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Quote from: Sterbens on June 11, 2022, 01:34:00 PM

Quote from: Fatunad on June 10, 2022, 12:46:53 PM

As a business then you would really be thinking on different ways or methods on how they would be hooking up players even on means of those good or catchy thumbnails which
i could say that it is really that effective plus having those big multiplier kind of advertisement which you could possibly hit on playing slots then thats do really adding up the
interest and curiosity thats why we do really ending up on trying it on our own and do lose up in the end if you arent lucky enough.We know the odds and chances of winning slots
where it is really low and when your emotion burst up then this is where addiction starts to come out.

Even now, I still see people closest to me who started gambling complain for the umpteenth time. Spend their money just being lulled by thumbnails and also messages coming in from casino promoters. Marketing techniques that are very addictive, they are difficult to avoid when slot gambling gives curiosity as well as addiction. Self-control especially for beginners who fall into slot games has really become a rife phenomenon in the surrounding environment.

Expect about those ads and other marketing aspects which you might able to encounter.On having that accessibility that we do have today then its likely you would really be getting exposed
into these things which it isnt really that surprising that you would really be making yourself to get involved if you arent really that good enough on your emotion and self discipline on dealing with something.
Addiction in gambling wont matter on what kind of games you are dealing with whether on dice/slots/roulletes or sports betting because addiction do share up with the same form
and those anticipations and hopes are just the same.

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Quote from: Fatunad on June 11, 2022, 12:57:09 PM

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I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.

So those near winning patterns are the triggers? Possible but wont really be that precise because emotion and mindset will surely mix up which would go along with those patterns which would really in result
on having those impulsive reaction and perception towards slots gaming.I cant really deny that it could really give out that boost of emotion even just on simply spinning.
Gambling problem is something that wont precisely be blamed off on a single game in the market but rather in overall i should say.

I think yes. As for colorful pictures and music, in fact, after the 100th spin (and for some even earlier), they only cause irritation. For example, I turn off the music immediately. Naturally, the attraction pattern does not work in one game. All games are made in such a way as to create the impression that the win is close. This is how the entire industry works.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 12, 2022, 04:13:53 AM

The thing that gets most people are the small rewards that Slots give people during their playing session. They think that Slots will pay a big Jackpot, if they keep on playing for long enough, but for most people that never happens.

They also see "Paid" Streamers playing a Slot until it pays a big amount and they think that they can do the same thing. Those "Paid" Streamers can do that, because they use a casinos money to do it.... so you cannot emulate that, because you do not have that amount of money.

"Responsible gamblers know when to stop"

And responsible gamblers knows how to manage their emotions as well. When it comes to trading and gambling there's no big difference at all, people would likely to spend more if a well-known or an influencer promotes a certain website. But any form of gambling game can be addictive , we need to learn how to manage this emotion so that it could not make harm to us, sometimes this neurotransmitter make us to bet more for us to feel more alive and bet more to make us feel happy.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on June 12, 2022, 04:13:53 AM

The thing that gets most people are the small rewards that Slots give people during their playing session. They think that Slots will pay a big Jackpot, if they keep on playing for long enough, but for most people that never happens.

They also see "Paid" Streamers playing a Slot until it pays a big amount and they think that they can do the same thing. Those "Paid" Streamers can do that, because they use a casinos money to do it.... so you cannot emulate that, because you do not have that amount of money.

"Responsible gamblers know when to stop"

Only a few number of people could be called as responsible gamblers as most of us are easily get hook to winning especially with slots and other simple gambling games like dice.The emotions we feel when gambling and the thrill of winning keep us on betting.
Those bets you've mentioned that are made by streamers are probably for advertising and yes, the bets they're doing are paid by the casino.

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Quote from: panjul07 on June 11, 2022, 03:24:21 PM

The sensation is not created by the game, but the gamblers themselves who create the sensation in their brain.

Before the creation of sensation, there are what we called triggers. These triggers are the ones responsible for the brain's creation of dopamine which is responsible for allowing us to feel pleasure, satisfaction, and motivation. Without these triggers, the human brain will not produce dopamine and there will be no sensations whatsoever.

So what are these triggers? One of these is playing gambling games. For this example, we will use slots. Then we can refer to the OP specifically the topic on Dopamine – The Brains Reward System^[1] for the explanation.

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Quote from: iv4n on June 12, 2022, 02:48:16 AM

Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7!

Though slot are available for 24/7, but you aren't allowed to play 24/7 without any break, because AFAIK some casinos accuse the account using a robot or any kind software since they think it's not a human.

The casino has some tools to verify if the player is a bot or not. They will check it through the verification process from time to time if they suspect that a bot is playing instead of a person.

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The thing that gets most people are the small rewards that Slots give people during their playing session. They think that Slots will pay a big Jackpot, if they keep on playing for long enough, but for most people that never happens.

They also see "Paid" Streamers playing a Slot until it pays a big amount and they think that they can do the same thing. Those "Paid" Streamers can do that, because they use a casinos money to do it.... so you cannot emulate that, because you do not have that amount of money.

"Responsible gamblers know when to stop"

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Quote from: iv4n on June 12, 2022, 02:48:16 AM

Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7!

