So a bitcoin scam has been getting a lot of publicity in the Philippines lately - page 3.

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I don't think it's possible to report this to econsumer.gov unless you were a victim since they ask for precise information about
your interactions with them, how much you lost, etc.

This is a generic message that I sent to the filipino agencies:

Also, you all should leave negative reviews of these sites at the following places:

sitejabber: Left a review here https://www.sitejabber.com/reviews/the-bitcoinrevolution.com#1, this site has been a little finicky for me so if my review suddenly dissapears they might have deleted it
foxyrating: they have high requirements for leaving reviews so I couldn't post there, can someone here please leave a negative review there?
beermoneyforum: Left a post here https://www.beermoneyforum.com/threads/the-bitcoinrevolution-com-reviews-scam-or-legit.66836/, make sure you put it in the "E-currency exchange reviews" section.
trustpilot: left a review here: https://www.trustpilot.com/review/the-bitcoinrevolution.com, just type in the url of each website to write a review for it, but don't leave duplicate review messages or they might be removed.

We must defend bitcoin and cryptocurrencies in general from all internal and external threats like this one.

Quote from: rosezionjohn on January 31, 2020, 07:28:28 AM

Please add these scam sites also.

Code:

https://revolution-bitcoin.net
https://www.thebitcoinrevolution.org
https://btc-revolution.org/login

I wish I saw these earlier because I didn't include these in my report to the government agencies. Sad

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Quote from: mk4 on January 29, 2020, 10:42:21 PM

Sites of this scam I've found:

Code:

https://the-bitcoinrevolution.com/
https://bitcoinrevolution.cloud/
https://securelyriches.com/bitcoin-revolutuion
https://thesecuredoffer.org/bitcoinrevolution-autopass/
https://secured4u.net/bitcoinrevolution-auto/
https://bitcoin-revolution.site/

Even just reporting these sites to Google just to get the warning message when people open these scam sites could be a big help and could hopefully make people think twice: https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_general/

Some places to report if you have the time:

Informative thanks to this!
I think a lot of Filipinos still don't have a lot of knowledge to this kind of things or cryptocurrency for most of the time this celebrities like Tito Boy from the Philippines are very influential so most of the scammers use them to have a lot of victims in scamming, but Tito boy explained this to the people that he is not endorsing this cryptocurrency and bitcoin. But as we know if you invest in bitcoin or cryptocurrency basically scammer cannot touch your investment since you are just investing in bitcoin which is secure like for example you put it in a bitcoin wallet like coins.ph. It is impossible to hack it unless they have specific websites that they are promoting.

I think a lot of Filipinos are prone to scam because a lot of people are not exposed to technology and they don't know about this cryptocurrency for a lot of people they don't have any idea when it comes to digital currency.
What we could do is spread and influence them to this kind of technology so that they are aware of this, if they are aware of bitcoin it could minimize the bad image of bitcoin to the people and avoid scams that are happening.

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Good on him for coming out. The guy maybe has a million of viewers that were informed about this scam. Given the circumstances, it's probably the most efficient and effective approach. I visited the Philippine SEC website to check if there's already an advisory against this bitcoin revolution but I couldn't see any unfortunately. I don't know how long it would take for them to investigate after the reports and were submitted. I guess I'll just add one more report to their list and hope that they act faster.

I'm also done reporting all six in the OP. Google is kinda slow also in taking down these fraudulent websites.

Please add these scam sites also.

Code:

https://revolution-bitcoin.net
https://www.thebitcoinrevolution.org
https://btc-revolution.org/login

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Quote from: xSkylarx on January 30, 2020, 11:02:04 PM

It's also fault of the scam victims in the Philippines because some of them are gullible that they believe on those investments that they will earn big amount in just a short span of time. They don't research properly what they are investing and only focused on the promised return

No one said it wasn't their fault though. Of course it's mostly on their side due to their greed and lack of knowledge. But it wouldn't hurt to spread awareness and to report these sites to bring them down to reduce the damage though.

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Quote from: awik p on January 30, 2020, 10:45:47 PM

Quote from: xiboothrezi on January 30, 2020, 03:30:58 PM

This is very dangerous, fraudsters involve the names of influential people and that includes defamation, right? luckily there was clarification soon. Lay people will definitely be easily influenced by the Ponzi scheme which is manipulated with language that seems beneficial, even though it leads to fraud and the benefits gained are not much. Especially the profit-oriented newbie will surely be easily affected by huge rewards without learning what is behind them, so let's be more concerned with educating ourselves and those around us to avoid being harmed.
Thank you OP for the information, hopefully, many members make reports so that the fraudster cannot act anymore.

right, this is especially for beginners who don't understand correctly and they think making money here is easy. so they became the target of scamer and finally the new investors regretted, because it was not in accordance with their expectations, and finally they spread negative news about crypto

