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Topic: Slush and his relation to DDoS attackers (Read 4963 times)

donator
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Interesting.
October 28, 2011, 12:37:00 AM
#50
They wanted to be noticed so that they could also get into the bandwagon, obviously.
Next time, keep an eye on the forums.
legendary
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Death to enemies!
October 27, 2011, 09:24:09 PM
#49
Linode VPS simply died when attack started
Man, that's one heck of a nurse!
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 08:44:32 PM
#48
Linode VPS simply died when attack started, so I had no chance to dump a single byte. However I think new server will be capable to dump at least something (before admin realize there's attack and null-route that IP :-) ), so maybe then...
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 08:40:14 PM
#47
It's OK, I already found more interesting pastime than trying to figure out who is campaining against pools. The raw network dump, even few MB would be the best to help determine what bnet software is causing that, if you don't mind some accidential password in plaintext getting into my hands. the LOIC, Zeus, DK, they all have some characteristics that set them apart. Some more capable of them are limited to few persons controlling them.
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 08:25:39 PM
#46
I was told that the attack is syn flood and after that I got no reply.

I don't have more info than I provided you. Linode don't collect any useful information, they're absolutely not prepared for such attacks (everything they can do is null-route IP). I'm even not sure it was SYN flood, it's only my guess because I had SYN flood attacks (but less intensive) before. And sorry for no response, many people asked me to similar things in PM and I probably skipped it.
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 08:14:36 PM
#45
Speaking of scamcoins or namecoins, the Polmine also started to mine namecoins without user approval. One nice day my workers were switched from pure Bitcoin to Bitcoin+Scamcoin.

And yeah, the DDoS! I contacted Slush to figure out more about the ddos, but the conversation was short. I was interested in type of DDoS to sort out who and more important why is ddosing the pools. I was told that the attack is syn flood and after that I got no reply.
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 07:22:57 PM
#44
Around 5% of population is mentally retarted. Please don't waste your valuable time for responses to somebody with irrational arguments. Stop feed the troll.
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 06:35:38 PM
#43
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 06:24:25 PM
#42


Really you see nothing wrong in the way he did it screwing over everyone else who as I have said did it in the open allowing everyone a fair chance to do the merged. Well all you slush ass kissers can continue on your merry way then till the next time he pulls something underhanded then you can kiss it some more.. You know the only benefit that those of us who supported the merged mining had was the extra BTC we could make from the NMC and like the little scumbag he is he schemed them up for his pool and his benefit screwing us over. We never had the chance to mine at that big pool and get any of that coin as we were never informed the scam was on until people started asking what the hell is going on here.

Do people need to inform you first before they turn on new powerful rigs?  Do people need to inform you first before they start undercutting or out performing the competition?
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October 27, 2011, 03:11:13 PM
#41
No that would mean he was lying about how hard it was to setup as he already had it done, totally eliminating the excuse he and others use for having done it in the dark without anyone's knowledge when he was doing it on the real chain.

This starts to become boring... Linking the relevant information for you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.566146

Yes, it was tested. Yes the binaries were ready at this time. Yes we already mined a bunch on testnet. BTC testnet had difficulty of about 500 something and NMC testnet difficulty was about 5 something. But no one has done merged mining on production net before NMC block 19500. It was impossible. Even if he would have done it his NMC would have been invalidated or ophaned. Furthermore no one had tested merged mining on a 2 THash/s pool infrastructure optimized for only one blockchain. If you have an optimized server it's not like installing an additional APP and there we go: "Merged mining is ready!". You have to recalibrate and rebalance your whole infrastructure.

Honestly. I think most guys are not here to understand what really happened but want to spin some weird conspiracy theory. For that reason I'll unsubscribe this thread. Bye  Kiss

Edit: Yeah sorry. I messed this up. It's late. Merged mining started on block 19200. Perhaps I should keep subscribed to that thread to see which spin it gets due to me revoking different information  Grin
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October 27, 2011, 02:52:38 PM
#40
Wait... how was Slush doing merged mining prior to the official MM block?  I thought the block chain wouldn't accept MM blocks prior to 24000 or whatever the block number was?

We were eager to test merged mining and thus set starting block number on testnet to zero  Grin (http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1555#p1555)

Well so what if he was mining coins on NMC Testnet.  Do those have value or something? 

Sorry, I don't get the picture. We were testing merged mining on different smaller setups on testnet. Slush for example supported testing with having his rigs mining on masterpool alpha.However AFAIK no one paid out testnet coins (well masterpool alpha did, but there was no real demand) merged mining started on block 19500. NMC community agreed on starting earlier after the hashing power on NMC blockchain faded from day to day. AFAIK slush even started some time after merged mining started on non-testnet as there were scalability issues with mm proxy.
legendary
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October 27, 2011, 02:40:36 PM
#39
Wait... how was Slush doing merged mining prior to the official MM block?  I thought the block chain wouldn't accept MM blocks prior to 24000 or whatever the block number was?