Though slot are available for 24/7, but you aren't allowed to play 24/7 without any break, because AFAIK some casinos accuse the account using a robot or any kind software since they think it's not a human.

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And playing slots is not cheap! For most providers and for most popular slots minimum bet is $0.1, and many of them have even higher minimum bet! That affects people to spend a lot of money on slots... I guess $500 is nothing if you play with $1 bets and higher! Definitely, slots are not for people who don't have some control!

Yeah, 500 spins are still not enough because the chance to hit the high multipliers are low except you're really lucky. Usually I play using $100-$200 with $0.1 per bet, so I spins 1000-2000 that's enough for me.

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Quote from: serjent05 on June 11, 2022, 12:06:31 PM

The more reason slots will more likely to cause addiction, because, you can access it anytime, anywhere, without the restriction of scheduled gameplay unlike sports betting.

Yes, well, that's true compared to sports betting but nowadays you can play roulette or say 24/7. The physical slots have some sounds that are made to hook people, and in online they are similar but the other online casino games also emit that kind of sounds. They are sounds that enhance the excitement of gambling and it is the emotions that hook people. So it is clear that slots are more addictive than some types of betting such as sports betting but compared to other casino games I am not so sure.

I remember years ago seeing a person spend all his paycheck on slots, who knows to how many people this will happen today playing online.

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Well, slots are crazy! A huge collection of different slots, in-slot features... they can give a lot, they can take even more! I like to play slots and I play them when I can and when I have money for that! The thing is that slot can eat the balance in minutes if we don't get lucky with bonus rounds! Unlike betting on sports where we need to wait for games we wish to bet on, slots are available 24/7! As I said, there are so many slots, so I like trying them, trying to hit bonus rounds with some higher bet, we always hope for some big or max win... so I guess that is the part why slots are more likely to cause gambling problem!

And playing slots is not cheap! For most providers and for most popular slots minimum bet is $0.1, and many of them have even higher minimum bet! That affects people to spend a lot of money on slots... I guess $500 is nothing if you play with $1 bets and higher! Definitely, slots are not for people who don't have some control!

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 12:10:59 PM

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.

Well, I think it depends for every gamblers. Because any gambling games if you dont have control can be addicting. I know some gamblers who like to play slots but not becoming addicted, hence it depends.

Absolutely correct, it depends on the gamblers. Slot is one of my favorite gambling games, I played for few years but am I addicted? I'm not, I can prove myself that I can stop it although I have not stopped it 100% but I have reduced my gambling session a lot than before. If I have to say I was 100% slot gamblers, but now maybe I'm 20% only. It is a real proof from my own experience that the game is not main factor of the addiction.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 12:10:59 PM

As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

I enjoy playing slots before. But I chose to switch playing to other games. I find it hard to win in slots and sometimes I tend to exceeds to my budget for wanting to hit a high multiplier and somehow get back what I lost.

Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 12:10:59 PM

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.

Well, I think it depends for every gamblers. Because any gambling games if you dont have control can be addicting. I know some gamblers who like to play slots but not becoming addicted, hence it depends.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 11, 2022, 12:50:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on June 10, 2022, 06:34:34 PM

I have the perception slots is one of the gambling games we have lowest control over the gameplay. There isn't much freedom to configure the game as you want. It's different from a dice game, where you can bet from 1 satoshi on, while playing with the odds as you wish. Slots work 100% in function of extra/bonus spins which you can buy for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Without those special spins which boost your rolls with extra multipliers, you just lose money.
In my opinion, the visual aspect is the main reason why people feel so excited and tempted to play these games, added to the huge multiplier bonus, since it looks fascinating withall those colors, icons and brights alive on your screen.

I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.

Without a doubt slots is a gambling game which has been very carefully designed to cater to the needs of gamblers and as such there is a higher chance to get addicted to it than in other games, after all unlike poker or blackjack which require a great deal of knowledge in order to play correctly slots is a game so simple that anyone can play it, as you only need to deposit some money and pull a lever, which is one of the reasons why slots occupy most of the physical space of a casino, so they are incredibly popular due to their simplicity.

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Quote from: Cling18 on June 11, 2022, 07:44:38 AM

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That's true because the game is just a game while the gamblers are various and many of them can't control themselves when they play. Many are affected by the negative effects of gambling because they lose control of themselves and do not know how to control it. Slots are just like other gambling games, which are fun to play but we must completely control ourselves. Otherwise, we will lose a lot of money and in the end, we will get addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on June 10, 2022, 03:10:49 AM

A question to slots players out there, have you ever felt the uncontrollable urge to gamble after exposing yourself to slots games for a long period of time? How did you manage to keep sane after being exposed to the most addictive gambling game in the industry?

First and foremost, not all the players in the slot machines are addicted unto it. Although in this topic you posted was too informative and helpful as well to everyone who are always in the gambling site. In fact, through this discussion you feed me about this things regarding the cause of gambling problem. Now back to this question you asked, my answer is yes! I really felt uncontrollable, and I don't want to elaborate that's my experienced during the time I was addicted to slot machine I can't deny that things.

