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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 23, 2020, 02:06:19 PM

I think that slots are way better than dice because of their payout structure. Lets say you are hunting 99x in dice, in this hunt you will not get paid if you hit 98x. But in slots things are different and you will get paid for every hit though you are aiming for jackpot.
I know that most of the slots pay like 80-92% of what goes into slots but still if you compare it with dice (specially hit and run method) it is more profitable in long run (although in long run you will eventually loose in both games because of house edge)
I want you to ponder upon this and please tell me how much I am right in this line of reasoning.

It depends on the odds. If you play dice with high odds, though it is hard to win (well same goes with slots with higher payout), you can also win a huge amount of money. Like for example, if you bet in dice with 3666x multiplier, isn't that way bigger than slots winning?

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 23, 2020, 02:06:19 PM

I think that slots are way better than dice because of their payout structure. Lets say you are hunting 99x in dice, in this hunt you will not get paid if you hit 98x. But in slots things are different and you will get paid for every hit though you are aiming for jackpot.
I know that most of the slots pay like 80-92% of what goes into slots but still if you compare it with dice (specially hit and run method) it is more profitable in long run (although in long run you will eventually loose in both games because of house edge)
I want you to ponder upon this and please tell me how much I am right in this line of reasoning.

I don't think this is a correct method to compare the profitability of both the games. Both Slots and Dice are completely random and purely luck-based games. In luck-based games house edge is the most important factor to be compared, if you compare them, you'll find that Dice is better than Slots. Slot is the easiest way to lose your money if you are not lucky.

Quote from: bittraffic on May 23, 2020, 04:09:17 PM

Blackjack still no different since you still rely to your luck. You hit when you think you'll lose because the house might just hit the right card to equate more than you have if you stand. If luck is on your side you win.

But what OP says is that you still get rewards even if you didn't hit the jackpot with slot. I'm not a fan of playing Slots though. It feels not random to me. Grin

Blackjack is definitely not a luck-based game, if you are a bit skilled you can clearly reduce your loses even when you are unlucky. Most card games like Blackjack, Poker etc require a certain level of skill to make profits. But in Dice and Slots, there is no skill involved. So Card games and sports bets are always better than luck based games

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Both games are good depending on what makes you happier when you are playing it.

I tried Slots in online, and it gives me more fun since I can see allot of colors and it seems that there's a higher chance for me to win because of many combinations available.

But if we are seeking for a game that can give as fast profit, dice is much simpler and the chances of winning could be 50/50.

The similarities that I can see in both is that you don't need to have too much experience to understand the game, thus I can offer it to newbies in gambling before they engage blackjack, poker, and other complicated card games.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 23, 2020, 10:29:51 PM

Depends on individual preferences, but if you are going to look at the math behind and the chance then it's going to be complicated and I don't think that gamblers are willing to look at it. In the long run you can get busted easily regardless of how much capital you have and how much x% you are targeting.

So you are neither right or wrong, others might have some strategy when they play dice but sooner or later house edge will catch up.

Both are just a based on luck and doesn't need any logical reasoning or what. The winning chance of slot to dice are the same and I think the only thing that matters here are what on those two are giving you more entertainment and what on those two games did you really enjoy. Sometimes we are feeling that the other game is better if we got more lucky on that game. But as long as they are games that are based on luck and doesn't really need any skill then, they are just all the same.

If you enjoy slots rather than dice then, Slots are better than dice (for you). Wink

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When a gambler is often playing slots, he would say slots are better than the other gambling games. But if a gambler plays random gambling games, he would not choose only one gambling games because he likes to change the gambling games to play. So every player or gambler will have their own favourite gambling games because once they found the games that can make them comfortable, they will stay at that games, and they will not change to another gambling game. They can switch to another gambling game when they feel bored sometimes, but they will back to their favourite games, and play it again.

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we have our own preferences in each gambling game we play and this will depend upon gamblers for what they find to be fit in their desire chances.
Not because you thing Slots is good meaning i will support you because for me Dice is the best and easy game to play in casinos.

Slots has once in a billion chances of winning while in dice i believe that the winning is much closer compared to slot.

Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 23, 2020, 10:29:51 PM

So you are neither right or wrong, others might have some strategy when they play dice but sooner or later house edge will catch up.

This is indeed and its about the strategy we are lying here because if straight playing both needs pure luck but if we have our knowledge added when we play then it depends on our desire ways of betting.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 23, 2020, 02:06:19 PM

I think that slots are way better than dice because of their payout structure. Lets say you are hunting 99x in dice, in this hunt you will not get paid if you hit 98x. But in slots things are different and you will get paid for every hit though you are aiming for jackpot.
I know that most of the slots pay like 80-92% of what goes into slots but still if you compare it with dice (specially hit and run method) it is more profitable in long run (although in long run you will eventually loose in both games because of house edge)
I want you to ponder upon this and please tell me how much I am right in this line of reasoning.

I play both slot and dice at different times. I feel both of them are good and it depends upon my mood which one to play. Dice games are more simpler and easy to play if you are a beginner. I remember when i first started gambling, i only used to play dice.

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Quote from: Yaunfitda on May 23, 2020, 10:29:51 PM

Depends on individual preferences, but if you are going to look at the math behind and the chance then it's going to be complicated and I don't think that gamblers are willing to look at it. In the long run you can get busted easily regardless of how much capital you have and how much x% you are targeting.

So you are neither right or wrong, others might have some strategy when they play dice but sooner or later house edge will catch up.

I consider them both in the same level of chance of winning, as they are really based on pure luck. So I don't think either one of them is better than the other. Though there are players do some certain strategies just to get ahead like martingale in dice, but still you can't rely on that strategy because it will only work for certain period and you can't depend on it in any way.

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Depends on individual preferences, but if you are going to look at the math behind and the chance then it's going to be complicated and I don't think that gamblers are willing to look at it. In the long run you can get busted easily regardless of how much capital you have and how much x% you are targeting.

So you are neither right or wrong, others might have some strategy when they play dice but sooner or later house edge will catch up.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 23, 2020, 02:06:19 PM

I think that slots are way better than dice because of their payout structure. Lets say you are hunting 99x in dice, in this hunt you will not get paid if you hit 98x. But in slots things are different and you will get paid for every hit though you are aiming for jackpot.
I know that most of the slots pay like 80-92% of what goes into slots but still if you compare it with dice (specially hit and run method) it is more profitable in long run (although in long run you will eventually loose in both games because of house edge)
I want you to ponder upon this and please tell me how much I am right in this line of reasoning.

Both are excited to play I am more on dice than slot the winning structure is high on the slot games but the odds to win a jackpot is quite high, although both are games of luck, you can still employ a strategy on dice games, the most popular is the martingale, although not very effective but always worth trying, but if you just want to have fun, slots are more exciting no strategy involve just pure luck.

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I don't think there's a need to even compare the two. I mean, gambling is a form of entertainment, its for fun, I see no need to compare it whether it be based on the amount of winnings you can get or the amount of entertainment you can get from both. Even more so with seeing it as a source of income. It's just like how games are if you play games as an item farmer (players who grind items and sell them for irl currency), it turns really boring. Just like in gambling where if you see it as a source of income, the fun factor disappears and you just get stressed all day cause of losing.

Quote from: bittraffic on May 23, 2020, 04:44:28 PM

I'm not sure if you can call a chance to take a hit an optimal strategy though.

Slot is actually the most famous in traditional casinos, its what brings more money to the casino than any games. There was a survey I've read somewhere which interviews casino owners and results indicate that slots are widely being played mostly by casinos goers.

Blackjack's chances are more optimal since there's a much higher chance of winning constantly compared to slots. You can also see what's going on with the game yourself, making it like you're seeing the entire code, unlike with slots. Though I do agree with slots being a staple in traditional casinos, even with online casinos.

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I understand why you get that feeling but your reasoning is flawed.
It's true that while chasing the JackPot on slots you will have some winning spins (usually small rewards) unlike when playing dice where whether you win or you lose. However, you didn't take into consideration two important variable:
- HE which is far bigger for slots
- odds to hit the JackPot.
Both combined, will make your profit/loss almost the same on both games (in the long run).

