Topic: So, are all the previous ETH haters now ETH(ETC) lovers??? - page 3. (Read 3044 times)

If ETC is criminal because it didn't fork over 1 (one) theft, is ETH going to become also a criminal coin when it will not fork over the next theft, or will it fork over the next theft ?  Or will there be no theft any more, and was this the only, sole, single theft that ever will happen on the ETH chain ?

What's your vision on that ?  Should BTC have forked over the 50 or more spectacular thefts it has known or not and is it a criminals' coin or not ?

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BULLSHIT it is not "good tech"

And it's pointed out out WHY millions of times so how the hell did you not see it ?
Blind or are you being deceitful ?

And this goes for fraud boy too..

Good tech ? that is rich LOL
Thanks for the laugh i needed that today hahhahaha  

It was hacked exploited for fuck sake's  
Then it was a lazy attempt an an ICO scam.

Did they TRY and make something revolutionary with it's launch ?
Hell nooooo...
All they did was hobble some gimmick scheme idea together with the same old classic ICO.

Good tech would be actually improving over the concept of an ICO.
Did they try ? fuck no.
All they did was side step all that by launching an ICO then tacking on Mining later.
Then they did what people always do with ICO's.. they exploited the living fucking shit out of it
..in 2014 on Launch day.
Then paid each other a small fortune in coins.

Which was WORSE than bitching about a coin having a 2% premine.
Because the 2% coin would actually have to fulfill it's intended purpose right at launch.
Where ETH never did have to nor any other ICO.. they can spew verbal diarrhea an keep their hand out ..forever.

"Good Tech" ?
For what ?
All of you here would not shut up about "APP's"
Then you all at once dropped that for some mysterious reason
then reinforced the words "smart contract" for some weird reason.
Almost like your leader ordered you too ROFL

"Good Tech" ?
What smart contracts ? Like DAO ? and the NOW fork drama.. yeah that was a GREEEEEAT idea  
And what was DAO ?
A Pyramid scheme built within another Pyramid Scheme.. FOR PROFIT !

But ok then what about the other "smart contracts" ?
What about them ?
I never heard anyone ever talk about them yet that *IS* the intended purpose now isn't it ?
What *DO* we hear about non stop ? Profits on centralized exchanges.
So what does that ell us about the actual real world use of this "Good Tech" ?
It's sooooooooo "GOOD" ..it's not even used HHAHHAHAHAHHA  

Gimmme a fucking break.
The launch had a million signs that it was setup for a massive profit scheme.
So the intention is stained right there ..right from the start of ETH.
Reinfocred by the Pump / Manipulation bullshit in 2016 that sealed the deal on bad intent.
Otherwise i would have said to you all here & now that..
Maybe the original dev's intention was honest but it ended up not being "used" as intended
and instead diverted into nothing but a "Fuel Tokens" money making thing.
Which would give Butters plausible deniability to play dumb.. but he knew damn well how it would play out.
Which is why he was caught on launch day with his team paying them selves millions in coins
they later dumped in 2016 on you all.

The "Tech" is a fucking failure.
If you make a new revolutionary Bicycle that is say electric powered but..
still has pedals on it to manually pedal around and NOBODY ever uses the electrical part.
Then the tech is a god damn failure.

And what is the fucking point with ETH ?
A currency ? ..noooope
If it was wouldn't it have to be used as such ?
And if it is not then what is it then ?
What would you HAVE to call it ?
A digital profit token for centralized exchanges ?
Sounds to me a lot like a Digital Pyramid Scheme token to me.

Yes. It is a good tech and without the hard fork roll back and tweaking of transactions. The Ethereum fork is a chain that is corrupted by a small group of people that have lost their principles and are now viewed by the community as frauds. Vitalik's career in crypto is now destroyed. He is now a joke in the eyes of his peers. He is not cypherpunk material. He is just another money seeking individual now in the eyes of the community.

They only fudded on ETH because they missed the train. Now that they've filled their bags with cheap criminal ETC coins they finally admit that ETH is a gud tech.

Poor Bitcoin bagholders. I understand them, putting their mouths where money is. They hope for ETH death, it's their only exit.

P.S. Yes, I'm sick and tired of Bitcoin scalability drama. Bitcoin community showed dissonance with miners, that didn't happen in Ethereum's case. For now.

Indeed. Real bitcoiners love core devs cause they know they will not fuck with the immutability of the blockchain. This factor was not found in Vitalik. Vitalik is just an immature kid, intelligent yes, but very immature. This bailout thing has caused the chain to spawn a new coin that they were not expecting: ETC. ETC is actually the real pre-bailout Ethereum. Bitcoiners pay respect to ETC supports for staying true to the definition of decentralized immutable smart contracts, and that definition includes letting the DAO fall without disturbing the time/space of the blockchain, and they have played with fire by doing a rollback. Remember kids, never fuck around with time/space or you will pay for it. Let things develop. This is the ETC approach. No bailout and rollback for ETC.

