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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

Yes when you are a normal gambler or a person who knows who the casinos induestries works on the head of the people who plays in it.

You know that little wins are made to let your brain think he is winning something and wants to catch more the cheese or the jackpot who is more far away. And yes when you know it is also a joke and made you annoying.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

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What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

I don't usually invest my time playing on slots, but if I had to guess I would say such a thing is made on purpose by casinos and game providers in order to keep people psychologically engaged and they continue to wager money. It would be more frustrating for anyone to start to accumulate loss after loss and not seeing any "win" after several tries, so they do this in order to keep the illusion of "winning anything".
I have only played slots a few times and in my opinion this is one of the reasons I would rather to use my time on other games like Blackjack, where there is at least the illusion of choice and strategy, given by the game to the gambler.

In the end, if anyone of us feel the game we play does not give us joy any longer, it is better to quit and move onto a different one

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Quote from: vs2014 on January 10, 2025, 04:05:18 AM

But once you understand the meaning of the various terms and how online slots work, it becomes a simple process and can enhance your online gambling experience. So even though the slots are random, players can still improve their experience by applying certain strategies. So we should provide a rundown of how the slots work below. The best strategies for online slots include managing your bankroll and choosing games with high rtp to return to the player. Play within your limits and take advantage of bonuses and free spins. Remember that online slots are primarily based.

Slots are already simple but sometimes people are just curious. We always want to know what this and that term means, so we research them. It gives a satisfaction though and a sense of achievement or confidence, that once again our knowledge have increased. Some terms are still important to understand if we are taking the game seriously, like for example the odds.

Managing a bankroll seems basic and not really what we called as a strategy and in fact slot is a luck-based game, so like they say, there is no real strategy here.

As for the bonus, sadly the casino only choose the slots games with the high RTP. They are still wiser than us after all; this is the reason, we always should remember the famous saying, "house always wins in the end". It all means, you may win and enjoy in-between.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 08, 2025, 10:02:55 AM

It would be lovely but I doubt that will happen.

It's hit or miss, I think that's what you are saying. It's either 0 or x1 - x1000+ no decimals. Well, there are games that don't use decimals in casino games but I have not yet bumped into one in slots. Maybe there's one that we have not yet known and some did.
Still, I am frustrated with other things in slots than that. Like getting 0 - x5 in free spins. I will take an x10 but I am frustrated when it goes lower than that especially if you bought it, that's more hurtful.

Yeah, I can relate, mate. At one point I decided to never buy bonus rounds, unless it's some kind of challenge where that is required. It's rarely worth it. You pay $20 and then if you get 75x of your basic bet, it's still $15, so, you are at loss of $5 while it looks like you've won with a good multiplier. That's frustrating.

Regarding your doubt, idk, who knows? Among thousands of slots there could be a couple of that type that I proposed. And even if only 1–2% of gamblers preferred playing them, it would be worth it.

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But once you understand the meaning of the various terms and how online slots work, it becomes a simple process and can enhance your online gambling experience. So even though the slots are random, players can still improve their experience by applying certain strategies. So we should provide a rundown of how the slots work below. The best strategies for online slots include managing your bankroll and choosing games with high rtp to return to the player. Play within your limits and take advantage of bonuses and free spins. Remember that online slots are primarily based.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

It has always been a kind of this when you bet with lesser amount of wager with low odds.
Being sincere I feel bad after picking my games and just to find the potential winning amount being small with how much risks I am think I've already taken on my games decision.
But the truth is that if we want to win big then we should bet big wager to probably take higher decision risks.

I think in this case we are talking about odds and also probabilities in gambling, so it is undeniable that the size of your bet will of course affect your chances of winning big or not, but in this case when we set a bet of 0.2 but win with a smaller win, it can actually also happen when we also set a bigger bet such as 0.8 but win 0.5, So it does seem like a win but it's actually a loss for us Grin

, small bets with low odds often result in small wins, but I think this also makes the risk of losing money smaller for us to be able to enjoy the game longer.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

It has always been a kind of this when you bet with lesser amount of wager with low odds.
Being sincere I feel bad after picking my games and just to find the potential winning amount being small with how much risks I am think I've already taken on my games decision.
But the truth is that if we want to win big then we should bet big wager to probably take higher decision risks.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 09, 2025, 02:48:51 PM

But the secret with slots is to have not less than 200 spins on your side and if you are after some monster multipliers you can try a minimum of 500spins and leverage that high RTP for a handsome payout...otherwise anything less than this you could be chasing your loses Cry

So my rule of thumb is plan your way to profits before you hit the spin button Cool

Yeah right, that 500 spins is equivalent to the super bonus buy of most slot provider that often gives the monster multiplier compared to 100 spins equivalent normal bonus buy.

