Maybe this will make things for the side of moderators and hunters of merit abuser. Imagine, if a user will make 5-10 newbies per week and give some merits to the main account every time there is a smerit collected in faucet. It will become easy for them to manipulate the system.
OP`s suggestion is helpful for the side of users who are dedicated in giving merits to the useful post but on the other hand, it may be a problem to those who are looking for the order of this forum.
If ever this suggestion may push, I suggest to have a limit for merit earners. Just like:
Newbie - will never get any smerit
Jr member - 0.1 smerit
Member - 0.5 smerit
something like that.
But for me, current condition of the merit system is the best right now. No need for modifications, if you want smerits then do not depends in faucet rather make also quality post.
Topic: sMerit faucet, maybe? - page 2. (Read 438 times)
My request is simple, can we (owners of less than 0x smerits) claim 1-2 (s)merit per week for example to give it as a reward to good posters?
No. The merit sources are getting their sMerits replenished and that's all.
You can apply for merit source and if you'll be considered worthy and accepted, you'll have plenty of sMerits afterwards.
Replenishing everybody faces high risk of abuses, hence creating more problems than solving.
Have you considered applying for merit source? Theymos selects who gets a smerit faucet, keeping some form of oversight limits abuse.
The limited "faucet" I suggested could be restricted to specific ranks (full members and above for example).
That would be abused, perhaps faucet for users who earned more than x amount of merits (1000 or so)?Maybe it wouldn't be such a bad idea to implement some kind of faucet for merit sources who often don't have smerit.
I understand your frustration that you can't reward a good and useful post with merit, but the idea of faucet has very little or maybe no chance. The system is designed to allow the distribution of merits in only two ways - to be a merit source or to be rewarded with merits for your posts with ratio 1 merit/0.5 sMerits to your account.
The sMerit allocation system through faucet would certainly activate a lot of sleeping accounts that would see this as an opportunity to reward their alt accounts - or to put such sMerit on the black market. It's just my opinion, which isn't worth much - in the end it's all in the hands of the admin who makes decisions about things like this.
The sMerit allocation system through faucet would certainly activate a lot of sleeping accounts that would see this as an opportunity to reward their alt accounts - or to put such sMerit on the black market. It's just my opinion, which isn't worth much - in the end it's all in the hands of the admin who makes decisions about things like this.
Sounds nice!
I think this can be a better model than having merit sources. Just faucet isn't a good idea but if there is something like this: Once user A spend smerits, didn't receive new one and now has 0 on balance, he/she will automatically receive 2 smerit. But if his balance becomes 0 again during 7 days from receive, he won't get anything for 7 days. If his/her balance is higher than zero, he/she won't receive any smerit. Automatic top up happens once user reaches 0 smerit and 2 smerit is the max that he/she can get automatically from faucet.
I think this can be a better model than having merit sources. Just faucet isn't a good idea but if there is something like this: Once user A spend smerits, didn't receive new one and now has 0 on balance, he/she will automatically receive 2 smerit. But if his balance becomes 0 again during 7 days from receive, he won't get anything for 7 days. If his/her balance is higher than zero, he/she won't receive any smerit. Automatic top up happens once user reaches 0 smerit and 2 smerit is the max that he/she can get automatically from faucet.
One of the criteria for becoming a merit source is being a somewhat established member, an smerits faucet would give smerits to lots of members who do not meet that criteria and It would be very difficult to check every member above a certain rank for merit abuse, and we would likely see a lot of them waking up to sell off their weekly smerits.
Theymos has hinted that he doesn't want to encourage members to check merit abuse and thats a grey area a transactions involving one or two merits would rarely pass for abuse as quality is subjective.
If a member is/was busted abusing the merit system then he will be unable to access it...
This would put all merit transaction under scrutiny and discourage some members from sending them.Theymos has hinted that he doesn't want to encourage members to check merit abuse and thats a grey area a transactions involving one or two merits would rarely pass for abuse as quality is subjective.
I don't support it. Because if there is faucet merit, it will allow shitposters rank up again. With faucet merits, their rank up process will keep going and only be slower when there was no merit system.
Claiming free smerits will probably cause smerit abuse.
Merit sources have done their works very good. Help good posters rank up and keep shitposters stuck at low ranks. That's fine and nothing should be changed.
Claiming free smerits will probably cause smerit abuse.
Merit sources have done their works very good. Help good posters rank up and keep shitposters stuck at low ranks. That's fine and nothing should be changed.
No that will be the answer probably and the first reflex of most members, but I will share my thoughts anyway.
It doesn't happens frequently but sometimes I want to give 1 merit to someone helping me or for a quite good helpful post but since "I" (many) am under the merit poverty line, I simply cannot.
My request is simple, can we (owners of less than 0x smerits) claim 1-2 (s)merit per week for example to give it as a reward to good posters?
I will not deny the efforts of merit sources but it isn't that ideal too. Such thing will be noticeable once they are off from that circle and if the rewarded smerits isn't exchanged between them in a legit way obviously (small size to avoid unnecessary discussions about this).
Having a topic or an additional button to alert sources about a good post aren't that good ideas since it will be flooded and spammed.
The limited "faucet" I suggested could be restricted to specific ranks (full members and above for example). If a member is/was busted abusing the merit system then he will be unable to access it...
Feel free to share your ideas. I am asking for a way to help others and not begging here. Thanks for understanding and reading this
It doesn't happens frequently but sometimes I want to give 1 merit to someone helping me or for a quite good helpful post but since "I" (many) am under the merit poverty line, I simply cannot.
My request is simple, can we (owners of less than 0x smerits) claim 1-2 (s)merit per week for example to give it as a reward to good posters?
I will not deny the efforts of merit sources but it isn't that ideal too. Such thing will be noticeable once they are off from that circle and if the rewarded smerits isn't exchanged between them in a legit way obviously (small size to avoid unnecessary discussions about this).
Having a topic or an additional button to alert sources about a good post aren't that good ideas since it will be flooded and spammed.
The limited "faucet" I suggested could be restricted to specific ranks (full members and above for example). If a member is/was busted abusing the merit system then he will be unable to access it...
Feel free to share your ideas. I am asking for a way to help others and not begging here. Thanks for understanding and reading this
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