I feel theajority of us that would be branded 'ETH haters' are honestly indifferent about the coin. Most of us reacted to the hype and bullshit that came pouring in, and tried to steer the weaker sheep away from the wolves. ETC is Ethereum, without all the branding and filigree. That, I can appreciate. The fact that it feeds my inner troll to invest in an asset counter to ETH (inversely related) is just icing on my dark hearted cake.

[sorry to be harsh but I have to say this] take your heads out of your asses, there is no Love or Hate ethereum. it is as it has always been about the money. even a newbie looking at the charts can see the potential and also the huge risk that etherum has brought to us to make money.

all the support (love) or deny (hate) topics that you see for either eth or ethc or for both has one purpose and that is contributing to the pump. so far from start of this rally ethc has gone up 400% and dropped down again.

who is to say the same people behind the ethereum are not pumping classic? don't they love $$$

well spoken! I totally agree.

Absolutely agree with that.
In terms of alts it's all about the money.Short it, pump and dump it to increase your bitcoin stash or to make some profits in fiat.
Sure some Bitcoin maximalists ight take advantage of this whole Ethereum debacle as well to make Vitalik and Brian Shitstrong feel even more pissed.And guess what? They deserve it!!

What??? It's no more immutable now than it was before. If our DAO thief and a few guys start up another foundation and miners start to give them the same level of respect that the ETH miners gave the Ether Foundation and one day things don't go their way then ETH(ETC) could also potentially be forked somewhere down the road. What if there's a transaction issue like what we're seeing with BTC?

What makes you claim that forking ETH(ETC) is impossible?? Isn't that the same as Slock.it dudes claiming that The DAO funds are secure??? What if our famous thief decides to show you just how great he is and forks it all by himself using this 'immutable' code.... again!



It was always about the BTC and $. I'm not sure about the PnD statement (not everybody is a trader) but people saw it as a way to become like old school bitcoiners with 1000's of expensive little tokens.

And that's why imo lots are jumping on ETH(ETC). They are hoping to see it at $20 like ETH got to. They want profit! ETH2 has touched down. They're hoping it's 'Destination Moon' and not Destination Gobi' next

If you think etc is acctually what eth should be, are you going to support the ETC and buy it or mine it?

Yeah, traders don't love the coin itself. They love the fluctuation of the price which gives them opportunity to gain profit from it. They are supporting he coin when they got profit from it. When sudden drop of coin occur and their profit looses, they make accusations to the coin. It is funny how Ironic to those who just go with the flow. The dev's are doing great jobs to make the coin better but it is not appreciated.

Many ppl didnt like hf. hf happen only because vitalik, his friends and few miners were invested in dao, and wonted to get their investment back. This hf was made for all the wrong reasons.

etc is acctually what eth should be - running unstobable applications. this includes all the consequences of writing, and investing, into bugy contracts.

Agreed it's about the real desire.. BITCOIN !

I have seen nothing different with any of this post-fork shenanigans
that would make me think there is more support for Ethereum.. or variants.

End of the day ETH is ETH.

All i think is i figured it was scammy in 2014 and even more by 2016.
This all changes nothing for me..

You all wanna play around with this crap.. have at 'er ..go hard.
Don't complain when you get burned though.

..i wouldn't touch that coin with YOUR wallet guys !

This guy speaks the truth. The real intention here is to make money. The group supporting the original Ethereum classic is now looking for their opportunity to get their light in the day and make profit. But I hope they intend to build a better platform side by side with making money. That is only fair.

you are a fool if you think people ever loved ethereum.

maybe some found the project somewhat interesting at some point. or liked it at best.

but in general everybody is loving the pump and dump and the BTC and $ they are earning from the pump and dump and that is all there is to it.

i didn't hate ETH because from old ETH i was already got small profit from these coin and now new ETH {ETC} has becomes the new celebrity in cryptocurrency world because it's being popular currently and market cap also looks pretty good but for me it's all about how i got profit not more from that because if i thought i will got profit from these coin i think i would love these coin too

I thought that Ethereum will be done after the DAO hack. I was wrong. Now this situation reminds me of mythological Hydra, when you cut one of its heads another grows.
This is what ETH (ETC) is now- a hydra. What I love, however, is the way ETH team is solving problems - 'just fork it boys, and full speed ahead'!

i really love ETH especially when the rate is down LOL  because its good for margin. but i am not much like it ETC. but as long as ETC can give me profit, i will buy and sell it like other people.