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Topic: So Cryptsy's CEO predicted this would happen. (Read 1556 times)

hero member
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February 28, 2016, 07:08:56 PM
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He'll only get what is coming to him, may take awhile but he'll be ruined.

I hope so, but unfortunately as long as he stays in China I'm not sure anything will happen to him. BTW I'm dropping a link to the Cryptsy Scam thread because a lot of this is being discussed there:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cryptsy-stopping-withdraw-locking-accounts-without-notifying-users-class-action-1173703
vip
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What a selfish move by nettles and vernon. They used cryptsy's customers funds for their personal expenses. Vernon knew it was going to fail at some point but again didn't do anything to improve the situation. And now, after being too late to act upon the failure, they don't seem to give back people money  (wow, there's no words that describes them). KARMA will happen.

Speaking of KARMA, I want my karmacoins back! not to mention my thousands of sexcoins they stole (worth a couple bucks  Grin)


"I need to recuse myself from being present in this case because I, too, lost SexCoins on Cryptsy. I was one of the top ten holders of the coin but never spent any because I was unsure who exactly would accept them except for a Secret Service Agent, but I think we all know what happened with him."
legendary
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I have given up hope on any return of significant value from what was left in my Cryptsy account, but it would be nice to see a few former Cryptsy executives and employees wearing bright orange jumpsuits for the next 20-30 years.

Will the jumpsuits be the same shade of bright orange that Sonny Vleisides of BFL won't be wearing or is there a for-real bright orange that I'm not versed in?

Don't be such a pessimist, a guy needs to have some kind of hope there is still a smidgen of justice left in the world.
hero member
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Yes they have some bitcoins of mine too.  More than a couple of bucks.  I doubt I will ever see it again.
legendary
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..like bright metal on a sullen ground.
What a selfish move by nettles and vernon. They used cryptsy's customers funds for their personal expenses. Vernon knew it was going to fail at some point but again didn't do anything to improve the situation. And now, after being too late to act upon the failure, they don't seem to give back people money  (wow, there's no words that describes them). KARMA will happen.

Speaking of KARMA, I want my karmacoins back! not to mention my thousands of sexcoins they stole (worth a couple bucks  Grin)
hero member
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Wow that is an incredible outcome what I read all here. His personal life isn't that great anymore after he got greedy and can't control his expenses.
hero member
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According to a Florida divorce court, anyhow. What I'd like to know is how he thought Cryptsy members wouldn't be ticked... http://www.coindesk.com/court-cryptsy-ceo-predicted-exchange-failure/

Yikes - Cryptsy funds diverted to purchase 1.4million property in Florida.  So what happens next?  Is there a class action lawsuit with Cryptsy members?

He also claimed that it would dissolve due to "economic conditions" - I am not understanding what he is talking about, isn't this just poor bookkeeping?


What happens next is the lawsuit against Cryptsy has been updated to include the estranged wife of Paul Vernon. IMO this is good for Cryptsy customers, really bad for the wife.

Its stated in the divorce filings that the majority of marital assets were held in crypto currencies, which are essentially out of control of the divorce court because Vernon has fled to China. But because the wife was also a beneficiary of the 1.4 million dollar home purchased with customer funds, they believe she's liable. It means the lawsuit might be able to recoup some additional money, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

It sure seems to me that Paul Vernon had been planning this for some time. Scumbag.

He'll only get what is coming to him, may take awhile but he'll be ruined.
vip
Activity: 1428
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I have given up hope on any return of significant value from what was left in my Cryptsy account, but it would be nice to see a few former Cryptsy executives and employees wearing bright orange jumpsuits for the next 20-30 years.

Will the jumpsuits be the same shade of bright orange that Sonny Vleisides of BFL won't be wearing or is there a for-real bright orange that I'm not versed in?
legendary
Activity: 1078
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I have given up hope on any return of significant value from what was left in my Cryptsy account, but it would be nice to see a few former Cryptsy executives and employees wearing bright orange jumpsuits for the next 20-30 years.
legendary
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According to a Florida divorce court, anyhow. What I'd like to know is how he thought Cryptsy members wouldn't be ticked... http://www.coindesk.com/court-cryptsy-ceo-predicted-exchange-failure/

Yikes - Cryptsy funds diverted to purchase 1.4million property in Florida.  So what happens next?  Is there a class action lawsuit with Cryptsy members?

He also claimed that it would dissolve due to "economic conditions" - I am not understanding what he is talking about, isn't this just poor bookkeeping?
This was to happen. Weeks before disclosing that the digital currency exchange Cryptsy was insolvent, CEO Paul Vernon told a Florida divorce court in a financial affidavit that he expected the operator of the exchange to fail.
hero member
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Cmon...
A lot of people was predicting this since Cryptsy open it's doors.
Now, I wonder where Big Vern is spending our coins...
vip
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The temptations to go nefarious must be incredibly strong when you're operating an exchange. Ultimately though it's a dim move. You can run now and fuck yourself for life or build a real business that might sell for way more than you steal. Unsurprising but still pathetic and loathsome especially to keep taking deposits when you know of the 'hack' for such a long time.

