So I had a person send me a pm to beg for merits.

philipma1957

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on November 13, 2023, 08:27:35 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on November 13, 2023, 05:06:26 AM

My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

I agree with you on that, because how can a newbie know who @philipma1957 is to go straight and ask for merit? That's just an indication that it might be one of those merit or account farmers. If it's so then that account need to be monitored until proven otherwise.

Philipma post a lot on daily basis as regular posting habits. He is easy to notice if you are regularly browsing on mining board and wall observer thread. Probably this user is just trying his luck on asking merit to Philipma since he seems so approachable and friendly on most of his post.

We are not sure too if this user only ask to Philipma or to other user too with high merit count.

I usually sound like a soft touch most of the time. But I am not really that soft. If anything I have seen so much here on bitcointalk I am tired of repeated cons.

This just happened to be the first person to ask for free merits in a pm.

Hell I have had a lot of shit asked of me in pm's. Just never had someone ask this.

locked thread and gave all posters 1 merit for each post they made.

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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?

ive had pms from merit beggers. they just go right into my ignore list.

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 13, 2023, 05:06:26 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 02:41:08 PM

It is why I kind of wanted to be nice and not tear him up. I do wish you could know if he is a single new person or a farmer with 5 accounts.

My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

It is definitely true that a new member should never ask for merit by pming anyone. Because a new member usually doesn't know how merit works. Who is the merit source and who has sufficient merit and from whom merit can be sought. But he is an old member but a pure shitposter

Quote from: LoyceV on November 13, 2023, 05:06:26 AM

Quote from: Hispo on November 12, 2023, 03:22:17 PM

Also catches my attention that the administrator did not mention all degree of merit begging is frown upon, but Instead let a certain margin for people to "beg reasonably" to get merits.

Compare it to Youtube: millions of videos say "please click like and subscribe". For Youtube, it's a business model. For the viewer, it's a waste of time. I wouldn't want to waste my time reading "Please Merit my post if you liked it" on every post.

Ha ha your point is funny but logical. People who do that still live in fools paradise and are the ones spamming this forum. so better to report them

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Quote from: Sexylizzy2813 on November 13, 2023, 08:27:35 AM

Quote from: LoyceV on November 13, 2023, 05:06:26 AM

My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

I agree with you on that, because how can a newbie know who @philipma1957 is to go straight and ask for merit? That's just an indication that it might be one of those merit or account farmers. If it's so then that account need to be monitored until proven otherwise.

Philipma post a lot on daily basis as regular posting habits. He is easy to notice if you are regularly browsing on mining board and wall observer thread. Probably this user is just trying his luck on asking merit to Philipma since he seems so approachable and friendly on most of his post.

We are not sure too if this user only ask to Philipma or to other user too with high merit count.

Sexylizzy2813

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Quote from: LoyceV on November 13, 2023, 05:06:26 AM

My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

I agree with you on that, because how can a newbie know who @philipma1957 is to go straight and ask for merit? That's just an indication that it might be one of those merit or account farmers. If it's so then that account need to be monitored until proven otherwise.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 09:16:41 PM

Quote from: robelneo on November 12, 2023, 07:25:27 PM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on November 12, 2023, 04:54:37 PM

If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.

Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.

The hardest thing is sorting newbies from farmers.

This particular guy that posted may be a newbie and not a farmer 🧑‍🌾 so I tried making a thread that would help him and not hurt him.

well at least he has a chance to get better.

At least you did not name him I'm sure he will be aware of this and if he is a newbie he will take this as a lesson and if he is a farmer and there's another report about him, we can tag him for abuse, if he is a farmer its likely that he has done this to other high-rank members of this forum and the other member may communicate this to you for verification or post it here.
It is good that you open this, so newbies or even farmers will be aware of what could happen to them if they beg for merits

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Quote from: stompix on November 12, 2023, 01:02:56 AM

Nobody is demanding anyone to report a thing here and I would say just ignore him!
If he is farming accounts he will just get a 7-day ban at maximum on that one while spamming the forum with other accounts, is just a whack-a-mole thing at this point.

