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donator
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March 08, 2013, 02:48:48 AM
#29
I think we'll probably be going down for a little while yet, but only quite gradually.

Maybe.  The order book is beginning to flip around.  The number of BTCs up for sale is up over 100k and it's probably going to continue to grow as the price moves further down.  The big players have set a new direction now, and it isn't up.  It might seem gradual now, but it will accelerate.  Single digits is very realistic.

We rallied from $13 to $49, a +277% move in 2 months. It went parabolic in the end. So regardless if we believe in the long term or not, there is a significant (in may estimation: 70%) chance that we enter correction mode and do not make a new ATH in at least a month, probably 1-6 months.

The price has several target/support levels though, in descending order:

$35 first fibonacci retracement (13+.61*(49-13)) weak
$32 ATH of 2011 medium (not strong because it was not tested but just blasted through)
$31 half retracement (13+.5*(49-13)) weak
$30 round number weak-medium
$27 second fib. retracement (13+.61^2*(49-13)) medium-strong <- target/support
$26 50-dma (vol.weighted moving average) medium <- target
$25 round number weak-medium
$22 third fib. retracement (13+.61^3*(49-13)) medium-strong
$20 round number weak-medium
$15 high of 2012 medium-strong
$13 base strong

I see rather clear target in $26-$27 area. Support starts at $35 and intensifies in $32 and the target area. There is rather little support actually in the vast area between Pirate high $15 and $25. Maybe that is why many speculator aim to buy from there.

A safe bet would to start buyback already from $32. Other approaches are too risky if you plan on having BTC to sell also next year Smiley











legendary
Activity: 1722
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March 07, 2013, 06:52:24 PM
#28
Stuck between 40-45 for the past 10 hours

I want to heard the voodoo from people... what's the next move? UP or DOWN?

Yes.

What a committed answer!!!

His answer was definitive. You just didn't phrase the question correctly. Should've used an XOR, not an OR.

legendary
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Trusted Bitcoiner
March 07, 2013, 06:50:11 PM
#27
I think we'll probably be going down for a little while yet, but only quite gradually.

Maybe.  The order book is beginning to flip around.  The number of BTCs up for sale is up over 100k and it's probably going to continue to grow as the price moves further down.  The big players have set a new direction now, and it isn't up.  It might seem gradual now, but it will accelerate.  Single digits is very realistic.

single digits!  Shocked
no way
10$ is just to round a number.  Wink

if the drop continues i will be buying in a little in a few weeks, and then buy more and more as prices fall.
legendary
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March 07, 2013, 06:32:29 PM
#26
I think we'll probably be going down for a little while yet, but only quite gradually.

Maybe.  The order book is beginning to flip around.  The number of BTCs up for sale is up over 100k and it's probably going to continue to grow as the price moves further down.  The big players have set a new direction now, and it isn't up.  It might seem gradual now, but it will accelerate.  Single digits is very realistic.
legendary
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March 07, 2013, 06:24:50 PM
#25
I think we'll probably be going down for a little while yet, but only quite gradually.
member
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March 07, 2013, 05:36:56 PM
#24
If Mt. Gox can keep it's shit together, up.  It seems people stop buying when the lag hits, but people get scared about not knowing what's happening and sell to be on the safe side.  I blame Gox for bringing us below $45 again.

I agree! It was rather terrifying to watch honestly. I was seeing the buy wall disappear and the price was dropping dollars per mash of my f5 key. Fucking GOX! I think alot of people were waiting to see where it would slow down before buying back in, and the lag on top of that was causing the support to be nearly non-existent. Thank goodness for scalpers!  Roll Eyes
member
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March 07, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
#23
Stuck between 40-45 for the past 10 hours

I want to heard the voodoo from people... what's the next move? UP or DOWN?

Yes.

Omnidirectional price movement



Where are all the trolls to predict crashes and millionaires overnight when you need them?Huh

Shaving their beards under rickety bridges all over the world.
member
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March 07, 2013, 05:31:12 PM
#22
Stuck between 40-45 for the past 10 hours

I want to heard the voodoo from people... what's the next move? UP or DOWN?

Yes.

