I think that the slot providers or the casinos are trying to make the gamblers to be constantly trying to increase their wins by giving them less. Winning less than the amount used to gamble can be seen as getting something instead of totally losing everything. It depends on the individual that is gambling on the slot, some will be happy to win something as a compensation instead of totally losing out while for others it can be annoying experiences. Casino sites wants you to lose more than you will win, that is the essence of the house edge, for you to be winning less than your bankroll
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It would be lovely but I doubt that will happen.
It's hit or miss, I think that's what you are saying. It's either 0 or x1 - x1000+ no decimals. Well, there are games that don't use decimals in casino games but I have not yet bumped into one in slots. Maybe there's one that we have not yet known and some did.
Still, I am frustrated with other things in slots than that. Like getting 0 - x5 in free spins. I will take an x10 but I am frustrated when it goes lower than that especially if you bought it, that's more hurtful.
It's hit or miss, I think that's what you are saying. It's either 0 or x1 - x1000+ no decimals. Well, there are games that don't use decimals in casino games but I have not yet bumped into one in slots. Maybe there's one that we have not yet known and some did.
Still, I am frustrated with other things in slots than that. Like getting 0 - x5 in free spins. I will take an x10 but I am frustrated when it goes lower than that especially if you bought it, that's more hurtful.
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Personally for me win is win i mean no matter the amount is still win but yeah sometimes you upset because the risk losing of all your money in reward of coiple of dollar or cent.
But if this screenshot comes from the slot then you should know that the win from the slot game somtime is lower frlm ypur initial bet
Thanks for your replies guys, but I see some of you are missing my point. I never said every spin giving you 2x+ of your bet. That would be stupid. 200%+ RTP? What I meant was RTP remains the same, that's why I said "Sure, those [2x+] would appear less often", but you'll have no "wins" like 50% of your bet or so. Also I disagree that gamblers would abandon such slots because they would be seeing no wins. As a casino you can give four 2x wins within 10 spins and still be in profit, and as a customer you would not be thinking "I never win" while getting 4 wins within 10 spins.
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
If we look into the most of the conditions that gives the kind of payout, the probability for winning is high, secondly the amount involved mostly are small, but if you want to increase the amount to win as well, then you will have to increase as well your stake in other to make the profit over it tangible, but most low risk bets don't even comes with bonus except for some, because they know you're taking less on risk and may likely win the bet, there is nothing to get annoyed about in this kind of games because we already know or have an idea on the possible amount to win and such is likely to come.
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
This is a design to make every gambler think that we'll win more than that. But eventually, we'll lose the majority of what we've got and that's why it sucks to be in that situation when you've been hitting the slots for so long and you get lesser than 2x but that's it, it's better to have something lesser than the multiplier than losing and have nothing. Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
I'm sure most gamblers, especially those involved in casino games such as slots, must have experienced or even often experienced something like this where the bet amount and the results of the game are much bigger than the bet 
, I think it's not something strange when we talk about slot games, in fact I have also had results that are much worse than what you experienced OP where I bet with a bet of $ 0.80 and managed to get a scatter bonus but when I got to the last round in the bonus it turned out that the amount I got was only $ 0.01 haha of course that's very annoying. But yes, this is gambling, especially casino games, so as many people have said, when you bet, especially in casino games, never put too much hope because in the end it will only make you feel disappointed.
, I think it's not something strange when we talk about slot games, in fact I have also had results that are much worse than what you experienced OP where I bet with a bet of $ 0.80 and managed to get a scatter bonus but when I got to the last round in the bonus it turned out that the amount I got was only $ 0.01 haha of course that's very annoying. But yes, this is gambling, especially casino games, so as many people have said, when you bet, especially in casino games, never put too much hope because in the end it will only make you feel disappointed. 
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I don't mind it personally? I mean it entices the players by often showing that "win" pop-up, regardless of the amount so it's understandable why game providers keep it. Otherwise, there'd be waaay more losses shown and would cause people to quit. At least this kind of thing keeps the dopamine running. Personally don't give a crap since I'd like to think I'm not influenced by dopamine but would probably quit if it was removed since I AM influenced by dopamine lol.I mean we already can't beat the edge anyway, might as well let the people enjoy their small wins.
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
If you did this then people would probably feel like they were never winning and stop playing. These small wins enable you to sit at a table longer having more fun while feeling like you aren’t just losing money every time you spin. Get rid of the small wins and people would just lose until their money is gone and then never play again.
Even though many gamblers don't really like small wins, but I think for most gamblers, they will think it's better to win small instead of nothing.
For me personally, I prefer this small wins than games where there are no multipliers lower than 1; most times when I just want to have fun this types of odds that gives you something for every spin you make do help me prolong my game time - those little wins I get are enough for me to use for my next bet and so the circle continues till it finally gets to the balance where I can’t bet again.
For those who are hunting for huge profits will definitely be annoyed of this type of result but for those in the same category I described above won’t think much about it.
I don't think such kind games will become popular because the RTP rates will be low since the volatility is really high. The gambler will suffer many lose in a row and only win few times, even though every win give big rewards.
