So I had a person send me a pm to beg for merits. - page 2.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

When someone asks for merit by personal message it means he doesn't deserve merit for his any post because he always posts shit. so I don't think reporting such shit posters would be a crime Cheesy

Whether you report him or not is entirely up to you. But if it had happened to me, I certainly wouldn't have ignored it without reporting it

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

That is left for you to decide on what to do. The person should have asked humbly by maybe saying; he/she wants a review of their post and share them some merits if they are worthy of it. That might have sound more appropriate than just begging or asking for it for free.

Quote from: BitMaxz on November 12, 2023, 09:02:42 AM

Why not tell us the username of who PM you?
I'm sure after he read all the posts here he would stop begging for merit.

The thread is enough for him/her to learn from, exposing the user won’t undo what he/she has done and might be frightened as a newbie he/she may be. If he/she wants to do something like that in future, the replies he/she sees from this thread will guide him/her on whether to go on or not.

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I think giving out one or two merits won't do any harm (of course he must have the minimum post quality to have merits). You can't just give merits to spam posts. But if one excessively asks for merits and PM you several times, then you should just add him to your ignore list. I have seen many cases of asking (not begging) for merit on my local board. Like when a member is close to full rank, 80, 85, or 90 merits, he would send PMs to our senior members. Some even posted directly in the thread for the help of our senior members. So that he can rank up. So that's common. Even today, I saw a member doing this, i think he had 87 or 89 merit. In this case, giving merit should be understandable. Everyone has different opinions, of course, but it's mine.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

Am I required to report it?

You are free to do whatever you want, but if I was at your side I would have replied to him and told him that Merit begging is not allowed and give him a warning. I know some people will say that we should give neutral or expose them as they may be account farmers etc but out of goodwill, sometimes a person may not know the rules and genuinely make a mistake. Giving him a warning should be the way to go.
If he continues doing so, then ofcourse he will have to bear the consequences.

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Quote from: BitMaxz on November 12, 2023, 09:02:42 AM

I have the same case received a PM from a newbie asking for merit I just ignored them but I give sometimes if the thread or the post he made is helpful.

Why not tell us the username of who PM you?
I'm sure after he read all the posts here he would stop begging for merit.

I will keep an eye on what he does maybe he learns.

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I have the same case received a PM from a newbie asking for merit I just ignored them but I give sometimes if the thread or the post he made is helpful.

Why not tell us the username of who PM you?
I'm sure after he read all the posts here he would stop begging for merit.

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Quote from: Zaguru12 on November 12, 2023, 12:18:32 AM

Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

This is personally down to you, if you don’t like what he did and would wish others to be wary of him then it is your choice to create a report which I think will lead to some DT tagging him. Or you can just ignore his posts, PM and probably reports his PM again as unsolicited.

I haven’t read about a laid down punishment for this act just account buying it is frowned upon and the punishment to the offender lies on your own hands.

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Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

7. No begging. [5]

That rule is for money, not merit!

Here is theymos’s own link warning against it

Quote from: theymos on January 24, 2018, 06:00:11 PM

Do not beg for merit excessively.

Based on this quote I replied to his pm with a link to this thread.

here is what I sent to him:

since it is my pm I can reveal my answer:

"okay no merit gifts for you.

please read this thread it may help you out.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63143588"

I sent that and started this thread because
I rather a newer person learn than have them banned or tagged.

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Quote from: DaveF on November 12, 2023, 07:54:34 AM

Oddly enough I have never gotten a message asking for merit that I can remember.

It just doesn't happen often.

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Guess I am enough of an ass that people know not to bother.

I wouldn't bet against human stupidity. I literally wrote the topic on banning plagiarism, and still people copy my posts.

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Oddly enough I have never gotten a message asking for merit that I can remember.
Guess I am enough of an ass that people know not to bother.

Quote from: stompix on November 12, 2023, 12:02:56 AM

Quote from: mprep on July 21, 2014, 12:27:51 PM

7. No begging. [5]

That rule is for money, not merit!

I always thought that was for everything.
Yes, merit came out after that rule. But no begging for BTC, no begging for project support, just ask don't beg.

-Dave

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Quote from: Pmalek on November 12, 2023, 03:30:36 AM

Quote from: joker_josue on November 12, 2023, 03:01:16 AM

There are users who like to be asked for merits, they even create topics for these requests.

That's different. I had such threads as well, and the rules clearly state don't PM me asking for anything in private. So if I see someone who is not only incapable of receiving the one merit they need/want and can't even bother to read my thread to understand how to apply, it makes me angry. I don't feel like talking with that individual at all, let alone help them.