It’s not surprising that a lot of gamblers fall into slot machines addiction as they can be enticing and very exciting to play. Even myself I can attest to that. However, if you have discipline and set limit on your gambling activities, even to your losses, I can say that we can fight that addiction. Slot machines are only good and profitable at the start, along with some beginner’s luck but I won’t advise it for long term activity as it could create more losses on your wallet than seeing your gains.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 12:10:59 PM

As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.

I'm quite sure you are experienced user in this gambling board as you managed some gambling campaign in the past, but this post make me confuse as you talk like you are a newbie.
The sensation is not created by the game, but the gamblers themselves who create the sensation in their brain.
If the other games like dice, cards, sportsbook, does not create the sensation as you are talking about, then why there are so many people also being addicted to these type of game?

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Quote from: Fatunad on June 10, 2022, 12:46:53 PM

As a business then you would really be thinking on different ways or methods on how they would be hooking up players even on means of those good or catchy thumbnails which
i could say that it is really that effective plus having those big multiplier kind of advertisement which you could possibly hit on playing slots then thats do really adding up the
interest and curiosity thats why we do really ending up on trying it on our own and do lose up in the end if you arent lucky enough.We know the odds and chances of winning slots
where it is really low and when your emotion burst up then this is where addiction starts to come out.

Even now, I still see people closest to me who started gambling complain for the umpteenth time. Spend their money just being lulled by thumbnails and also messages coming in from casino promoters. Marketing techniques that are very addictive, they are difficult to avoid when slot gambling gives curiosity as well as addiction. Self-control especially for beginners who fall into slot games has really become a rife phenomenon in the surrounding environment.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 11, 2022, 12:50:39 PM

Quote from: uneng on June 10, 2022, 06:34:34 PM

I have the perception slots is one of the gambling games we have lowest control over the gameplay. There isn't much freedom to configure the game as you want. It's different from a dice game, where you can bet from 1 satoshi on, while playing with the odds as you wish. Slots work 100% in function of extra/bonus spins which you can buy for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Without those special spins which boost your rolls with extra multipliers, you just lose money.
In my opinion, the visual aspect is the main reason why people feel so excited and tempted to play these games, added to the huge multiplier bonus, since it looks fascinating withall those colors, icons and brights alive on your screen.

I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.

So those near winning patterns are the triggers? Possible but wont really be that precise because emotion and mindset will surely mix up which would go along with those patterns which would really in result
on having those impulsive reaction and perception towards slots gaming.I cant really deny that it could really give out that boost of emotion even just on simply spinning.
Gambling problem is something that wont precisely be blamed off on a single game in the market but rather in overall i should say.

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Quote from: uneng on June 10, 2022, 06:34:34 PM

I have the perception slots is one of the gambling games we have lowest control over the gameplay. There isn't much freedom to configure the game as you want. It's different from a dice game, where you can bet from 1 satoshi on, while playing with the odds as you wish. Slots work 100% in function of extra/bonus spins which you can buy for hundreds or thousands of dollars. Without those special spins which boost your rolls with extra multipliers, you just lose money.
In my opinion, the visual aspect is the main reason why people feel so excited and tempted to play these games, added to the huge multiplier bonus, since it looks fascinating withall those colors, icons and brights alive on your screen.

I think that the main element of attraction and the appearance of the desire to spin again is that visually the player gets a picture where he sees that if he got a slightly different symbol (or a couple of symbols), he would win a lot of money. This creates the illusion that a win is near and forces him to keep playing. Although in fact he was not even close to winning and his further attempts have the same low probability as the first ones.

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Quote from: Falconer on June 11, 2022, 12:20:43 PM

Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 12:10:59 PM

As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.

Good or bad game depends on how a gambler does it. I think slots are still a good game in any casino and it seems like a mandatory game for casinos because the appeal is quite high. I'm not assuming that slots are a bad game just because gamblers are more likely to get addicted, it's a risk to anyone and of course only the gambler should be held responsible for whatever he suffers.

There are a few things to note if you don't want to get addicted to certain games, you have to have control and not be greedy. If one does not want to be addicted and fear to addicted then never gamble, it is the best option for them.

Oh yes sir, what that you say is true, but you should also note that to be this you should play responsible. If you become addicted from this games, you'll not have any type of control, really hard to have that when you're

addicted, so, just stay away from this kind of game especially if you are a subject that could be "addicted" in future.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 11, 2022, 12:10:59 PM

As you said slots is really a bad way to gamble.

Why? Because slots creates to the human brain the same sensation as when a human being assumes Cocaine.

There are other way to gamble, like dice, play cards, sportsbook ecc. try to avoid in every way the use of Slot.

Good or bad game depends on how a gambler does it. I think slots are still a good game in any casino and it seems like a mandatory game for casinos because the appeal is quite high. I'm not assuming that slots are a bad game just because gamblers are more likely to get addicted, it's a risk to anyone and of course only the gambler should be held responsible for whatever he suffers.

There are a few things to note if you don't want to get addicted to certain games, you have to have control and not be greedy. If one does not want to be addicted and fear to addicted then never gamble, it is the best option for them.

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