Paul Vernon and his team scammed marks since 1997 while he was supposedly in the Army sucking the dicks of 3-, 4- and 5-Star Generals in the Hood down in Texas. Paul Vernon jacked off over himself when he stumbled upon Bitcoin knowing in his mind that he and his team could reap millions, more that what he fucked over in the porn and penny auction sectors combined.
hero member
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just to note anyone filing against "cryptsy" (only) under the pretense that its fincen registered, wont get very far. you need to file against
"project investors trading as cryptsy".
getting both names into the lawsuit. as it is the umbrella company 'project investors' that has the fincen registration.

EG Apple Inc. can easily declare itunes bankrupt, and close down itunes. while still running and profiting from apples retail and products business.
so just for instance going after Itunes, will make you only a creditor of the bankruptsy case. rather than something stronger against apple themselves

this is because "cryptsy" can file standard bankruptcy and leave the sheep to the wolves, where customers are fighting to their death just for a small chance of a small return.

but going after project investors means that the government get involved and penalize the wolves. which is more ammo to shoot at the wolves.
(hopefully the 1.4million dollar house gets taken, in the process)

so might be worth checking with your lawyers what they are going after, is it a proper lawsuit against a fincen registered company. or is it just wasting legal costs to be legally recognised as one of 'cryptsy' creditors in the bankruptcy that can take years for a small chance of pennies

P.S read my footer

I think the lawsuit names Project Investors and Paul Vernon.  Regardless, they are not optimistic to recover much.
legendary
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The temptations to go nefarious must be incredibly strong when you're operating an exchange. Ultimately though it's a dim move. You can run now and fuck yourself for life or build a real business that might sell for way more than you steal. Unsurprising but still pathetic and loathsome especially to keep taking deposits when you know of the 'hack' for such a long time.

well they were only doing a maximum of 3000 volume at a 0.2%buy 0.3% sell (0.5% trade fee=15btc a day)

if you have over 40,000 coins and knowing that only 10% moves in or out at a time then yes stealing anything from 25%-90% is tempting for those without morals.
as oppose to running the exchange at 15 a day which would take 2 years to make 10,000..

so those without morals would easily see that taking 25% (10,000) and hoping the trading fee's can recoup that deficit in time to go unnoticed.

but it seems they got greedy and now want to keep the majority of coins
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
The temptations to go nefarious must be incredibly strong when you're operating an exchange. Ultimately though it's a dim move. You can run now and fuck yourself for life or build a real business that might sell for way more than you steal. Unsurprising but still pathetic and loathsome especially to keep taking deposits when you know of the 'hack' for such a long time.
legendary
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A lot of us tried warning you guys for a LONG time.. Maybe you should stop listening to trolls and start listening to people with actual experience in the sector
legendary
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If this is true, then we can assume that either the hack is a lie or after being hacked, Cryptsy's MO changed a little bit. This makes "Big Vern" a con artist (beyond having been trusted with coins and "misplacing" them Roll Eyes)
sr. member
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Soo this is another exchange going down?Well i tryed it in the past and didnt liked it soo i hope all who were there can recover their funds otherwise we will see another bad experience related to bitcoin affecting thousands.
legendary
Activity: 4410
Merit: 4766
just to note anyone filing against "cryptsy" (only) under the pretense that its fincen registered, wont get very far. you need to file against
"project investors trading as cryptsy".
getting both names into the lawsuit. as it is the umbrella company 'project investors' that has the fincen registration.

EG Apple Inc. can easily declare itunes bankrupt, and close down itunes. while still running and profiting from apples retail and products business.
so just for instance going after Itunes, will make you only a creditor of the bankruptsy case. rather than something stronger against apple themselves

this is because "cryptsy" can file standard bankruptcy and leave the sheep to the wolves, where customers are fighting to their death just for a small chance of a small return.

but going after project investors means that the government get involved and penalize the wolves. which is more ammo to shoot at the wolves.
(hopefully the 1.4million dollar house gets taken, in the process)

so might be worth checking with your lawyers what they are going after, is it a proper lawsuit against a fincen registered company. or is it just wasting legal costs to be legally recognised as one of 'cryptsy' creditors in the bankruptcy that can take years for a small chance of pennies

P.S read my footer
legendary
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yea he knew he was going to exit scam at some point, taking y'all precious bitcoins for posterity.

people using centralized exchanges, with not even a company being registered, are getting exactly what they deserve.
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