Of course, totally agree. Personally, I don't think it makes any sense to ask for merits, I've never done it and I have no intention of doing so.
^{At the very least, I leave indirect hints... lol}

So I said, the best solution is to ignore it. And if the person insists, report it as abuse.

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I don't think I'd do anything about it personally except maybe send him a friendly heads up that hitting people up for merits aint really the way we do things around here. I might even skim through his posts to see if he's contributed anything worthwhile. But if he's bugging me over and over and it starts feeling harassy, then I'd bring the mods into it.

I don't think we've got a hard defined rule about this kind of thing. And it's possible it was an honest mistake if the guy is new and doesn't know the norms yet, so I don't think asking for merits has to be punishable and like someone said, there's worse things than asking for merits.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

If someone just asks merit without any further explanation, then I would personally report such a message to the administrators, if nothing else then that user should get at least a temporary ban and that way a message is sent to him that what he is doing is not something people on the forum approve of. As far as can be seen from the answers in this topic, the majority have not done anything or will not do anything, and this only encourages those who want to get the merits the easy way.

Of course, there are also users who have publicly offered to send them requests in which they then check the post history of a user and assign merit to the posts they consider worthy of it. This means that there can be two approaches of those who send such PMs, some are ordinary beggars, others still want someone to look at their post history.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

Am I required to report it?

IMO, not required but it's up to you.

I also received a PM similar case in the last few months, ain't sure it was begging merit but as I understand it was asking merit of the shitpost he made. I quickly checked his post history but I found he is not worth having even a single merit.

I simply declined the request in a polite manner and explained to him how merit distribution works which is only for a quality post.
I told him that one day when I find something worth it from his post or a quality post I'll not hesitate to give him a merit once I see it improves.

I think they might be confused about the merit system since they're new in the forum and how to get it (I assume they're new in the forum, not those account farming). So give them a chance and explain to them politely the right thing to do.

You can ignore the request or decline the request, it depends on you aside from leaving neutral feedback.
As commented above, I tend to agree that reporting as an unsolicited PM might accurate one.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 12, 2023, 03:53:35 AM

Looks like merits are becoming more popular than they seem to have been for the past year or so. I was beginning to wonder why members weren't as obsessed with ranking up like they always were.

Maybe a new generation is discovering how to make some easy BTC or BUSD here and the competition is getting a little bit more fierce. But not too much though...

I have been seeing a lot more bought accounts waking up to participate in certain campaigns that I guess are deemed lucrative. I don't know when or how they were acquired by their new owners, but a lengthy pause followed by an abrupt change in writing style is often a good indicator.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

So a how to report this?

You can report with reason such as "unsolicited/unwanted PM". If that user send such PM to many user and he got reported by few users, it's likely he'll get temporary ban.

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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on November 12, 2023, 03:53:35 AM

Looks like merits are becoming more popular than they seem to have been for the past year or so. I was beginning to wonder why members weren't as obsessed with ranking up like they always were.

I think that members finally realized how easy is to farm merit after theymos did merit readjustment ~2 years ago (before that it was much harder to get merit) so they started creating alts and submitting their "work" in those merit topics on a more massive scale than before.

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Quote from: nutildah on November 12, 2023, 01:09:43 AM

Kind of happy I don't get these DMs, at least not more than 1 per year. I think its because people don't want their alt accounts found out. Cheesy

Funny you should bring that up; ever since I announced that I'm no longer including the gambling section in my post history review offer, I've been getting way fewer requests--and the reason I'm excluding posts there is because I strongly suspected I was doing reviews for a bunch of alt accounts even though I don't have enough proof to connect them.

OP, if I got a PM just asking for merits without having to look at the member's posts I might report the PM to the mods depending on my mood (which has been as sour as a rotten lemon as of late). But if I were to take the high road, I'd just put that member's PMs on ignore and be done with it. If he's PMing you, he's probably PMing other members and somebody's likely to report him anyway.

Looks like merits are becoming more popular than they seem to have been for the past year or so. I was beginning to wonder why members weren't as obsessed with ranking up like they always were.

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Quote from: philipma1957 on November 11, 2023, 11:47:54 PM

The person did not offer money. They just asked for some free merit.

So a how to report this?

Am I required to report it?

Of course you know better what to do, but if I may give an opinion, it's better for you to tell him that asking for merit is prohibited, or just ignore him. But if he asks multiple times, maybe you can create a thread on the reputation board

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I receive some of these messages, but I look at the user’s posts. If they look like account farming, I add them to the ignore list. If they are a beginner, I will inform him nicely or send them some Merits with a warning.

I don't know, but I fail to read the rules in other forums, and therefore we all make mistakes in the first days, so it is varies from one case to another.

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