So is Monero the best anon Coin ? - page 2.

sui_generis

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 01:28:14 PM

Already did. Rebutting with blatant lies helps no one.

FUDing will not help your shitcoin investments. The market has already decided that Monero is the most trustworthy privacy coin. If in doubt, just look at how DNM druggies (an impartial audience) view Zcash. Hint: even druggies know to stay away when the founder starts praising backdoors.

Compare Monero community activity to that of Zcash, Dash, etc. It's over buddy, the network effect can't be reversed. Same reason your Bcash shitcoin will fail even if Bitcoin has 10x higher fees.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 01:28:14 PM

Quote from: c789 on August 24, 2017, 01:26:40 PM

Everyone has bias. What matters is if what they say is true or not. If something is not true, please supply quotes, evidence, and reasoning to support any claim you have.

Already did. Rebutting with blatant lies helps no one.

If those are lies, then you should heavily short Monero.

There's enough here for anyone to do their own research, so I'll not beat a dead horse.

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Quote from: c789 on August 24, 2017, 01:26:40 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 01:17:50 PM

Quote from: c789 on August 24, 2017, 01:10:06 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:18:01 PM

Quote from: the_hodler on August 24, 2017, 09:44:30 AM

I would rate Monero better than other coins right now in terms of the anonymity it provides out of the box.

I have written about both Monero and ZCash on my blog...

Beginner's guide to Zcash

Beginner's guide to Monero

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

The Monerolink PDF has been answered by https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html

That Monerolink PDF was written in part by Andrew Miller, who is on the official Zcash team (https://z.cash/team.html). That removes any impartiality which, being an academic, he's supposed to have. And, as seen in the link above, the faults they find with Monero can be easily debunked and/or those faults no longer apply since they've been fixed and have been fixed for some time. So, it's just FUD, but do your own research and see for yourself.

Here's a comparison of privacy-centric coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

Lmao @ that extremely biased nonsense. Monero users like to twist words and meanings to try and convince people what aspects of privacy are actually important. They will conflate things that would protect users privacy with gimmicks like not having a rich list. The important aspects of privacy fall extremely short for monero. The way the community tries to ignore it is embarrassing.

Everyone has bias. What matters is if what they say is true or not. If something is not true, please supply quotes, evidence, and reasoning to support any claim you have.

Already did. Rebutting with blatant lies helps no one.

c789

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 01:17:50 PM

Quote from: c789 on August 24, 2017, 01:10:06 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:18:01 PM

Quote from: the_hodler on August 24, 2017, 09:44:30 AM

I would rate Monero better than other coins right now in terms of the anonymity it provides out of the box.

I have written about both Monero and ZCash on my blog...

Beginner's guide to Zcash

Beginner's guide to Monero

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

The Monerolink PDF has been answered by https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html

That Monerolink PDF was written in part by Andrew Miller, who is on the official Zcash team (https://z.cash/team.html). That removes any impartiality which, being an academic, he's supposed to have. And, as seen in the link above, the faults they find with Monero can be easily debunked and/or those faults no longer apply since they've been fixed and have been fixed for some time. So, it's just FUD, but do your own research and see for yourself.

Here's a comparison of privacy-centric coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

Lmao @ that extremely biased nonsense. Monero users like to twist words and meanings to try and convince people what aspects of privacy are actually important. They will conflate things that would protect users privacy with gimmicks like not having a rich list. The important aspects of privacy fall extremely short for monero. The way the community tries to ignore it is embarrassing.

Everyone has bias. What matters is if what they say is true or not. If something is not true, please supply quotes, evidence, and reasoning to support any claim you have.

25hashcoin

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Quote from: c789 on August 24, 2017, 01:10:06 PM

Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:18:01 PM

Quote from: the_hodler on August 24, 2017, 09:44:30 AM

I would rate Monero better than other coins right now in terms of the anonymity it provides out of the box.

I have written about both Monero and ZCash on my blog...

Beginner's guide to Zcash

Beginner's guide to Monero

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

The Monerolink PDF has been answered by https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html

That Monerolink PDF was written in part by Andrew Miller, who is on the official Zcash team (https://z.cash/team.html). That removes any impartiality which, being an academic, he's supposed to have. And, as seen in the link above, the faults they find with Monero can be easily debunked and/or those faults no longer apply since they've been fixed and have been fixed for some time. So, it's just FUD, but do your own research and see for yourself.

Here's a comparison of privacy-centric coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

Lmao @ that extremely biased nonsense. Monero users like to twist words and meanings to try and convince people what aspects of privacy are actually important. They will conflate things that would protect users privacy with gimmicks like not having a rich list. The important aspects of privacy fall extremely short for monero. The way the community tries to ignore it is embarrassing.

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Quote from: 25hashcoin on August 24, 2017, 12:18:01 PM

Quote from: the_hodler on August 24, 2017, 09:44:30 AM

I would rate Monero better than other coins right now in terms of the anonymity it provides out of the box.

I have written about both Monero and ZCash on my blog...

Beginner's guide to Zcash

Beginner's guide to Monero

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

The Monerolink PDF has been answered by https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-an-empirical-analysis-of-linkability.html

That Monerolink PDF was written in part by Andrew Miller, who is on the official Zcash team (https://z.cash/team.html). That removes any impartiality which, being an academic, he's supposed to have. And, as seen in the link above, the faults they find with Monero can be easily debunked and/or those faults no longer apply since they've been fixed and have been fixed for some time. So, it's just FUD, but do your own research and see for yourself.

