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Quote from: soros017 on February 02, 2017, 07:38:59 PM

Quote from: mrkevio on January 25, 2017, 04:33:43 PM

If you are unable to withdraw it doesn't mean you cannot get your money. Instead of risking a thousand bucks, you should better wait for their answer and then see what to do next.. This is what I would do, now it is only your choice. Calm down and think about it: would you prefer spending a week trying to get the $900 back or you prefer to risk losing it in seconds?

In such a situation, I would also advise to keep calm and wait for a support solution. If the service is a serious business, then one time or another they will solve the problem. This is a significant amount of Bitcoin, and it would be very risky to play with all this, in my opinion.

I think it will be need of support due to manually withdraw and checking the background and sportsbet its already happen before when someone win above 1 btc and withdraw it and get the same issue but its solve with the support just verifying that no fraud happen in the bets.
And i think its should be fix right now or any update about this issue?

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Quote from: mrkevio on January 25, 2017, 04:33:43 PM

If you are unable to withdraw it doesn't mean you cannot get your money. Instead of risking a thousand bucks, you should better wait for their answer and then see what to do next.. This is what I would do, now it is only your choice. Calm down and think about it: would you prefer spending a week trying to get the $900 back or you prefer to risk losing it in seconds?

In such a situation, I would also advise to keep calm and wait for a support solution. If the service is a serious business, then one time or another they will solve the problem. This is a significant amount of Bitcoin, and it would be very risky to play with all this, in my opinion.

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What sportbet.io has done is similiar to the following:

You give a credit to a debtor and when you want the credit back, the debtor suddenly says: "No, first you have to prove your identity!"

Crazy, isn't it?

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Quote from: FrueGreads on February 01, 2017, 07:56:51 AM

Well if you didn't do anything wrong, then I think there is no reason for them to keep your coins blocked, and everything should be solved in the future. So I guess you should treat those coins as you normally would. I don't think that betting all of it like that would be a good option, because until your problem is settled, those are still your coins and you will probably be able to withdraw them.

So my suggestion is that you should slow down, and keep betting as you normally would.

i did withdraw more than 1 bitcoin at once several times from sportsbet.io , last time i have cashed out 900mbtc and never face a weird problem like this , AFAIK for those people who deposit and gamble more than 10 bitcoin at once there , they are entitled to ask their player a KYC procedure due some security reasons which i personally understand about it.

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Well if you didn't do anything wrong, then I think there is no reason for them to keep your coins blocked, and everything should be solved in the future. So I guess you should treat those coins as you normally would. I don't think that betting all of it like that would be a good option, because until your problem is settled, those are still your coins and you will probably be able to withdraw them.

So my suggestion is that you should slow down, and keep betting as you normally would.

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Wow, that is a big win, congratulations. Everyone will be really wanting to withdraw that, its a big win for crying out loud! And if we cant, it really is frustrating. Though it actually happened to me also but in my case it is just their least or the lowest bitcoin you can withdraw, i think it is .001. I cant withdraw it so I am really really frustrated and ended up losing it. So what I can tell you is dont do what i did and bro please be calm. I know the feeling but you must be really calm and patient, that is yours and yours alone.

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Quote from: LLec on January 31, 2017, 09:33:28 AM

And this game-protect:
https://www.bitcoingg.com/using-bitcoin-highlights-anonymity-transparency/

They do not have a right to demand any kyc or aml information from their gamblers if fiat is not exchanged before sending the winnings of the bitcoins won at the bitcoin sites.

Some class action lawsuit should happen against this triple-threat gambling casino organization.
Vegascasino.io/Bitcasino.io/Sportsbet.io!

Definetely, but for your 1 BTC embezzled, it is not worth the costs. This is one reason why an online gaming consumer protection service is required. Wink

But there is currently a court case against their licensor Curacao eGaming and if this case will be successful, then you can add your claim, because their licensor is liable for the misbehaviour of shady sportsbet.io. Please keep your screenshots and email conversations stored as proof.

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And this game-protect:
https://www.bitcoingg.com/using-bitcoin-highlights-anonymity-transparency/

They do not have a right to demand any kyc or aml information from their gamblers if fiat is not exchanged before sending the winnings of the bitcoins won at the bitcoin sites.

Some class action lawsuit should happen against this triple-threat gambling casino organization.
Vegascasino.io/Bitcasino.io/Sportsbet.io!

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Quote from: mrkevio on January 25, 2017, 04:33:43 PM

If you are unable to withdraw it doesn't mean you cannot get your money. Instead of risking a thousand bucks, you should better wait for their answer and then see what to do next.. This is what I would do, now it is only your choice. Calm down and think about it: would you prefer spending a week trying to get the $900 back or you prefer to risk losing it in seconds?