Although the problem on manual spin especially on some slot provider that doesn’t have turbo spin is the boredom on looking to bunch of dead spins and to the spin that almost get you in to bonus round but short with 1 scatter symbol.

I always preferred bonus buy compared to manual because I don’t have much time to look at each spin due to my eyes condition.

I think we can't plan a win at all and even when we are unlucky then all the spins will not get a good return.
I often experience this, even in 100 to 500 spins I don't get a decent win, one of the reasons is I'm unlucky. Even when I use the buy feature, I don't even get a multiplier at all, yes that's because I'm unlucky.
But on some occasions too, when I do 1 to 5 spins, I can even get a bonus spin and with a big win too. So once again I think we can't plan a win.

if you think about it we can plan the victory it seems like it can make us get more profit than defeat, besides planning the victory is almost the same as the dream of everyone who gambles with the dream of wanting to get a big win. If we can plan the victory then I will not work better to gamble continuously just like a job in general.
Gambling is very tight with luck, I once found the remaining balance in my casino wallet was only enough for one round, even with the lowest bet amount, on a whim I clicked on it what happened I got a free spin, this was really beyond my prediction and with the total amount of profit from the free spins was quite large.

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Quote from: hyudien on January 10, 2025, 01:38:14 AM

I think we can't plan a win at all and even when we are unlucky then all the spins will not get a good return.
I often experience this, even in 100 to 500 spins I don't get a decent win, one of the reasons is I'm unlucky. Even when I use the buy feature, I don't even get a multiplier at all, yes that's because I'm unlucky.
But on some occasions too, when I do 1 to 5 spins, I can even get a bonus spin and with a big win too. So once again I think we can't plan a win.

I can handle to spins from 100 to 200 spins without use the buy bonus feature. But as you say, that still difficult to win some money because that will depend on our luck and that will happen too when you use buy bonus feature. Playing slot game need luck so whether we use manual spin or use bonus buy feature, we really need luck to win.

But when you have your luck, you can win easily and even that will only need 1 spin and you win big money because you hit big multiplier. I have experienced what @Betwrong experienced and I am sure that many of us also have the same thing. So we don't have to chase the win because that can cost us too much money.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

This kind of victory always happens, in the bonus round only gives low fraction once and the amount of victory is much lower than the amount of bet we set, this is the victory that I hate the most from the slot game even though I used to get this kind of victory several times in buying bonus.
Remain the same and even though it is always experienced by gamblers with unreasonable victories, slot remain one of the most popular games with multiplier offers reaching tens, hundreds and even thousands of times which makes gamblers tempted to play to get the multiplier.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 09, 2025, 02:48:51 PM

But the secret with slots is to have not less than 200 spins on your side and if you are after some monster multipliers you can try a minimum of 500spins and leverage that high RTP for a handsome payout...otherwise anything less than this you could be chasing your loses Cry

So my rule of thumb is plan your way to profits before you hit the spin button Cool

Yeah right, that 500 spins is equivalent to the super bonus buy of most slot provider that often gives the monster multiplier compared to 100 spins equivalent normal bonus buy.

Although the problem on manual spin especially on some slot provider that doesn’t have turbo spin is the boredom on looking to bunch of dead spins and to the spin that almost get you in to bonus round but short with 1 scatter symbol.

I always preferred bonus buy compared to manual because I don’t have much time to look at each spin due to my eyes condition.

I think we can't plan a win at all and even when we are unlucky then all the spins will not get a good return.
I often experience this, even in 100 to 500 spins I don't get a decent win, one of the reasons is I'm unlucky. Even when I use the buy feature, I don't even get a multiplier at all, yes that's because I'm unlucky.
But on some occasions too, when I do 1 to 5 spins, I can even get a bonus spin and with a big win too. So once again I think we can't plan a win.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 09, 2025, 02:48:51 PM

It is quite annoying if you are playing on a small bankroll and all your spins come short with $0 or less than the base bet Roll Eyes

But the secret with slots is to have not less than 200 spins on your side and if you are after some monster multipliers you can try a minimum of 500spins and leverage that high RTP for a handsome payout...otherwise anything less than this you could be chasing your loses Cry

So my rule of thumb is plan your way to profits before you hit the spin button Cool

I highly agree, I also noticed that if we spin more than 100 on the same spin, the chance of winning become slimmer and often times if we continue and stick on the same slot the whole session the series of dead spin is noticeably increasing and at the end of the session we find our bankroll depleted and if ever we hit a bonus round it often gives a small payout. I even experienced 0 wins from the triggered bonus spin.

Quote from: cryptoaddictchie on January 10, 2025, 12:30:52 AM

Probably it would be popular but winning with less than bet are made so it would be fair also on their side. If tis only higher and bigget then they wouldnt have a chance to earn too. For sure thats part of the system of the game they made.

