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legendary
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October 03, 2012, 02:12:46 AM
#30
Ugh.  Since I took the time to read through most of those, I thought I'd post a tl;dr.

Whoever posted these threads is an idiot.  There's really just not any other way of putting it.  On the one forum, he (most likely a he) seems to have done a sloppy job of pretending to be female, before doing an absolutely horrible job of promoting his site and Bitcoins, not only confusing anyone who might have been interested but also wasting everyone's time trying to engage a few people who were obviously not interested, and were more than likely tied to competitor services.

I'll just make a little bullet list of what he did wrong, in semi-chronological order:

  • Lied
  • Exaggerated the benefits of Bitcoin
  • Used poor grammar/spelling
  • Failed to explain what Bitcoins are and how they work
  • Failed to differentiate his site/service from Bitcoin itself
  • Failed to highlight the pros and cons of his service
  • Posted too often / often making multiple posts in a row
  • Demonstrated limited understanding of the target market
  • Was overly defensive
  • Was sarcastic
  • Resorted to insults

And that was just the first thread.  The second seemed to be doing better, until people from the first thread showed up and things similarly went downhill.

On the bright side, however...

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So if the value of bitcoins varies like gold...

... then one day a bitcoin might cover the cost of a double anal fisting with backflips show, and only enough to cover the cost of a 2 second nipple flash the next day.

At least someone gets it.
legendary
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hero member
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Wat
June 22, 2012, 07:21:28 AM
#28
http://cam4btc.com/  all you have to do is point the camgirls here now.
hero member
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Bitcoin Mayor of Las Vegas
When talking to adult entertainers about Bitcoin, and they ask "how can I spend these things?",  please remember to mention they can pay their rent with Bitcoin (if they live in Vegas).

I mean, that's awesome, but they'd probably have to move right?

Not necessarily. I've hear that a lot of entertainers fly into Vegas like cattle on a train every Friday. Could be a way to pay for a more established or permanent place of stay. I unno... just sayin..
legendary
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Strength in numbers
When talking to adult entertainers about Bitcoin, and they ask "how can I spend these things?",  please remember to mention they can pay their rent with Bitcoin (if they live in Vegas).

I mean, that's awesome, but they'd probably have to move right?
hero member
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Bitcoin Mayor of Las Vegas
When talking to adult entertainers about Bitcoin, and they ask "how can I spend these things?",  please remember to mention they can pay their rent with Bitcoin (if they live in Vegas).
legendary
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That's a nice reference. I'll have to remember to post that in the threads where people post their emails, cause pretty much every one I have seen posted here is horrible and probably does more harm than good.

   
legendary
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Speaking of evangelism, has anyone gathered a collection of tips on how it should and shouldn't be done? That might be very useful. I did a quick search, but I couldn't find much more than "tell them how awesome it is and include a link to weusecoins".

See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Public_relations

Dear mother of Gox, we've had that for almost a year now?!?

I reckon! It's like Bitcoin's got its own Wikipedia, but better. Excuse me while I fire my secretary.


He was talking about the page, not about the wiki...
legendary
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Speaking of evangelism, has anyone gathered a collection of tips on how it should and shouldn't be done? That might be very useful. I did a quick search, but I couldn't find much more than "tell them how awesome it is and include a link to weusecoins".

See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Public_relations

Dear mother of Gox, we've had that for almost a year now?!?
hero member
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Speaking of evangelism, has anyone gathered a collection of tips on how it should and shouldn't be done? That might be very useful. I did a quick search, but I couldn't find much more than "tell them how awesome it is and include a link to weusecoins".

See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Public_relations

That's a great page.  I hadn't seen it before.


Reading the other forum's topics made me sad.  These girls are fearful of Bitcoin for the exact reasons why it is awesome -- no government, no centralization, open source, virtually no trust.  Sad
sr. member
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Thanks! That's was exactly was I was looking for!
legendary
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Chief Scientist
Speaking of evangelism, has anyone gathered a collection of tips on how it should and shouldn't be done? That might be very useful. I did a quick search, but I couldn't find much more than "tell them how awesome it is and include a link to weusecoins".

See https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Public_relations
legendary
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There seriously needs to be a simple link that people can attach, 10x shorter than Evorhees' article and aimed at busting the most popular uber-sceptic myths, one bullet point at a time.

Except it's really not a simple as, "Here, read this." If it were, there'd be no need.
legendary
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My money; Our Bitcoin.
There seriously needs to be a simple link that people can attach, 10x shorter than Evorhees' article and aimed at busting the most popular uber-sceptic myths, one bullet point at a time.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Myths
legendary
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Bitcoin
To be fair that on girl kitten instigated pretty much the whole thing whenever the question was answered it looked like she just asked it again lol
rjk
sr. member
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1ngldh
Speaking of evangelism, has anyone gathered a collection of tips on how it should and shouldn't be done? That might be very useful. I did a quick search, but I couldn't find much more than "tell them how awesome it is and include a link to weusecoins".
This. Bitcoin reminds me a lot of RMS and free software except the motivations range from ethical to financial and the perceived threats to the reader are more serious if presented the wrong way. Since this will likely repeat itself 1000x, we need something like: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html
Yes it would be good to have a comprehensive set of guidelines. I think in this case it was easy to see that there was an agenda (drive traffic to the guy's website, even if it wasn't taking a fee or anything), and that stood out like a sore thumb.

Unfortunately, someone that is trying to recruit users really needs to know a heck of a lot about every aspect of the ecosystem, which is one reason that I haven't been discussing it much. (Still learning...)
This is difficult because of the sheer volume of information that comprises a comprehensive knowledge of the system.
hero member
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Only looked at the first thread and I´m surprised at how well many of them understod Bitcoin. Its not what I had expected from cam girls but its probably prejudice from my part.

To bad it went messed up.


legendary
Activity: 1102
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Speaking of evangelism, has anyone gathered a collection of tips on how it should and shouldn't be done? That might be very useful. I did a quick search, but I couldn't find much more than "tell them how awesome it is and include a link to weusecoins".
This. Bitcoin reminds me a lot of RMS and free software except the motivations range from ethical to financial and the perceived threats to the reader are more serious if presented the wrong way. Since this will likely repeat itself 1000x, we need something like: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html
legendary
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Strength in numbers
Fucking evangelists, that can't properly approach skeptics and noobs. Just STOP and let someone else that knows what they are doing do the dirty work. Those threads started by people with an agenda cause more people to spread bad things against bitcoin, and less to actually research any major amount and get converted and useful.

You have now successfully turned whole forums against bitcoin, for your failure to properly discuss bitcoin. Proper discussion includes but is not limited to abiding by the rules of the forums in which you are posting, such as that you must be a female in order to post, no spam or ads, or whatever.


Meh. I thought they sounded surprisingly reasonable. I've had much worse results in the past. Maybe it's a "girl thing" where even the scepticism is less aggressive?

You must only have read the first thread. The second is an abomination after about 2 pages.
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