What are you talking about!?
I lost the money already! It has been a month now and they refused to give me my withdrawal even after following their rules and submitting i.d for indentification purposes so they can allow me to take it out of there. But then they brought up even more hoops for me to jump through after getting that passport and proof of address from me. And they still denied my request for withdrawal. So I bet it all just to not have to talk to their annoying security team and their hopeless support people that could not even even see that I was in the right.
And gamesprotect you are right they don't see it as currency so they can get away with murder that way in stealing from their players and knowing they can get away with it because they know we have baseless cases against them for their juristdiction will be in their favor if ever brought to a court of law.
And on another thread you explained win 10 machine being seen from logging into their site with the same ip address. So what. Everbody uses win10 operating system or chrome if were all using new laptops and tablets. That has no merit to lock a users account from withdrawing.
What if we all bet on directbet.eu with them instead. They would not block any user accounts because of this. This is just ridculous way to scam people from their winnings at these two bit casinos.

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If you are unable to withdraw it doesn't mean you cannot get your money. Instead of risking a thousand bucks, you should better wait for their answer and then see what to do next.. This is what I would do, now it is only your choice. Calm down and think about it: would you prefer spending a week trying to get the $900 back or you prefer to risk losing it in seconds?

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Bitcoins are even not a currency in Curacao.

Practically, they let you bet 5 "apples" and you won 100 apples. Now they deny to give you your 100 apples without any legitimate reason!

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Quote from: emberbekas on January 24, 2017, 11:54:08 AM

I think he already used that money to play again and lost. So sad to read it. There is a lesson from this story. Self control is very important not only when we did gamble, but when we faced a technical problem, we have to keep patient and don't let such problem gives a big impact to our games. Try to fix the problem first before we decide to play another games.

Losing a bitcoin in single bet is really an heart breaking event. I never make such a big single bet, maybe because i cant afford to lose that much. But think for a min, if he had won with 1 BTC and doubled it, Wow that would have been great for him. I can only say better luck next time.

Already you made good profit better it is not wise to move further because you will be in risk position if you move further, it's better wait for 12 hrs and withdraw your money that is the best way to do it right now.

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As you have said you can't withdraw it for 12 hrs,, How much more if your amounts get higher the time hold would also increase? IMO you have to just wait and withdraw your amounts that is the best thing that you could do right now (wait)

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Quote from: emberbekas on January 24, 2017, 11:54:08 AM

I think he already used that money to play again and lost. So sad to read it. There is a lesson from this story. Self control is very important not only when we did gamble, but when we faced a technical problem, we have to keep patient and don't let such problem gives a big impact to our games. Try to fix the problem first before we decide to play another games.

Losing a bitcoin in single bet is really an heart breaking event. I never make such a big single bet, maybe because i cant afford to lose that much. But think for a min, if he had won with 1 BTC and doubled it, Wow that would have been great for him. I can only say better luck next time.

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Quote from: Viscore on January 25, 2017, 02:01:33 AM

Quote from: game-protect on January 24, 2017, 07:17:19 PM

Quote from: LLec on January 24, 2017, 02:39:01 PM

They came up with a false accusation that I had 10 different accounts which has no merit in this case because their is substantial way to prove that they were my accounts. As I mentioned to PeepsPlace during that time which was the Christmas/New years holidays I had over 10 other people using the same connection that I was on when I registered for the sportsbet account. The other people here wanted to try their luck too so they all wanted to compete against each other with using this site.
So we were all using wifi connection and that is connected to the same internet connection. So of course they will show up as the same ip address. No kidding! But that is a loophole that they can put in place when ever they want too in order not to have to pay anyone they do not want to with this clause in their shady TOS rules. I just knew they were going to pull a fast one and not pay me out my rightful winnings so I put it all in an attempt to empty out the account so I can close it. And I eventually did and told them I would make sure they do not dupe any one else on the forums to fall for their scamming casino sites (vegascasino.io / bitcasino.io / sportsbet.io all are under the same owner! So avoid all of them. You can confirm this by just connecting to the live chat on each site you will see the same person's name is going to connect to you. Roll Eyes

)and their scamming ways.

Someone with 10 accounts, usually would use a VPN to have different IPs. Therefore, to say 10 same IPs = one account holder is nonsense!

They can also see the operating system of the pc and I am pretty sure that it was not 10 times the same, if different users.