Even in casino I always won less than my bet its quite frustrating but thats how the game works. Also you have chance to win bigger by some promo or event or combo in the game.

It would be if the player hit often but if the player hits rarely then many will avoid it. Just like what the earlier replies stated, many slots player prefer to have at least a return on their bet even if it is just the fraction of it so that they can play longer and have more chance of triggering bonuses and high multiplier wins.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

Probably it would be popular but winning with less than bet are made so it would be fair also on their side. If tis only higher and bigget then they wouldnt have a chance to earn too. For sure thats part of the system of the game they made.

Even in casino I always won less than my bet its quite frustrating but thats how the game works. Also you have chance to win bigger by some promo or event or combo in the game.

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I barely find those half-wins annoying because I get to put more bets in and they make my sessions longer compared to the games with slightly better payouts.

From my experience, those games with bigger payouts are annoying and punishing knowing you can't do much about it aside from jumping to another game. Even if you hit their smallest multipliers, you'll still pay by losing the next 10-50 bets until your bankroll can't survive to land another win.

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Quote from: Woodie on January 09, 2025, 02:48:51 PM

But the secret with slots is to have not less than 200 spins on your side and if you are after some monster multipliers you can try a minimum of 500spins and leverage that high RTP for a handsome payout...otherwise anything less than this you could be chasing your loses Cry

So my rule of thumb is plan your way to profits before you hit the spin button Cool

Yeah right, that 500 spins is equivalent to the super bonus buy of most slot provider that often gives the monster multiplier compared to 100 spins equivalent normal bonus buy.

Although the problem on manual spin especially on some slot provider that doesn’t have turbo spin is the boredom on looking to bunch of dead spins and to the spin that almost get you in to bonus round but short with 1 scatter symbol.

I always preferred bonus buy compared to manual because I don’t have much time to look at each spin due to my eyes condition.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

I've always thought that about lottery scratch offs. I either want to win or lose, break even. Regarding slots, if you only won or lost, you would def experience less winning spins and likely lose money faster, so if going to play for entertainment only then it might be ok. If playing to make money I'd rather be able to win a portion of my bet back to keep me alive longer so that I have more of a chance to hit a jackpot.

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I don't mind it personally? I mean it entices the players by often showing that "win" pop-up, regardless of the amount so it's understandable why game providers keep it. Otherwise, there'd be waaay more losses shown and would cause people to quit. At least this kind of thing keeps the dopamine running. Personally don't give a crap since I'd like to think I'm not influenced by dopamine but would probably quit if it was removed since I AM influenced by dopamine lol.

I mean we already can't beat the edge anyway, might as well let the people enjoy their small wins.

That's also a way to think about it. Although I'm understanding the OP's point in a way, as it feels like the risk is far greater than the reward, even though in this case we're only taking about s few cents. I personally don't really mind, especially games like slots are almost impossible to break even, I'd appreciate a few wins to break up the loss pattern. It's certainly far better than losing, so I don't really understand what this fuss is about, at the end of the day, these minor winnings add up to a substantial amount, why should we look down on them? It's still a win.

True, the point is that it is very natural if the amount of winnings is small because after all gambling is an activity that can never be known about the results and as you said even though the amount is small and not even able to reach the break-even point from the amount we have spent in the end it is still a win, and I am sure that the biggest reason OP included his post here is because he was very disappointed with the results but in any case there is nothing strange about the scenario of his small win, especially since he played a type of casino game like slots, in my opinion there is nothing that should be questioned from the incident

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It is quite annoying if you are playing on a small bankroll and all your spins come short with $0 or less than the base bet Roll Eyes

But the secret with slots is to have not less than 200 spins on your side and if you are after some monster multipliers you can try a minimum of 500spins and leverage that high RTP for a handsome payout...otherwise anything less than this you could be chasing your loses Cry

So my rule of thumb is plan your way to profits before you hit the spin button Cool

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

Such things are not uncommon in slot games, you are too much if you hope that every bet can win more than what you expect, you can even go home without winning anything in the slot, that's the reality that slot games are very unpredictable and very volatile.
The interesting thing here will be very surprising at some time, therefore slots are very popular with many gamblers, but if you think that what kind of slot you show in the picture consistently happens to every gambler who tries it, of course it will not be interesting in the future and will never be popular, they come here to try their luck not just to waste money.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

We can't considera that a win, if we bet 0.2 and get back 0.08, then we lose 0.12, so, that's a lose, but getting something back isn't bad at all. Personally I prefer to get 0.08 back than getting zero.

You can see It as the plinko game, where you always get something back, x0 is not an option, and x0.2 is a lose that pays something back.

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