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Quote from: Wexnident on January 07, 2025, 04:02:21 PM

I don't mind it personally? I mean it entices the players by often showing that "win" pop-up, regardless of the amount so it's understandable why game providers keep it. Otherwise, there'd be waaay more losses shown and would cause people to quit. At least this kind of thing keeps the dopamine running. Personally don't give a crap since I'd like to think I'm not influenced by dopamine but would probably quit if it was removed since I AM influenced by dopamine lol.

I mean we already can't beat the edge anyway, might as well let the people enjoy their small wins.

That's also a way to think about it. Although I'm understanding the OP's point in a way, as it feels like the risk is far greater than the reward, even though in this case we're only taking about s few cents. I personally don't really mind, especially games like slots are almost impossible to break even, I'd appreciate a few wins to break up the loss pattern. It's certainly far better than losing, so I don't really understand what this fuss is about, at the end of the day, these minor winnings add up to a substantial amount, why should we look down on them? It's still a win.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 08, 2025, 08:43:12 AM

Thanks for your replies guys, but I see some of you are missing my point. I never said every spin giving you 2x+ of your bet. That would be stupid. 200%+ RTP? What I meant was RTP remains the same, that's why I said "Sure, those [2x+] would appear less often", but you'll have no "wins" like 50% of your bet or so. Also I disagree that gamblers would abandon such slots because they would be seeing no wins. As a casino you can give four 2x wins within 10 spins and still be in profit, and as a customer you would not be thinking "I never win" while getting 4 wins within 10 spins.

At this point, it would just depend on my overall mood lmao.

Sometimes, I'd be more motivated with seeing more frequent wins however small that is. Other times, there will be one slot I'd get strangely hooked on even though it's dead spins galore and I'd spin my depo on it to oblivion lol.

Looking back, there were plenty of times too that I've switched a slot game because all I've been getting were mostly less than my bet or a little over it lol—got impatient lol.

I would say both schemes are good in their own way. All part of the game of chance—that there are good and poor winnings.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

There are some slots like that but the problem is that they are not as popular as the slots which gives you even smaller payouts and has a hit frequency of more often than those slots that pay the minimum the double of your amount. This is not the problem with the slot machines in my opinion, the problem is that they need to remove that buy in feature option from many of them as that devastates many people, let the people hit the spin until they hit it once and this way people are saved from losing a lot of money because buying the feature is usually x100 your amount of bet and higher, for this reason I like very much the Play n Go provider which never implements such thing in their games.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

Gambling is for entertainment, not for making money. If gambling is for entertainment to me, then I will never be Annoying if I bet $0.2 and win less than that because I have accepted gambling as entertainment.

I don't mind if there are no small wins like this and instead there are 2x payouts because I come to gambling for entertainment, not to make money.

A gambling platform cannot be popular only on slot games. A gambling platform can become popular with a variety of games. People will definitely like it if they can hit high amounts of money with low amounts of money in slot games because everyone likes to hit high potential amounts.

Finally, I would like to say that playing slots is not popular with me because I don't like playing games that are based on luck. I always prefer betting on sports which is popular with me.

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@OP, this is nothing new and it's same for many casino (if not all casinos). Even if this was a complain, I don't think anything can be done to change it, you have some casino that has as large as 500x multiplayer and also very low multiplayer than can make you win less amount you used in placing the bet. That's to say, you could use a small amount to also win a very significant amount and you can use a big amount to also hit a small win because of the low multiplayer, vice versa.

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Quote from: summonerrk on January 09, 2025, 09:15:36 AM

I will express the opinion that it is a rather strange idea on the part of casino designers to make such winnings that are less than the bet itself. I even think that it is a little humiliating. The feeling that the gambler is considered a fool who is happy with the fact of winning, even if it is a multiplication by 0.3 of the bet. Agree, it even sounds stupid. The winnings should be at least x2 of the bet, and then any winnings will really be emotionally felt as a winning. And now if a gambler wins in slots, he will not be happy until he looks closely at how much he has won.

If slot developer do this I think only few players will play on their slot games since their game design typically high volatility which means you will encounter a lot of spin that zero profit in the process before you will hit something big like above x2.

It’s playing dice game set on the winning chance rate. You will keep hitting lose after you win which most slot players will never appreciate compared to the current design that gives back part of the lose bet just like Plinko games.

Plinko is much better on dice game because it gives you an opportunity to not lose 100% of your bet while your wager count is still counted as 100% of your bet.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

I will express the opinion that it is a rather strange idea on the part of casino designers to make such winnings that are less than the bet itself. I even think that it is a little humiliating. The feeling that the gambler is considered a fool who is happy with the fact of winning, even if it is a multiplication by 0.3 of the bet. Agree, it even sounds stupid. The winnings should be at least x2 of the bet, and then any winnings will really be emotionally felt as a winning. And now if a gambler wins in slots, he will not be happy until he looks closely at how much he has won.

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Slots is made in such a way, the small wins that you accumulate in the middle of the game only boost your bankroll in minute amounts giving you are false confidence that you have a chance at winning and that you should continue to play. The loss in slots is because people dont understand that hitting the bonus is an uncommon thing and reaching that even once will lead to a negative net profit.

Indeed the annoyance builds the frustration that leads to more rolls from the player's side, so in fact you win or lose you are sticking to that game for quite a few hours.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

I think it’s much better than a total dead spin imho of we are talking about normal spin since it will give you a certain portion of your lose bets which is good if you want to accumulate wager at same time by hunting high multiplier. It gives more room for more spin.

