollers don't get enough bonus to play for the whole week or month when they wager so much money because casinos only give you a little bonus for being a loyal and active gambler on their platform, of course, they can't give you a lot of money so that you use only that money for your gambling activities and don't make deposits at all, otherwise, how will they get any benefit out of that?

Bonuses are basically triggers for gamblers to deposit more and play since when you gamble with the bonus, you mostly lose it all and then you feel like playing more, and then you go ahead and deposit money to gamble more. It's very rare that people win withdrawable amounts from given bonuses.

It's true what you say and the casino will only give a small return of the amount of bets that have been made by each customer through a weekly or monthly bonus. In this bonus the amount is small depending on how much is spent to bet because the more you lose to bet, the more there are also many bonuses that can be obtained, but this is not comparable, it's just that the benefits for customers can get back a little of the lost balance while playing.
Still, the biggest advantage still belongs to the casino.

As was the case with me a few days ago I got a weekly bonus and I used it to play Bonanza slots but it ran out with nothing left so I had to use the money I had deposited to be able to get back some of the money I lost. Grin

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Quote from: Betwrong on April 29, 2023, 05:24:36 AM

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Well, it should be like this, don't you think? Bonuses are there to make people "taste" the game, and then, if they like it, they must deposit to play more. Although, it's not exactly like that. Firstly, you can play in demo mode for free as much as you want. Secondly, there are exceptions. I myself won a withdrawable amount couple of times on various sites, starting with just bonus money.

Yeah, a bonus is simply to give a bit of a boost to a player.

If it was something were people actually could withdraw the whole amount without playing and putting some money in, then a lot of people would simply take the money out, making it not work for the casino at all.

The thing is that if people can do it, they will do it.

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Quote from: doomloop on April 28, 2023, 12:46:41 PM

~ Bonuses are basically triggers for gamblers to deposit more and play since when you gamble with the bonus, you mostly lose it all and then you feel like playing more, and then you go ahead and deposit money to gamble more. It's very rare that people win withdrawable amounts from given bonuses.

Well, it should be like this, don't you think? Bonuses are there to make people "taste" the game, and then, if they like it, they must deposit to play more. Although, it's not exactly like that. Firstly, you can play in demo mode for free as much as you want. Secondly, there are exceptions. I myself won a withdrawable amount couple of times on various sites, starting with just bonus money.

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Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

It is a good choice for you because you can play for one month without making a deposit or using money from your own pocket.
But if a gambler doesn't have sufficient requirements then it can't be like you where you can get weekly and monthly bonuses to be used as betting capital.
I often get bonuses but only for smaller amounts so I still have to spend personal money to add extra when playing so I can play according to my wishes and can stay in slot games to be able to issue a bigger multiplier.
By the way, what is your biggest win this month by using your bonus proceeds to play slots?

Even some of the very high rollers don't get enough bonus to play for the whole week or month when they wager so much money because casinos only give you a little bonus for being a loyal and active gambler on their platform, of course, they can't give you a lot of money so that you use only that money for your gambling activities and don't make deposits at all, otherwise, how will they get any benefit out of that?

Bonuses are basically triggers for gamblers to deposit more and play since when you gamble with the bonus, you mostly lose it all and then you feel like playing more, and then you go ahead and deposit money to gamble more. It's very rare that people win withdrawable amounts from given bonuses.

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Quote from: len01 on April 27, 2023, 12:13:30 PM

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A few last words from your post.

Hurt my little heart ~XD, I think even only 3700x, should be happy with that as we know hard to get up to 1000x multiplier especially with the slot like Pragmatic & PlayNGo. I still take this as max win ~XD because the multiplier.

Would be the journey change ? maybe to starlight since is hitting on zeus.

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slightly dissatisfied with the results provided by Olympus. :'(even though it's a little more, it can maxwin but only get multiples of around 3700x, almost max win but fails.

by the time the 250x came out i was sure it would be maxwin but luckily luck said otherwise. maybe my experience is not like @roycilik but what I get is very pleasing to my eyes when red lightning always strikes.

https://replay.pragmaticplay.net/ZLc6wsCeNg

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Quote from: nullama on April 24, 2023, 09:29:36 PM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on April 24, 2023, 05:49:37 AM

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It will be hard for gamblers out of luck trying to get close to @roycilik because he is luckier than us. But maybe one day, we can get lucky like @roycilik and win a lot of money. But of course, we also have to pay attention to how many bets we can use to avoid running out of money betting. It's okay to be motivated by other people's results, but the problem is that we often forget who we are, which will cause us to keep using more money to gamble.

There's nothing special about a person, it's just probabilities.

What they can do after winning big is to stop gambling, that's the only way to make sure you don't lose it all back to the casino.

And of course the casino want you to keep gambling as much as they can.

We can suggest that but unfortunately, only a few listen to his advice and return to gambling to try to get another win. While they don't fast themselves with the wins they've won, they keep chasing victory after victory. And only a few can get victory while others experience big losses.

We can only prevent ourselves from experiencing bigger losses by stopping playing gambling, whatever the results we get. We can also come back to the casino another day and who knows, we can get a win.

It is very simple, you can't win against casino on any game in the long run. You should write off betting costs as entertainment. You pay money when you go to movies or in theater, same way you pay money when you go to casino. Everybody thinks they are playing to win money but it is much healthier if you consider all gambling as entertainment expanse. Then you know your limits and avoid uglier consequences of gambling addiction.

Great OP by the way. I have worst luck when it comes to slots. I understand all that RTP and provably fair but I am so much lower than "written values" that it almost breaks the math. I once won 500 free spins on FortuneJack, every spin was 20 Cents and I walked away with something like 5 dollars, go figure

I couldn't choose the slot and played some with low RTP but still those numbers are unbelievable.

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Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 04:23:23 AM

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

It is a good choice for you because you can play for one month without making a deposit or using money from your own pocket.
But if a gambler doesn't have sufficient requirements then it can't be like you where you can get weekly and monthly bonuses to be used as betting capital.
I often get bonuses but only for smaller amounts so I still have to spend personal money to add extra when playing so I can play according to my wishes and can stay in slot games to be able to issue a bigger multiplier.
By the way, what is your biggest win this month by using your bonus proceeds to play slots?

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Quote from: masulum on April 25, 2023, 05:13:16 AM

Quote from: swogerino on April 25, 2023, 04:23:23 AM

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and it is somewhat true that people with higher balances can win more often as a higher balance can make your session go longer.

Today I got another 19 dollar bonus and that is almost 400.000 IDR which I am going to spend on Gate of Olympus searching for that max win,it is exactly 1 month today that I don't spend a single cent from my own pocket to play slots anymore.

And don't think it will be like that, maybe we have similar experience about max win, I'm hitting max-win several times not because I'm playing more often or even with higher money, playing Starlight with only IDR200K deposit, playing Fruit party with only IDR700K deposit, while when I'm making deposit IDR 2m, I'm burning my money within 2 hours. So, I think its not because we made a lot of deposit or playing longer.

Well said, max win is a rare case but it may come at anytime regardless how much money we use to start playing. I remember when I was in duelbits, hitting max win on Gates of Olympus 4-5x in less than a week (like once a day) and at that I time I did not deposit much. Luck is the key, without luck we will never hit max win even if we spend so much money and play as much as possible. Playing longer give more chances to hit it indeed but it give more chances to lose more money as well at the same time.

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