The best thing that OP can do because of how light the consequence is for the offender or if OP is in a better mood and feeling a bit energetic and thoughtful, maybe help that merit beggar to learn how to earn merit in an honest and deserving way, so as cliche as it sounds since it's been said already in the thread, it's always up to OP.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 02:41:08 PM

It is why I kind of wanted to be nice and not tear him up. I do wish you could know if he is a single new person or a farmer with 5 accounts.

My take: a new person wouldn't ask for Merit. Why would he care? And why would he ask you?

Quote from: Hispo on November 12, 2023, 03:22:17 PM

Also catches my attention that the administrator did not mention all degree of merit begging is frown upon, but Instead let a certain margin for people to "beg reasonably" to get merits.

Compare it to Youtube: millions of videos say "please click like and subscribe". For Youtube, it's a business model. For the viewer, it's a waste of time. I wouldn't want to waste my time reading "Please Merit my post if you liked it" on every post.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 09:16:41 PM

Quote from: robelneo on November 12, 2023, 07:25:27 PM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on November 12, 2023, 04:54:37 PM

If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.

Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.

The hardest thing is sorting newbies from farmers.

I believe a simple checking of the profile will fix this.

One thing that is sure is that one can't know alts for sure though I get to suspect them, but for farming, I think it's very easy to know since most of these farmers just write cabbages and for me to deem it fit to appreciate a newbie with merits, then the account must truly worth it. That's how I satisfy my conscience in this regard.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 12:47:54 AM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

How much can the user offer someone like you @philipma1957 to get free merit 😁?

Well to me, since it is known that you need to get merits to rank up to the next level I feel it has become an obsession to many members in the Forum, asking for free merit doesn't show how serious you are on your work or how determine you're in the Forum, is like you need a free passage to the top, which is not how it works.
OP, to me I'd say you forget about reporting the user since it hasn't happened more than one (has it🤔?). If such get to happen I think you should reply to "caution" him or her and you might as well ignore the PM if you choose to and you can also keep an eye on that user (you know we have the good, the bad and the ugly on this Forum), it saves you the stress of thinking of what to do next. Ignore those messages.

philipma1957

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Quote from: robelneo on November 12, 2023, 07:25:27 PM

Quote from: EarnOnVictor on November 12, 2023, 04:54:37 PM

If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.

Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.

The hardest thing is sorting newbies from farmers.

This particular guy that posted may be a newbie and not a farmer 🧑‍🌾 so I tried making a thread that would help him and not hurt him.

well at least he has a chance to get better.

robelneo

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Quote from: EarnOnVictor on November 12, 2023, 04:54:37 PM

If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.

Those who do this are probably newbies, I will do the same, I know the feeling of coming out with what you think are good posts but not getting the merits they deserve, if there are really good posts then I will give them, if I have merits but I will also warn them that about begging for merits and sending unsolicited messages could harm their account, he may not aware or missed about these rules and this will harm his account.
Maybe this newbie will become a good and reputable member of this forum if given the right guidance coming from higher-ranking members.

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It's a decision you should have taken on the inside without even having to put it up in public. I am of the same opinion as Lucius; you can either report the PM as an unsolicited PM, and the user will probably get banned. If you get so upset about the PM,you can also put the person on your PM ignore list. Personally, I like to give people a second chance because, on a normal basis, I know that sometimes people take some crazy decisions to carry out some actions. It's only when the result of their action is not productive but perhaps hurts them that they realize they made a mess. You could receive the PM and just ignore it, but when the same user keeps getting on your nerve by sending the same PM repeatedly, you will have enough reason to even tag the person by yourself.

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To me if someone pm you or you didn't create a topic that says pm for post review then I will say is very bad all less you give a room for that just as few users do give a room to pm them for post review. Don't be surprised if you released merits to them you will end up receiving unsolicited pm from random users because the already given user will go tell their friends who is lacking merits to also send you pm to have some free merits, so my suggestion is that no need to report them neither do they qualify to receive any from you and if you released to them watch out before 7 days to 2 weeks times you receive countless of pm from users you don't expect to beg for merits because you already opened the door to give the first person who asked already so it's upto you to ignore such user or not.