Even though many gamblers don't really like small wins, but I think for most gamblers, they will think it's better to win small instead of nothing.
Even though many gamblers don't really like small wins, but I think for most gamblers, they will think it's better to win small instead of nothing.
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Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Nope.
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead?
Nope.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Maybe. If I slot like that was available I perhaps would try it and see if I liked it more but I like the slots as the prizes are now. When I play slots I care more about the big prizes than the small ones, whether they are less than the price of the spin or double the price of the spin, because for me they are a way to keep my balance until I hit a jackpot, which is what really matters to me.
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
I wouldn't think that slot operators are going to make a slot like this, everything is still base on RTP and so they will have all the advantage no matter what, after all it's the house edge and no one can beat that. And that is part of the game, you feel frustrated, you chase for bigger wins but wagering max bet so in the end, casinos are the real winner.
Of course as gamblers we don't want small wins or even dead spin, at least a payout will be good. But they don't want to give favor, and there could be gamblers who feel that a win is still a win no matter what, it's human psychology that slot operators uses against us.
I don't know if that could become popular or not but I guess that will makes people curious and will still playing on that slot. They don't think that it is very difficult to win by playing that slot game and they need to search for the other slot game.
I often wins that small amount but I don't think that is annoying because I know that will depend on my luck. I already tried to increase the bet but that doesn't gives me much winning and still lose much. But I can accept those small winning and just consider I am not luck at that day.
I often wins that small amount but I don't think that is annoying because I know that will depend on my luck. I already tried to increase the bet but that doesn't gives me much winning and still lose much. But I can accept those small winning and just consider I am not luck at that day.
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
I have no bias towards such small winning prices as I think they motivate people to proceed further in their slot affairs. Nevertheless I would appreciate if the given slot allowed me to set the price by myself. This would let me off the leash and allow to follow the plot of my bankroll setting the price low when it goes downward and high in the case of its upward move. I have to admit that this is the best tactic which works for me at any gambling.
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Casinos knows that winning are winning even though the money is small or it's big it's still winning. And some customers will complain when they wagered amount big and win small and the casino did not pay them the small amount they won. I have experienced this one virtual games, and the reason why I won smaller than I wagered is because I backed up a lot of games (big odds and small odds) altogether, so only the small odds played and that was why I was received the small money.Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
If there are slots that give us guarantee 2x for every bet, dont you think that the owner of the game is doing big charity to the players LOL?
No providers will create such slot with minimum 2x result in every bet, they are doing business to make profit so it is impossible to see such slot.
Logically that's how the game owner make profit (from our losing bets), how can they make profit if they create a game that give guarantee of at least 2x on every bet?
Not only slot games, there is no single gambling game that will give us minimum 2x on every bet, I think you are dreaming too much
You won't really feel the win with that kind of payout. Small multipliers only make sense if you're placing bigger bets.
For me, I’d rather bet less than a dollar per spin and aim for at least a x10 win, that way, I can actually enjoy the thrill of hitting something decent.
No gambler will deposit or just have $0.2 to gamble. They will have more than that. I think OP just take one of his winning but I think he will gamble more. But if he gamble just only gamble $0.2 once to make that conclusion, that is very wrong. It would have been good to use like $5 to gamble with $0.2 each before asking this question.For me, I’d rather bet less than a dollar per spin and aim for at least a x10 win, that way, I can actually enjoy the thrill of hitting something decent.
After all, the whole point of playing slots is to experience those big wins, right?
Playing it too safe with small bets and tiny multipliers doesn’t make sense, IMO it’s just a waste of time without the excitement.
I disagree with you about this. It is better to gamble with small amount of money and spend more time on gambling if you want to than to use high amount on gambling which could mean waste of money or addiction.Playing it too safe with small bets and tiny multipliers doesn’t make sense, IMO it’s just a waste of time without the excitement.
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
I think all casinos that provide slot type games do this, the goal is for the profit they get is greater than what is spent on their customers. Honestly this is annoying but what can you do, casinos are also a business that is looking for profit, so it is natural when we place a certain amount of bets and get wins that are smaller than the amount of bets we play.Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
With the reality now like that, many people do it, this proves that this type of slot gambling is very popular and I think not only in my country but in all countries it is likely like this. Besides, we can't do anything, right?
Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?
Or when we buy a super bonus and get under x10... and that happens more often than you think.
Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?
I already wrote about LDWs:
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Do losses disguised as wins create a “sweet spot” for win overestimates in multiline slots play?
You can read more about it here, or on other sites: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306460320307280.
I am not sure if that would be more popular, but for sure it would be "less interesting"... We play slots for visual as well as auditory stimulation... nobody likes to win less than what they invested, but that's where LDW comes in, subconsciously we like to hear that sound of victory, it's much nicer than a dead spin. So after 5-10 dead spins (or more), it's nice to hear some "winning bells".
It's psychology, slots are designed to be the way they are. Even though we know that the odds are against us and that slots are very risky, we like to play them. Those who want/prefer to play only x2 (or higher) payouts can play Limbo (or any other game where we can choose a multiplier). Wins will appear more often and we will still be frustrated if we are on "the losing side".
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