It's also fault of the scam victims in the Philippines because some of them are gullible that they believe on those investments that they will earn big amount in just a short span of time. They don't research properly what they are investing and only focused on the promised return

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Quote from: xiboothrezi on January 30, 2020, 03:30:58 PM

This is very dangerous, fraudsters involve the names of influential people and that includes defamation, right? luckily there was clarification soon. Lay people will definitely be easily influenced by the Ponzi scheme which is manipulated with language that seems beneficial, even though it leads to fraud and the benefits gained are not much. Especially the profit-oriented newbie will surely be easily affected by huge rewards without learning what is behind them, so let's be more concerned with educating ourselves and those around us to avoid being harmed.
Thank you OP for the information, hopefully, many members make reports so that the fraudster cannot act anymore.

right, this is especially for beginners who don't understand correctly and they think making money here is easy. so they became the target of scamer and finally the new investors regretted, because it was not in accordance with their expectations, and finally they spread negative news about crypto

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 30, 2020, 12:54:21 PM

There isn't really much you can do about it, even spreading awareness probably won't dent it.

Almost everyone on Bitcointalk has some basic to moderate understanding of scams, so there's little point warning us... Spread it to the luddites instead.

If you actually read my topic you'd understand that I didn't even make this post mainly to spread awareness to the Bitcointalk people. I made this post to ask for help to hopefully bring these sites down to reduce the potential damage. I even provided links to report these sites, if you haven't noticed.

Try reading the topic first before making comments next time.

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This is very dangerous, fraudsters involve the names of influential people and that includes defamation, right? luckily there was clarification soon. Lay people will definitely be easily influenced by the Ponzi scheme which is manipulated with language that seems beneficial, even though it leads to fraud and the benefits gained are not much. Especially the profit-oriented newbie will surely be easily affected by huge rewards without learning what is behind them, so let's be more concerned with educating ourselves and those around us to avoid being harmed.
Thank you OP for the information, hopefully, many members make reports so that the fraudster cannot act anymore.

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Quote from: Docnaster on January 30, 2020, 12:54:21 PM

Almost everyone on Bitcointalk has some basic to moderate understanding of scams, so there's little point warning us...

Not really. I would have a look into the altcoin section of this forum, it's filled with get rich quick noobs who blindly put their money into scams like this. There is no shortage of victims with how people are here only to chase profits.

Even if OP can prevent only one person from losing money this thread is already worth it. We should help each other expose scams whenever we can because at one point we were in the same position as the current victims are.

We are in this together as community and should help other people where possible because no one deserves to lose money, and the scammers certainly don't deserve the money they steal from people.

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This is a sad for me because many bad people use the name of bitcoin and popular personalities for their personal interest. And it has a huge impact on my country because many people are aware of the false news that bitcoin is a scam and they are afraid to invest in it because they think it is an investment website where there is a high risk of scam. Hopefully the media in our country will also be fair in the news so that people will know that bitcoin is only used by scammers, And hopefully the media will also announce the huge help that bitcoin and the crypto currency provide! Similar to the Binance Charity which has helped many people today, From the "corona virus" "bush fire in Australia"

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This is just an adaptation of the common [insert country name] method, such as the Canada Method, Brit Method etc, all promising some kind of automatic profit solution.

These almost always target those that are very new to the space and have limited experience with risk/reward, hence have no idea how likely such a thing is. There isn't really much you can do about it, even spreading awareness probably won't dent it.

Almost everyone on Bitcointalk has some basic to moderate understanding of scams, so there's little point warning us... Spread it to the luddites instead.

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Quote from: posi on January 30, 2020, 11:34:29 AM

Thanks for the information and i hope the newbies will be wise enough to listen to this warning. Nevertheless, I'm not surprised about this kind of scam because crypto scammer always use miscellaneous of strategy to scam crypto enthusiast when bitcoin halving is moving toward.

We should not always believe on what we read and what we see on our social media accounts. It is the way of scammers to fool people and persuade them, they use some false information that the artists are using cryptocurrency. That's an example, but we're thankful because he cleared it out that he is not involved in any cryptocurrency. At least we know the truth about those accusations and misinformation because it is not helpful in the crypto world to use a certain popular people. Scammers should stop because beginners are the one whose always a victim of this people, scamming is one of the most common problem in cryptocurrency. We are the one who can handle and avoid it, but before that, we should be mindful of the surroundings, most especially in our social media accounts. Don't trust easily and we should improve the security of our accounts.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 30, 2020, 07:30:02 AM

That is why I considered schools as a scam. Why? Because they don't teach their students anything about financial literacy.

I would definitely not go that far--schools shouldn't and can't teach common sense that everyone should have, nor can they teach people not to be greedy or fearful, and those are the emotions that scammers play upon.

Quote from: buwaytress on January 30, 2020, 08:21:39 AM

Used to be with beenz, then paypal, then e-gold, and now bitcoin.