Omnidirectional price movement



I lol'd.  Cheesy
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March 07, 2013, 04:15:33 PM
#21
Right for sure. The rest is less certain.
legendary
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A Great Time to Start Something!
March 07, 2013, 04:07:59 PM
#20
Good question:
* We will be retesting the high of 49.03.
* Panicking sellers will be retesting the low of 33.30.


First one direction, then the other.  Wink



Yes, both.   Cheesy
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March 07, 2013, 03:59:03 PM
#19
we find that the USD volume trends appear very similar. If we assume, most reasonably Cheesy, that similar price trends will follow, then we can expect a rise to $400-$450 by April, followed by a 5 month decline to a hard floor of $30 (and in two years the whole thing will repeat and we will shoot to $9k!).

That's exactly what I've been thinking.

If that's going to happen, the price is going to have to start gapping wildly upwards pretty soon here.
legendary
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March 07, 2013, 03:54:40 PM
#18
we find that the USD volume trends appear very similar. If we assume, most reasonably Cheesy, that similar price trends will follow, then we can expect a rise to $400-$450 by April, followed by a 5 month decline to a hard floor of $30 (and in two years the whole thing will repeat and we will shoot to $9k!).

That's exactly what I've been thinking.
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
March 07, 2013, 02:44:03 PM
#17


I don't trade on Mt.Gox directly, so if everyone wants to move that's fine by me!

Nor I. I wasn't proposing abandoning mtgox either, just that there appears to be an opportunity for someone to take advantage of.
legendary
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Borsche
March 07, 2013, 02:42:21 PM
#16
I did move out whatever I had for trade at gox to several other exchanges. Let's see which one gets hacked first Wink
hero member
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March 07, 2013, 02:32:22 PM
#15
If Mt. Gox can keep it's shit together, up.  It seems people stop buying when the lag hits, but people get scared about not knowing what's happening and sell to be on the safe side.  I blame Gox for bringing us below $45 again.

Time for another exchange, maybe? Nothing wrong with a bit of competition and it means less chance of a single point of failure.

You may well be right. I know if I started losing control of my funds, I would be looking to get them out ASAP.

I don't trade on Mt.Gox directly, so if everyone wants to move that's fine by me!
legendary
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1RichyTrEwPYjZSeAYxeiFBNnKC9UjC5k
March 07, 2013, 02:28:54 PM
#14
If Mt. Gox can keep it's shit together, up.  It seems people stop buying when the lag hits, but people get scared about not knowing what's happening and sell to be on the safe side.  I blame Gox for bringing us below $45 again.

Time for another exchange, maybe? Nothing wrong with a bit of competition and it means less chance of a single point of failure.

You may well be right. I know if I started losing control of my funds, I would be looking to get them out ASAP.
legendary
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March 07, 2013, 02:27:50 PM
#13
If Mt. Gox can keep it's shit together, up.  It seems people stop buying when the lag hits, but people get scared about not knowing what's happening and sell to be on the safe side.  I blame Gox for bringing us below $45 again.

I haven't experienced this myself but it seems many people were complaining yesterday, so this may have some element of truth in it.
hero member
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March 07, 2013, 02:25:59 PM
#12
If Mt. Gox can keep it's shit together, up.  It seems people stop buying when the lag hits, but people get scared about not knowing what's happening and sell to be on the safe side.  I blame Gox for bringing us below $45 again.
hero member
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March 07, 2013, 02:24:15 PM
#11
Bitcoin always goes only up. It is just a matter of time-frame and patience i.e. it only depends on how long you are willing to wait.

donator
Activity: 1722
Merit: 1036
March 07, 2013, 02:11:04 PM
#10
Set sell orders at 49 and buy at 34 and just wait for all of them to fill eventually.

This is close to what I would regard sensible (absent capital gains tax, that is...)

My gut told that there should be some resistance around $32 because it was the all-time-high for 2 years. That resistance was taken decisively and the price moved up. But it is improbable to go straight up, so a breather is necessary every once in a while.

Now as the uptrend is shaken anyway, is a good chance to go revisit the area between $25-$35 and find support and stability there. As the price is still way above $40, I believe selling now and starting to buy back at $35 and less is a good idea.

My only concern is the opposite scenario. There will need to be a stop loss in place should we go above $52 or so.. to buy back the coins sold if the call was false.



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