Here's a comparison of privacy-centric coins: https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoinmixers.php

25hashcoin

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Quote from: the_hodler on August 24, 2017, 09:44:30 AM

I would rate Monero better than other coins right now in terms of the anonymity it provides out of the box.

I have written about both Monero and ZCash on my blog...

Beginner's guide to Zcash

Beginner's guide to Monero

https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

25hashcoin

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https://steemit.com/cryptocurrency/@anonymint/is-monero-s-or-all-anonymity-broken

http://monerolink.com/monerolink.pdf

Nope.

Monero is dead.

Best anon coins are Zcash and ZenCash, which also happen to be extremely undervalued right now unlike crapcoins like monero and dash.

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There is a lot of coin better than Monero.

What other coins do you suggest? I see huge growth coming from Monero in the next couple of years.

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I would rate Monero better than other coins right now in terms of the anonymity it provides out of the box.

I have written about both Monero and ZCash on my blog...

Beginner's guide to Zcash

Beginner's guide to Monero

RKh

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Whoever chose XSPEC based on its tech and strong dev team

made x4 and x5 during August alone on "not so popular exchange"

Congrats and it is just a start. The more people know about the coin, the higher the price (it is not some soda selling machines token after all)

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Sure, I have some limited exposure to Monero, but I'm liking CLOAK. Cloakcoin has been very good to me in the past... Grin

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$XSPEC vs $PIVX vs $XMR vs $DASH vs $ZEC

https://twitter.com/harv_w16/status/897133723774316544

A picture says a thousand words....

robeth

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For now monero is very good, investing for the owner of capital is very profitable.
So my answer is '' :oyes''

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Right now I would choose Monero. However Verge and Spectre may be the new coins to have in 2018.

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Quote from: Hodor7777 on August 04, 2017, 10:17:29 PM

Quote from: CoinCollector006 on August 04, 2017, 09:54:02 PM

Yes, the blockchain operates over the TOR network, which means that your IP address is anonymized. So you can not be tracked when you send or receive funds using one of these crypto coins at least not easily by anyone less than a super hacker. You can think of this as an extra layer of security to protect you and remain anonymous.

For more info see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network) and also https://deeponion.org

Thanks for the response! I'm familiar with Tor; so it seems that the wallet itself uses the Tor network to communicate with other nodes. Which coin was the first pioneer of this technique?

AFAIK Tor integration was attempted by a number of coins, but couldn't name authoritatively which one was first. However, even with the "normal" Tor integration, there is a problem: several countries, including China, are blocking Tor usage by deploying Deep Packet Inspection. To get around this Tor has been extended to use Pluggable Transports, of which OBFS4 is the most effective one. Monero, PIVX, Dash ... none of them is able to use OBFS4. The only coin I know of which has that capability is the technically superb, but commercially as of yet underappreciated XSPEC (SpectreCoin). They cleverly also implemented PoSv3 instead of PoW, for the benefit of privacy conscious users with little computing power (such as a simple Android phone).

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Quote from: CoinCollector006 on August 04, 2017, 09:20:56 PM

Quote from: rowenta01 on July 27, 2017, 08:29:32 AM

I like innovative technologies so I would say:

- Zcash / Hush / Zen: Zcash being the first
- Zcoin
- Cloakcoin
- Monero / Sumokoin
- Verge

They are all very good and have a good future I think if developers continue their work well!

Hello rowenta01, this is a great list, I just wanted to add a few dark horse candidates just to be comprehensive.

Zclassic - formed from Zcash, community driven coin
Aeon - also from the CryptoNote family
DeepOnion - Tor integrated, this has gone viral in recent weeks
Spectrecoin - Tor integrated, formerly ShadowCash

My favorites of the privacy coins either by capital invested or sweat equity are Monero, Verge and Deep Onion.
Two coins that are integrating anon capabilities are Byteball and Viacoin so these are worth keeping an eye on.

It is my view that the war on cash will lead to a major capital realignments to privacy coins via a vis cash, so fasten your seatbelts.

Currently SPECTRE is better than every ANON coin, and of course Monero
It already has working client with integrated TOR (and currently the only one)

1. What can Spectre do which Monero cannot?
- POSv3 Staking Rewards and full supply is in circulation.
- OBFS4 security layer.
- Encrypted Chat

2. What can Monero do which Spectre Cannot?
- Mine/POW"

Just facts here. No bias. (c) sirsplashalot

If you still don't believe checkout the comparison pic
http://SBinfo.ru/1502705496

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It’s easy to confuse what is with what ought to be

Quote from: CoinCollector006 on August 04, 2017, 09:54:02 PM

Yes, the blockchain operates over the TOR network, which means that your IP address is anonymized. So you can not be tracked when you send or receive funds using one of these crypto coins at least not easily by anyone less than a super hacker. You can think of this as an extra layer of security to protect you and remain anonymous.

For more info see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network) and also https://deeponion.org

Thanks for the response! I'm familiar with Tor; so it seems that the wallet itself uses the Tor network to communicate with other nodes. Which coin was the first pioneer of this technique?

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Yes, the blockchain operates over the TOR network, which means that your IP address is anonymized. So you can not be tracked when you send or receive funds using one of these crypto coins at least not easily by anyone less than a super hacker. You can think of this as an extra layer of security to protect you and remain anonymous.

For more info see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_(anonymity_network) and also https://deeponion.org

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It’s easy to confuse what is with what ought to be

Quote from: CoinCollector006 on August 04, 2017, 09:20:56 PM

DeepOnion - Tor integrated, this has gone viral in recent weeks
Spectrecoin - Tor integrated, formerly ShadowCash

How does "Tor Integrated" work? Somehow the nodes run on tor? (i.e., the client?)

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