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It could be that the user doesn't know that it is against the forum rules to beg for merits. Although theymos said excessive begging for merits is not allowed, which means there is a room for normal or minimal begging for merits Grin

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"okay no merit gifts for you.

please read this thread it may help you out.

What a nice reply. Reading this thread and you not being harsh on him might encourage him to do more. However, if you have some smerits you could check his post history to see if there is any quality post you can drop some merits on.

Besides, The Sceptical Chymist runs a thread that he urges people to send him a pm to review their posts and offer merits. Although you are not him. And the way you treated the matter might be the best way.

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Quote from: digaran on November 12, 2023, 01:36:00 AM

Lol he said "do not beg for merits excessively" which means there are some rooms for begging. I think you are mature enough to let such actions slide as if they are some cheeky neighborhood kids running around asking for some candy from time to time. IMO, you should let everything slide unless it's something causing damage to you or other people.😉

I love your mature response my friend and I wonder why some people take this life as if it's so difficult and as a big deal. Asking for merit is what I see as the least offence anyone could commit in this forum and towards any user in particular and it's your choice to oblige or not. It's as simple as that.

I believe the OP just asked for asking sake, not even seriously, but how some people took it so seriously to the extent of tagging the person is what baffles me on how people could be cruel on vanity.

If anyone asks me for merits, I will certainly go to his profile and see if such deserves it or not. Giving a few to a person truly deserving of it is never a bad idea. Afterall, the merit system is not perfect.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 12:47:54 AM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

If that person asked you to review his/her posts then that's okay because you can review his/her posts and if they aren't merit worthy then tell him/her directly that his/her posts aren't good enough to receive any merits from you. I don't think that it would make anything good by reporting a person like that who's asking for merits as we know everyone wants to grow their account to max level which is legendary and some newbies who aren't good at posting often make such PM's to get some free merits.

@The Sceptical Chymist offered his post history thread to the members who contribute good information on forum and I'm quite sure he might get so many PM's because of that offer. The legit members who made good contribution on forum might have received some merits from him while the ones with low-quality to no-quality posts didn't quality to get any merits from him.

I recommend you to ignore that message and don't report it but still you want to report that member for merit begging then report that member to a moderator or make a thread in reputation board and share details of the PM with others. But, still I think it's way better to avoid those PM's or those members who ask for merits rather then reporting them.

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I have never received a message like that, to be honest. I have received some shady stuff, but nothing as direct as merit begging.
If I had to guess, it would say there is a 70% of chances that user is part of an account farming operation, I do not have any proof of it, just what my gut says to me.
Whether you wish to invest some of your time monitoring their activity to corroborate whether it is or not worth of tagging is up to you, though you should also consider you may not be the first person they messaged for merits and you will likely not be the last one.
You just happened to be the one do decided not to ignore the DM and open a thread about it. If such person decides not to stop it eventually they will get a red tag for merit begging.

Also catches my attention that the administrator did not mention all degree of merit begging is frown upon, but Instead let a certain margin for people to "beg reasonably" to get merits.
If more people knew about it, they would have likey started their Bitcointalk journey by begging a bit, and not learning how to post content of quality and which appealed to the average merit source.
The more you know... Wink

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 12:47:54 AM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

I get begging pms here and there. At worst report them to admin where you can in the pm. Least they're only begging for merits, I have pms from people begging for btc, merits, votes in contests, and removal of feedback. Some even from reputable members. I have decided not to report or chastise the users for the most part and let it go.

philipma1957

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Quote from: Subbir on November 12, 2023, 01:25:41 PM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 12, 2023, 12:47:54 AM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

Haha

buy merit from you! Grin

He may not know what you can do to him! Grin

It is why I kind of wanted to be nice and not tear him up. I do wish you could know if he is a single new person or a farmer with 5 accounts.

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