I don't think the IP should be a big issue here, there are people who are just using prepaid connection, hence every time you connect to the internet you will be given a ramdom IP and most likely it will not be the same the as your IP address before. I don't understand what really is the problem here but if everything should be based on the terms and condition of the sportsbet.io.

Exactly!
That should not matter I know.
They are just a bastardized site. That is clear to all here now after all of this has surfaced.
I do not lose sleep at night over any of this.
They will find themselves going under for their operating methods & crooked ways.
I am certain of this. Wink

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I once was betting on bet365.
Since betting is illegal in my country I wasn't sure they'll accept me.
But I tried, and they did accept my money and my bet.
Then I won, but when I wanted to withdraw my winnings they said my account is not verified.
I tried to get it verified but with no success.
So I just keep on betting over and over again until I lost it all.
Since then I always make bet with a little amount and try to withdraw before putting in a lot of cash.

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Quote from: game-protect on January 24, 2017, 07:17:19 PM

Quote from: LLec on January 24, 2017, 02:39:01 PM

They came up with a false accusation that I had 10 different accounts which has no merit in this case because their is substantial way to prove that they were my accounts. As I mentioned to PeepsPlace during that time which was the Christmas/New years holidays I had over 10 other people using the same connection that I was on when I registered for the sportsbet account. The other people here wanted to try their luck too so they all wanted to compete against each other with using this site.
So we were all using wifi connection and that is connected to the same internet connection. So of course they will show up as the same ip address. No kidding! But that is a loophole that they can put in place when ever they want too in order not to have to pay anyone they do not want to with this clause in their shady TOS rules. I just knew they were going to pull a fast one and not pay me out my rightful winnings so I put it all in an attempt to empty out the account so I can close it. And I eventually did and told them I would make sure they do not dupe any one else on the forums to fall for their scamming casino sites (vegascasino.io / bitcasino.io / sportsbet.io all are under the same owner! So avoid all of them. You can confirm this by just connecting to the live chat on each site you will see the same person's name is going to connect to you. Roll Eyes

)and their scamming ways.

Someone with 10 accounts, usually would use a VPN to have different IPs. Therefore, to say 10 same IPs = one account holder is nonsense!

They can also see the operating system of the pc and I am pretty sure that it was not 10 times the same, if different users.

I don't think the IP should be a big issue here, there are people who are just using prepaid connection, hence every time you connect to the internet you will be given a ramdom IP and most likely it will not be the same the as your IP address before. I don't understand what really is the problem here but if everything should be based on the terms and condition of the sportsbet.io.

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Quote from: LLec on January 24, 2017, 02:39:01 PM

They came up with a false accusation that I had 10 different accounts which has no merit in this case because their is substantial way to prove that they were my accounts. As I mentioned to PeepsPlace during that time which was the Christmas/New years holidays I had over 10 other people using the same connection that I was on when I registered for the sportsbet account. The other people here wanted to try their luck too so they all wanted to compete against each other with using this site.
So we were all using wifi connection and that is connected to the same internet connection. So of course they will show up as the same ip address. No kidding! But that is a loophole that they can put in place when ever they want too in order not to have to pay anyone they do not want to with this clause in their shady TOS rules. I just knew they were going to pull a fast one and not pay me out my rightful winnings so I put it all in an attempt to empty out the account so I can close it. And I eventually did and told them I would make sure they do not dupe any one else on the forums to fall for their scamming casino sites (vegascasino.io / bitcasino.io / sportsbet.io all are under the same owner! So avoid all of them. You can confirm this by just connecting to the live chat on each site you will see the same person's name is going to connect to you. Roll Eyes

)and their scamming ways.

Someone with 10 accounts, usually would use a VPN to have different IPs. Therefore, to say 10 same IPs = one account holder is nonsense!

They can also see the operating system of the pc and I am pretty sure that it was not 10 times the same, if different users.

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I am terrible at Fantasy Football!!!

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Quote from: boyptc on January 04, 2017, 12:14:42 AM

Wow that's truly an achievement congratulations to you.

Quote from: LLec on January 03, 2017, 11:57:20 PM

Lost both parlays of one with 1 bitcoin on the line because of the high odds for basketball game at 7.29 so did not expect to win that one.
The other one was for 150mbtc with only one game off by 2 points with a 2 second shot at the end. All other games won and would of had me at 1.25b.
So easy come easy go as they say with gambling for high stakes.
I did start this with 50mbtc anyways. So no big loss for me. Undecided

It seems that this is the update that I've been waiting for and it's very unfortunate to know that you lose and it looks like that you are forced to bet with those games. I guess you will not now use sportsbet.io because of that. Try to sports bet with some other good gambling site.