Lol. I'm sure a lot of people here won't know what the hell you're talking about, but I remember beenz. And Flooz with Whoopee Goldberg endorsing it, which is what I thought bitcoin like was at first before I realized it's decentralized.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 29, 2020, 10:42:21 PM

And we need your help.

These scammers have been spreading fake news about certain big names from the Philippines saying that these people are endorsing these "trading bots" to earn money. The scam has gained too much publicity that one of these big names has to publicly announce on television(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mFtbT1j4WnQ) that he doesn't endorse this scam.

Screenshot courtesy of plvbob0070: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/boy-abundas-statement-about-cryptocurrency-5219968

Yes, I know, it's a typical scam right? Why overreact? But unfortunately, a good number(or dare I say most) of filipinos are completely unaware on what ponzi schemes and other scams are, so the best thing we could possibly do is to possibly get these sites off the web to hopefully significantly decrease the potential damage that it can do to the masses.

Sites of this scam I've found:

Code:

https://the-bitcoinrevolution.com/
https://bitcoinrevolution.cloud/
https://securelyriches.com/bitcoin-revolutuion
https://thesecuredoffer.org/bitcoinrevolution-autopass/
https://secured4u.net/bitcoinrevolution-auto/
https://bitcoin-revolution.site/

Even just reporting these sites to Google just to get the warning message when people open these scam sites could be a big help and could hopefully make people think twice: https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_general/

Some places to report if you have the time:

Thanks!

That is why the first thing to have aside from money when investing is knowledge. People don't learn anymore, they want to take risk without knowing what they engaging into. Filipinos are like this, easy to be scammed over and over again. They easily believe sugar coated words especially when there are celebrity involved, but not knowing if it was legit or not.

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Thanks for the information and i hope the newbies will be wise enough to listen to this warning. Nevertheless, I'm not surprised about this kind of scam because crypto scammer always use miscellaneous of strategy to scam crypto enthusiast when bitcoin halving is moving toward.

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Well, it's hard to believe that people are still being victimized by these schemes. I find it really disappointing since the people who would have heard about cryptocurrencies are the new era people who are using the internet well. They should have found out that these are scams they must avoid. But my expectations are wrong. In the Philippines, they have the impression of the Bitcoin as total scam since stupid people used Bitcoin for their Ponzi schemes. Bitcoin was publicly famous with this scheme's I mentioned, --and Filipinos believe in media. And this is unstoppable. The only thing to avoid this is not to become of the victim. Indeed, perhaps this makes sense, start within ourselves and then the people will follow.

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Quote from: airdnasxela on January 30, 2020, 08:41:48 AM

In general, there's a lot of scammer in the Philippines. Filipinos are taking advantage of the weakness of other Filipinos as well. Filipinos easily believe on what they are seeing without doing further research that's why there's a lot of fake news spreading in my country. And one of that is this kind of scam. When it comes to earning money, they believe almost everything. And it's the reason why they are using famous names to make it more believable for others.

There's a lot of scams worldwide in general, not only in the Philippines. It's just that most filipinos are easily deceived(compared to most other demographics) due to reasons like poverty(hence greed), lack of financial and investing knowledge, lack of research(and reading comprehension), and a few others. It's the same reasons why the Philippines is one of the breeding grounds of MLM schemes.

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In general, there's a lot of scammer in the Philippines. Filipinos are taking advantage of the weakness of other Filipinos as well. Filipinos easily believe on what they are seeing without doing further research that's why there's a lot of fake news spreading in my country. And one of that is this kind of scam. When it comes to earning money, they believe almost everything. And it's the reason why they are using famous names to make it more believable for others.

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Áctually, there's a huge, huge story here waiting for some journalist to properly uncover. For the past 25 years, the same gangs in Southeast Asia have been operating HYIPs. Used to be quite simple too, not much coding involved, but things really picked up when digital money hit the net in the late 90s.

Saw it myself, the rise of 15% a day for 15 days, etc etc. Modus operandi always the same, and in Southeast Asia like Malaysia and PH they use all these influencers (fake or not) to build up these huge pyramids for months.

Used to be with beenz, then paypal, then e-gold, and now bitcoin.

It's not the currency, it's the game.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 29, 2020, 10:42:21 PM

Yes, I know, it's a typical scam right? Why overreact? But unfortunately, a good number(or dare I say most) of filipinos are completely unaware on what ponzi schemes and other scams are, so the best thing we could possibly do is to possibly get these sites off the web to hopefully significantly decrease the potential damage that it can do to the masses.

That is why I considered schools as a scam. Why? Because they don't teach their students anything about financial literacy.

If people in our country have some knowledge regarding financial things and things like this scams and schemes then there will be lesser people that are got scammed. Unfortunately, we can't prevent them being scammed until they will not experience it.

Taking down these sites can decrease it but creating a site right now is very easy. They can just buy a domain and then use it for scamming again. The best thing to do right now is to spread information regarding these things.

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