What I find frustrating is having that kind of result or almost zero win on buying bonus feature. It’s absurd to think that a bonus buy will result to zero while it’s equivalent to approximately 100 spin which is impossible to experience on normal spin.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

No, since I know that slots with this kind of result are normal. If one is a regular slots player having a result like this won't make them irritated because slot players also knows the fact that despite of these many low results, there are also times although rare to happen that slots can give one more than 3x of his bet and if very lucky can hit the limit pay out or max win like 1000x to 100kx depending on the offer of the slot.

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Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

I don't mind and I won't feel anything if the slots minimal limit is paying out 2x since we all agree that our goal is to hit the highest possible multiplier.

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What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

I do not think that the minimal payout alone can make the slot popular, besides what is the difference of such game when all the player get is mostly 0x wins? I would rather have a slots game that can at least payout a smaller minimal amount of winnings in higher intervals than having 2x but rarely gets it.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

Funny tho but this happens to me on most cases and I become so frustrated like why this but I came to understand that slot games especially multipliers works on this basis, you tend to put bigger amount and win a Small amount and vise versa, sometimes you might be lucky to have huge wins alongside the amount you use to bet but it'll sure prove to you that most odds won't be on your side so then a more reason to gamble free with what you can afford to lose than regrets.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

Personally for me win is win i mean no matter the amount is still win but yeah sometimes you upset because the risk losing of all your money in reward of coiple of dollar or cent.

But if this screenshot comes from the slot then you should know that the win from the slot game somtime is lower frlm ypur initial bet

Of course, because talking about winning, no matter how much it is, it can still be categorized as a win because it is the result of the bet we placed and it may seem disappointing, but in my opinion, there is no need to worry because that means you are far from luck, my friend.
I agree with what you said that slot games are a type of gambling that has a very low chance of winning because most games are designed to benefit the casino and game providers, so my advice seems quite simple, which is that the point is when we bet on any type of gambling, one thing we must instill in ourselves is never to have excessive expectations and also never be disappointed with whatever the results.

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I think that the slot providers or the casinos are trying to make the gamblers to be constantly trying to increase their wins by giving them less. Winning less than the amount used to gamble can be seen as getting something instead of totally losing everything. It depends on the individual that is gambling on the slot, some will be happy to win something as a compensation instead of totally losing out while for others it can be annoying experiences. Casino sites wants you to lose more than you will win, that is the essence of the house edge, for you to be winning less than your bankroll

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It would be lovely but I doubt that will happen.

It's hit or miss, I think that's what you are saying. It's either 0 or x1 - x1000+ no decimals. Well, there are games that don't use decimals in casino games but I have not yet bumped into one in slots. Maybe there's one that we have not yet known and some did.
Still, I am frustrated with other things in slots than that. Like getting 0 - x5 in free spins. I will take an x10 but I am frustrated when it goes lower than that especially if you bought it, that's more hurtful.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

Personally for me win is win i mean no matter the amount is still win but yeah sometimes you upset because the risk losing of all your money in reward of coiple of dollar or cent.

But if this screenshot comes from the slot then you should know that the win from the slot game somtime is lower frlm ypur initial bet

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Thanks for your replies guys, but I see some of you are missing my point. I never said every spin giving you 2x+ of your bet. That would be stupid. 200%+ RTP? What I meant was RTP remains the same, that's why I said "Sure, those [2x+] would appear less often", but you'll have no "wins" like 50% of your bet or so. Also I disagree that gamblers would abandon such slots because they would be seeing no wins. As a casino you can give four 2x wins within 10 spins and still be in profit, and as a customer you would not be thinking "I never win" while getting 4 wins within 10 spins.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

If we look into the most of the conditions that gives the kind of payout, the probability for winning is high, secondly the amount involved mostly are small, but if you want to increase the amount to win as well, then you will have to increase as well your stake in other to make the profit over it tangible, but most low risk bets don't even comes with bonus except for some, because they know you're taking less on risk and may likely win the bet, there is nothing to get annoyed about in this kind of games because we already know or have an idea on the possible amount to win and such is likely to come.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

Guys, do you find it annoying when you bet $0.20 and 'win' an amount much less than that?

Would you prefer if there were no such small 'wins' and only 2x+ payouts instead? Sure, those would appear less often, but at least you wouldn't feel frustrated about it.

What do you guys think? If slot creators made a slot like that, do you think it could become popular?

This is a design to make every gambler think that we'll win more than that. But eventually, we'll lose the majority of what we've got and that's why it sucks to be in that situation when you've been hitting the slots for so long and you get lesser than 2x but that's it, it's better to have something lesser than the multiplier than losing and have nothing.

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I'm sure most gamblers, especially those involved in casino games such as slots, must have experienced or even often experienced something like this where the bet amount and the results of the game are much bigger than the bet Cheesy

, I think it's not something strange when we talk about slot games, in fact I have also had results that are much worse than what you experienced OP where I bet with a bet of $ 0.80 and managed to get a scatter bonus but when I got to the last round in the bonus it turned out that the amount I got was only $ 0.01 haha of course that's very annoying. But yes, this is gambling, especially casino games, so as many people have said, when you bet, especially in casino games, never put too much hope because in the end it will only make you feel disappointed.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2025, 05:49:44 AM

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I don't mind it personally? I mean it entices the players by often showing that "win" pop-up, regardless of the amount so it's understandable why game providers keep it. Otherwise, there'd be waaay more losses shown and would cause people to quit. At least this kind of thing keeps the dopamine running. Personally don't give a crap since I'd like to think I'm not influenced by dopamine but would probably quit if it was removed since I AM influenced by dopamine lol.

I mean we already can't beat the edge anyway, might as well let the people enjoy their small wins.

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