We were eager to test merged mining and thus set starting block number on testnet to zero  Grin (http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1555#p1555)

Well so what if he was mining coins on NMC Testnet.  Do those have value or something? 
sr. member
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October 27, 2011, 02:32:19 PM
#38
I am suggesting it should have been PUBLICLY announced before slush started like everyone else had the decency to do you guys can keep on defending his scumbag behaviour all you want, I'm not giving him a pass on the scam he pulled off.

Man, it just doesn't make any sense to me how this dude can me so heated over so little.  From my point of view, there was no scam. Everyone got what they deserved.  And there was no harm done.  The price of nmc actually went up a penny or two in the time between Slush announcing the change and the time when all the nmc were released.  So nobody can claim that they lost money.  And all you had to do to be in on the saved nmc was enter in a wallett address before accounting went live.  Not really hard to do...

Seems to me like there's probably some other reasons for bashing that aren't being made public, or maybe he just likes the entertainment value?

Him and a few others have hardon's for slush is all.  Just look at their post history, they troll just for the lawl's/reactions.
hero member
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October 27, 2011, 02:28:55 PM
#37
I am suggesting it should have been PUBLICLY announced before slush started like everyone else had the decency to do you guys can keep on defending his scumbag behaviour all you want, I'm not giving him a pass on the scam he pulled off.

Man, it just doesn't make any sense to me how this dude can me so heated over so little.  From my point of view, there was no scam. Everyone got what they deserved.  And there was no harm done.  The price of nmc actually went up a penny or two in the time between Slush announcing the change and the time when all the nmc were released.  So nobody can claim that they lost money.  And all you had to do to be in on the saved nmc was enter in a wallett address before accounting went live.  Not really hard to do...

Seems to me like there's probably some other reasons for bashing that aren't being made public, or maybe he just likes the entertainment value?
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October 27, 2011, 02:22:54 PM
#36
We should have a forum just for trolling (I realize there already may be one, and if so I'm glad I don't know about it yet).  This thread would fit nicely there...

You know a forum is nice when it has a "Flames" section with no posts in it https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/forum/43-flames/

Don't tempt me.

And don't think I have nothing to flame about...I....I have some of  Bruce's old posts from Dec 2010 on PCWorld.com

http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/213230/could_the_wikileaks_scandal_lead_to_new_virtual_currency.html

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October 27, 2011, 02:19:18 PM
#35
We should have a forum just for trolling (I realize there already may be one, and if so I'm glad I don't know about it yet).  This thread would fit nicely there...

You know a forum is nice when it has a "Flames" section with no posts in it https://bitcoin.org.uk/forums/forum/43-flames/
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October 27, 2011, 02:12:01 PM
#34
Wait... how was Slush doing merged mining prior to the official MM block?  I thought the block chain wouldn't accept MM blocks prior to 24000 or whatever the block number was?

We were eager to test merged mining and thus set starting block number on testnet to zero  Grin (http://dot-bit.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1555#p1555)
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October 27, 2011, 02:09:39 PM
#33
If I was a Namecoin miner prior to Merged Mining, your name would be on top of my SHIT LIST.......but then again, I don't need to be a NMC miner for that, do I ?

 Grin Now I undestand. You just didn't get the whole picture. Please try to read dot-bit forum at first and understand the motivation of merged mining. Just one hint: No namecoin user which was really interested in NMC has a problem with slush mining at 2THash/s. It's quite the contrary. It was intended to get as much pools on board as possible to overcome the problem with way too less hashing power on the blockchain. We were even afraid of not getting enough hashing power. Thankfully slush helped out with this problem. Thus everybody following the posts on NMC forum did know, what was going to happen.

So you guys could just not be bothered telling the rest of us what was going on then. Screwing over the smaller pools and their users who were trying to help you out was part of the plan. Well let me thank you all for your generosity and kindness in this episode then be sure to call when/if you need it again we will be right there for ya.

Mhmm, so you are suggesting we should have started threads discussing the implications of merged mining two month before starting like: BTC/NMC merged mining available for testing (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/btcnmc-merged-mining-available-for-testing-29074)?

or should have offered a testing pool at least one and a half month before starting like: [ALPHA.masterpool.eu] Merged Mining Test Pool - TESTNET - BTC & NMC (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.416091)?

Try to find the error  Wink

legendary
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October 27, 2011, 01:57:25 PM
#32
Wait... how was Slush doing merged mining prior to the official MM block?  I thought the block chain wouldn't accept MM blocks prior to 24000 or whatever the block number was?
sr. member
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October 27, 2011, 09:48:25 AM
#31
If I was a Namecoin miner prior to Merged Mining, your name would be on top of my SHIT LIST.......but then again, I don't need to be a NMC miner for that, do I ?

 Grin Now I undestand. You just didn't get the whole picture. Please try to read dot-bit forum at first and understand the motivation of merged mining. Just one hint: No namecoin user which was really interested in NMC has a problem with slush mining at 2THash/s. It's quite the contrary. It was intended to get as much pools on board as possible to overcome the problem with way too less hashing power on the blockchain. We were even afraid of not getting enough hashing power. Thankfully slush helped out with this problem. Thus everybody following the posts on NMC forum did know, what was going to happen.

Exactly.
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