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Ah, here we go again - the old "I prefer this game as it gives me more chances to win". I came to the conclusion that any game you play and any strategy you choose, gambling is gambling and changing payouts (or going for longer sessions) only change the length of the timeline before you bust.

It all really comes down to personal preferences. You could bet 10BTC and hope for a $1.2k easy win with a 98% chance of winning and bust instead within the first try. That's an insta-bust. On the other hand, you could bet a satoshi with some "better strat" and bust within 24h of non-stop autobets. The only difference is the session length.

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In my opinion both are best. It primarily depends on the comfort level of the player. For me dice is better than slots as it is way more simple and you do not need to break your head to understand the game. On the other hand those who understand slots prefer playing it as it generates more interest. I prefer both depending on my mood.

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I dont have a preferred game to play it just depends to my liking or whenever im feeling lucky in a particular game then i play it, im really a type of player who plays only one game. I like trying new things because my aim is to just have fun. If i win the jackpoint at somepoint then i consider it as a bonus for me.

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It depends upon the taste of the gambler. Maybe, for OP slots are way good to play than Dice. But for others, they play better in dice. It's up to you when your luck will go and how you can play with strategy in a certain game. That's why there are many online games catered by different gambling sites. So that, we can choose what we want and where we can play more.

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I think this depends on the gambler itself. Online there are a lot of dice games, it might be the most popular game in online casinos for a long time now. In terms of physical casinos, slots are so popular as lines and lines of slots machines are present in a lot of casinos. So in the end, even though the other have a higher chance of winning, they will still choose where they are used to and where they are comfortable to.

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Even if you're right OP there's more dice casinos to choose from and not many people actually play slots online.

The beauty of slots is the lights and sounds that draw people in and the interaction with the machine that keeps them playing. It's extremely popular in Asia where they even have more skilled version of slots called pachinko.

You can say all you want about slots being better but Bitcoin dice games are still the most popular.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on May 23, 2020, 02:06:19 PM

I think that slots are way better than dice because of their payout structure. Lets say you are hunting 99x in dice, in this hunt you will not get paid if you hit 98x. But in slots things are different and you will get paid for every hit though you are aiming for jackpot.
I know that most of the slots pay like 80-92% of what goes into slots but still if you compare it with dice (specially hit and run method) it is more profitable in long run (although in long run you will eventually loose in both games because of house edge)
I want you to ponder upon this and please tell me how much I am right in this line of reasoning.

I wouldn't technically slots are better than dice games, both are still luck base games. In slots, the bigger you bet, the bigger profit you can get for every hit. And then there is a bonus in a slot, which obviously is not present in a dice game and you have chance to get x2-x99 payout, that is, if you get lucky.

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Quote from: chaser15 on May 23, 2020, 04:52:27 PM

OP like those x2,x3,x4,x5 winnings per spin on slots plus the chance of jackpot that's why he thinks that dice isn't that better.

This is the first time I encounter that as a reason why someone will say slots are better than dice.

Gamblers have different tastes, preferences, factors on choosing what gambling game they want. OP, both dice and slots do have the same chance in terms of winnings whether for short-term or long-term as you are dealing with the house-edge, so whatever you choose to play, just try to get out if you are already winning on that particular day.

Also my first time too on hearing out this kind of reasoning but actually this will matter on self preference because we do have different insights towards gambling
games that we are involved into.
When it comes to potential wins or multipliers then I would say that Dice is much more better yet we can set out on what odds we do like from 1.1x- to maximum depending on the max payout on where a gambling site do set on.
The only thing that differs slots from dice is to those fancy pictures and sounds that cant be found on a dice game but other than that I do still prefer
on playing dice.

Especially if you see the house edge of slot where it has 5% - 10% where 1% is the highest the will find out how the crap is the slot is, maybe he just get amaze on the glowing pictures,funny sounds and other appealing things that's why he choose slots but in terms of multipliers I will go with the dice.

But as you said we have different preferences so we have different opinion regarding on this comparison so maybe slots are more enjoyable for him and the chance to win a bigger jackpot is there that's why he selects it.

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