It seems that they held my funds just for this reason because as their review department that they had my account looked at by them knew that I was into taking high-risk bets from my previous parlays that I have done. And was counting on me putting it all on several parlays.

And to the others who are posting after my update post:
I lost the parlay with 1 bitcoin! So the 3 days of winning is over.
It wasn't so great while it lasted because I wasn't going to see that bitcoin anyways and now that my balance is next to zero they will say it is ok to do withdraws from the account. A little to late for that now isn't it? Roll Eyes

Man, you should have opened a scam accusation against them and stop betting on the site, some websites don't have automatic withdrawals or they don't have automatic withdrawals for new members, it’s obvious that any sport book is in business to make money so by delaying your withdrawal they tempted you to bet again and you lost.

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Quote from: btcdiggingmaster on January 24, 2017, 01:31:30 AM

Really that was amazing better contact support because if you try to play again means you will loose those money also. It's better quit the game and try to withdraw that amount, if you want to play again try with small amounts if possible.

What do you think i did?
Support did nothing for this and just made it worst by delaying and delaying it until I just put it all down so I can just finish with them.
They came up with a false accusation that I had 10 different accounts which has no merit in this case because their is substantial way to prove that they were my accounts. As I mentioned to PeepsPlace during that time which was the Christmas/New years holidays I had over 10 other people using the same connection that I was on when I registered for the sportsbet account. The other people here wanted to try their luck too so they all wanted to compete against each other with using this site.
So we were all using wifi connection and that is connected to the same internet connection. So of course they will show up as the same ip address. No kidding! But that is a loophole that they can put in place when ever they want too in order not to have to pay anyone they do not want to with this clause in their shady TOS rules. I just knew they were going to pull a fast one and not pay me out my rightful winnings so I put it all in an attempt to empty out the account so I can close it. And I eventually did and told them I would make sure they do not dupe any one else on the forums to fall for their scamming casino sites (vegascasino.io / bitcasino.io / sportsbet.io all are under the same owner! So avoid all of them. You can confirm this by just connecting to the live chat on each site you will see the same person's name is going to connect to you. Roll Eyes

)and their scamming ways.

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Quote from: Rating Place on January 23, 2017, 01:53:16 AM

Quote from: LLec on January 23, 2017, 01:20:33 AM

You might want to put Sportsbet.io in a D rated site to place bets on.
They freeze you from making withdraws when they just feel like it or when you have a substantial amount of bitcoins to withdraw.
You can read about it on my thread when i won more than 1 bitcoin in my account and had my withdrawal denied all the sudden when I just did 1 withdrawal previously of 60mbtc with in a time frame of 24 hours prior.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17590963

If that is unethical to do to a participant on a site that they place alot of bets on then I don't know what is.
They also are the same owners of bitcasino.io and several others under the same brand.
All from the same pile.

Thanks for the information. It will definitely be looked into.

Do I have permission to ask sportsbet.io about your account? Books require it before they talk to a 3rd party.

Go ahead. Cause I did everything that they asked for. Submitting my identification on their site to receive payment from what their support told me. I have that archived. But they base it on not knowing that there are several individuals who use the internet connection where I was staying at during that time period I was using their site. It was the freaking holidays for god's sake!
There are 25 people visiting and in the very same house hold. If half of them want to use the same internet connection on their devices then who am I to regulate who goes to which site on the connection?
That is their basis of not allowing me to withdraw within a 24 hour period of the last one that was successfully processed mind you only 60 mbtc and not the 429mbtc that I requested that was denied all the sudden because they saw the same connection come in just a week ago which was Christmas day for fucks sake. I have over 10 cousins and brothers that go on the internet and are wanting to use the same sites as the others use. They are sheep you know that want to go and do what the others are doing to "get into the action" so to speak.
It is wifi and it is secured so they do not have right to come up with excuses such as these that they have given me.
I have since asked them to close the account so I have nothing more to do with them.
If they argue with me on this or do anymore accusations on me with my internet activity using their site I will sue them because they asked me to send in my passport and proof of address which is illegal where I live! These companies do not have the right to give out any confidential information about their players and in closing my account none should be on their system and on their files about me.
You can ask them but all they can tell you is of what happened as I have just told to you right here.
Once closed it should be erased from them and their customer database. Which I highly doubt it either.

PM sent. They have been good in the past in getting back so we should hear from them soon.

Pure bitcoin books should only ask for KYC information in rare circumstances. One reason for using these books is to remain anonymous.

If a book sees 10 accounts from the same IP, they should say something immediately. Don't free roll the player by accepting losses and not paying winners.

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